[fudelholf]

If anyone serious about getting a kick ass phone

HTC Pro coming in August


http://www.htc.com/www/product_galle...?FolderID=4910

Specs:
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 288MB
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with VGA resolution(640x480)
Device Control TouchFLO™ 3D
Touch-sensitive navigation control Keyboard Slide-out 5-row QWERTY keyboard GPS GPS and A-GPS ready

Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0 with EDR
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g

HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0, audio jack, and TV Out* in one)
Camera Main camera: 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus and flash light
Second camera: VGA CMOS color camera

Audio Built-in microphone, speaker and FM radio with RDS
Ring tone supported formats:

• MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
• 40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1 (SMF)/SP MIDI

Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion or Lithium-ion polymer battery
Capacity: 1340 mAh

Talk time:

• Up to 378 minutes for WCDMA
• Up to 419 minutes for GSM

Standby time:

• Up to 462 hours for WCDMA
• Up to 367 hours for GSM

Video call time: Up to 189 minutes for WCDMA
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)

Now this is what I call a smart phone

Not really:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/20937...h-diamond.html

[Ufkkrxcq]

my uncle has one of those htc diamonds. he's got an iphone too. what a ****.

[Gcromqgb]

Not really:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/20937...h-diamond.html

Wow that is a pretty brutal review.

[BritneySpearsFun@@@]

I survived not getting the first iPhone, although I really wanted one. I could probably even survive not getting this 2nd gen iPhone, but I'm doubting I will.

I almost never wait in line for a product, and I never buy something just because its the the in thing to do. I only spend money on things I need and things I really want and feel I will get some use out of. That and I always look for value. The iPhone has been a delima for me since its inception, the fact that it doesn't do video, mms, or support flash really bothers me.

The phone I have now doesn't either, but if I'm gonna spend an extar $30 a month, actually $60, because if I get one so is my wife, I wan't those features.

[Nosmas]

Are you kidding me?

I find it hard to believe that quite so many would buy something like this for such a reason.

For UI, features, size, usage - it really is the best thing on the market at the minute!

I never thought I would want an iphone... I've always like simple, small phones that just make calls (Nokia 8310i and 8910i were my two favourite phones)... forget camera/extra features.

Then I got an ipod touch & realised how much I liked that - so carrying around that + my phone added to it... to have the ipod touch + phone + gps + 3g all in one device is absoutely brilliant! I can't wait until mine arrives.

I didn't say everybody, but most people who buy this phone are exactly what I described they are.

[Nosmas]

Not really:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/20937...h-diamond.html

Wow...may be they would fix those flaws in the pro one, but if it is like that I am keeping my HTC mogul

[Gcromqgb]

I didn't say everybody, but most people who buy this phone are exactly what I described they are.

That is a blanket statement if I have seen one.

Could it be possible that it's so popular because it is extremely intuitive and easy to use with its broad spectrum of features by everyone who uses/tries one?

No, couldn't be... I as well as everyone I know with one is trying so desperately hard to be "hip".

[GypeFeeshyTes]

Wow...may be they would fix those flaws in the pro one, but if it is like that I am keeping my HTC mogul

It's a bit deceiving to list all of the features of WinMo devices, because when you look at them in list form, on paper it blows the iphone out of the water. That is, until you actually use it. I've owned 4 WinMo devices before, with the latest one having version 6 as the OS, as well as used the HTC Touch. The problem lies in the fact that these "smart phones" are essentially PDAs with phone functionality. Constant freezes while being on the phone were just one of nagging problems, while others involved absolutely atrocious performance with a lot of apps installed.

Forget browsing the internet on one of these phones, because even when browsing in 3G the phone always seem like it is playing catch up. Pulling out a stylus virtually eliminates the "one handed use" I consistently use when iphone, not to mention that even the "improved" opera browser is still infuriating to navigate with. If there's a paragraph of text I wish to enlarge on the iphone, I simply double tap the screen and the text is now perfectly formatted and zoomed as if it were magic. There are no "font size" or "zoom" options, because they are pointless and arbitrary. I'll even venture to say that with a good Edge signal, the speed of my 1st Gen Iphone was not too far behind my 8525 when it had a 3G signal, due to the Safari browser and iphone performance being so much better.

To be honest, I don't really mind the incessant bashing my phone gets, because before I owned one, I was purchasing a new phone just about every 6 months. I too defended my WinMo devices, even though they had horrible performance and were bulky as hell to carry. "I like Windows