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addisonnicogel 09-25-2009 07:51 PM

F1 Singapore GP
 
Marina Bay Street Circuit

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Race name: 2009 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix
Track name: Marina Bay Street Circuit
Track length: 5,067 km
Race length: 61 laps = 308,950 km
Lap record: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...inland.svg.png Kimi Räikkönen, Ferrari - 1.45,599 (2008)

Fastest lap in race 2008: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...inland.svg.png Kimi Räikkönen, Ferrari - 1.45,599
Pole position 2008: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Brazil.svg.png Felipe Massa, Ferrari - 1.44,801

Previous Winners
2008 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Spain.svg.png Fernando Alonso, Renault

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Drivers championship (13/17 races *):

1. Jenson Button 80
2. Rubens Barrichello 66
3. Sebastian Vettel 54
4. Mark Webber 51,5
5. Kimi Räikkönen 40
6. Nico Rosberg 30,5
7. Lewis Hamilton 27
8. Jarno Trulli 22,5
9. Felipe Massa 22
10. Heikki Kovalainen 20
11. Fernando Alonso 20
12. Timo Glock 16
13. Nick Heifeld 12
14. Giancarlo Fisichella 8
15. Robert Kubica 8
16. Adrian Sutil 5
17. Sebastien Buemi 3
18. Sebastien Bourdais 2

Constructors championship (13/17 *):

1. Brawn GP 146
2. Red Bull 105,5
3. Ferrari 62
4. McLaren 47
5. Toyota 38,5
6. Williams 30,5
7. BMW 20
8. Renault 20
9. Force India 13
10. Toro Rosso 5

* Malaysian GP gave only half the points

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In the news:
- Renault gets practicly unpunished, unless they do the same again (Piquet incident last year)
- Briatore out of F1 & FIA governed sports - Banned for life
- Symonds out for 5 years
- Ferrari not sure about Kimis future even though he has contract for next season - one rumor came out a while back that it might not have been Ferrari who initiated the uncertainty, but Kimi himself for feeling mistreated in the team

aburva.org 09-25-2009 08:25 PM

Hope RBR do well!

teentodiefows 09-25-2009 08:31 PM

[thumbup] Love your threads CB, was looking for it earlier when posting about practice.

Watching practice was quite interesting, especially when Grosjean pinned it in the exact spot Piquet crashed last year [rofl] Forgot to update the drivers briefings did we Renault? Aside from that the Brawn's were fasest throughout and by gum was that track dusty! A clean line formed not to dissimilar to when they dry out a wet track http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/blink1.gif

Interesting hearing now that Bernie thinks they were too harsh on Flavio [rolleyes] I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that they're co-owners of QPR, and part of their shareholders agreement as I understand it is that if you're banned by any sporting federation then you aren't allowed to own a stake in the club [rofl] Seriously though no, Flavio shouldn't have his ban lifted / reduced, regardless of tha fact Piquet performed the action Flavio was his team boss and his manager, he was the man Piquet should be able to turn to for advice and he went and told him to pin it in the wall? **** off. Also not buying Symmonds account that Piquet suggested it ... that just makes no sense.

Practice 2 up soon, will be interesting to see how they all go, Button was fastest before Barrichello's last run which I assume were on the super-softs? Although not sure ...

apatteopipt 09-25-2009 09:23 PM

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[thumbup] Love your threads CB, was looking for it earlier when posting about practice.

Watching practice was quite interesting, especially when Grosjean pinned it in the exact spot Piquet crashed last year [rofl] Forgot to update the drivers briefings did we Renault? Aside from that the Brawn's were fasest throughout and by gum was that track dusty! A clean line formed not to dissimilar to when they dry out a wet track http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/blink1.gif

Interesting hearing now that Bernie thinks they were too harsh on Flavio [rolleyes] I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that they're co-owners of QPR, and part of their shareholders agreement as I understand it is that if you're banned by any sporting federation then you aren't allowed to own a stake in the club [rofl] Seriously though no, Flavio shouldn't have his ban lifted / reduced, regardless of tha fact Piquet performed the action Flavio was his team boss and his manager, he was the man Piquet should be able to turn to for advice and he went and told him to pin it in the wall? **** off. Also not buying Symmonds account that Piquet suggested it ... that just makes no sense.

Practice 2 up soon, will be interesting to see how they all go, Button was fastest before Barrichello's last run which I assume were on the super-softs? Although not sure ...
There are examples in other sports where people have taken a hit for their team. Like in rugby when players have faked injuries to be substituted. Not saying it's true, just that it might of happened like that.

teentodiefows 09-25-2009 09:41 PM

No doubt, but Piquet was fighting for his drive. It just seems odd to me because as a driver who has qualified only one place behind Alonso so to him it would have been a chance to prove he could actually keep pace with him on track ... the idea that he thought he could prove his worth by offering to crash his car when he's qualified no worse then Alonso is just ... well it just doesn't add up.

However I can comprehend when in that mindset that if someone you trust, and just so happens to control your career, put it to him that if he were to 'accidentally' crash that it may help his chances of retaining his drive he would consider, and obviously did, cooperating. Not trying to exonerate Piquet at all, what he did was unforgivable but it is almost understandable - by this I mean it makes some sort of sense, not that I agree with it. By contrast Symmonds / Flavio's actions are completely reprehensible and I don't buy their accounts at all, it just doesn't add up.

Anyway, Practice 2 is up! I've got to say considering this track is completely enclosed in concrete and chain fences like Valencia, which is gorgeous from the air but hideous from the ****-pit cams or fence cams, it looks beautiful at night.

/edit/ Webber in the wall, looks like the same corner to me though not sure, he was top of the timesheet as well ... oh dear.

Red flagged again, they're losing quite a lot of practice time today http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/wacko1.gif

LesLattis 09-26-2009 12:30 AM

BMW got a hugely upgraded package today... will be interesting to see how they perform in quali/race. Apparently they're supposed to be a full second faster! [shocked]

foonlesse 09-26-2009 01:17 AM

he has to crash there... [rofl]

valiumnopresc 09-26-2009 10:52 PM

Jenson P12... oops. Rubens will still take a 5 place drop but wherever he ends up he is going be starting quite a bit ahead either way.

Red Bulls up there too!

It ain't over till it's over baby! I think i'm actually routing for Rubens!! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/excited1.gif

addisonnicogel 09-26-2009 10:54 PM

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Jenson P12... oops. Rubens will still take a 5 place drop but wherever he ends up he is going be starting quite a bit ahead either way.

Red Bulls up there too!

It ain't over till it's over baby! I think i'm actually routing for Rubens!! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/excited1.gif
Ferrari obviously not working on this track at all.

But Rubens needs to get 6th or higher in P3 to start in front of Jenson

valiumnopresc 09-26-2009 11:00 PM

Rubens in the wall! Session red flagged!

Lewis on pole [thumbup]

Sxscdergh 09-27-2009 03:42 AM

Boy, I was really looking forward to that last lap in Q3...oh well... SPEED tv was in such a hurry to cover another event, that we didn't even get to see a replay of what happened to Barrichello. [thumbdown]

Here are the pre-race weights:


1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 660.5kg
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 651
3. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 657.5
4. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 654.5
5. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 658
6. Timo Glock, Toyota, 660.5
7. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 650
8. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 664
9. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 664.5
10. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 655.5
11. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 680.7
12. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 683
13. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 680.5
14. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 678
15. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 690.9
16. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 693
17. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 683.5
18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari, 678.5
19. Romain Grosjean, Renault, 683
20. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 656

grattperret 09-27-2009 05:29 AM

Indeed, I had a feeling that Rosberg would have snatched that somehow, especially considering his stunning Q2 lap.

Still Hamilton surely has to be favourite for the win, especially with that fuel load.

aburva.org 09-27-2009 06:22 PM

Go RBR! 1-2 finish FTW and get this championship REALLY started[thumbup]

swwatch 09-27-2009 10:05 PM

Good drive from Glock there. Button was quick when he needed to be too which has made things look decidedly better.

jamisi 09-27-2009 10:06 PM

Yay for the Ham. Yay for the But finishing in front of the Bar. Yay for the Hak acknowledging the camera. [thumbup]

Boo for my TV picture going wonky on the LAST LAP. [cursing]

Rugda 09-27-2009 10:09 PM

Brawn were certainly helped by the retirement of other cars though - only 14 cars actually finished. Still, you don't win championships with your car in the garage.

Good race for Glock!

valiumnopresc 09-27-2009 10:26 PM

It's pretty much Buttons destiny to win, hell... he could turn up to race in a wheelie bin for the last three races, and his rivals would still find a way not to take enough points off him.

But yeah, nice drive from Lewis, Timo and co!

swwatch 09-27-2009 10:30 PM

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It's pretty much Buttons destiny to win, hell... he could turn up to race in a wheelie bin for the last three races, and his rivals would still find a way not to take enough points off him.

But yeah, nice drive from Lewis, Timo and co!
Yeah i think Buttons usually doing well in the races, without problems. Meaning he's still getting lot's of points finishes, where as his rivals are hitting problems or making them for themselves. Even so i think Buttons driven well to get ahead of Barrichello. If the season goes to the end in the same way, it'll seem a bit like Buttons limped over the line, but no more than anyone else really.

addisonnicogel 09-27-2009 10:40 PM

Unusprisingly boring race, shame everyone who could have challenged Lewis on track got penalties for speeding/going over white lines etc, could have added some action

swwatch 09-27-2009 10:53 PM

Nice to see Jacques and Mika on the forum :). If Villeneuve returns that'll be awesome [thumbup]


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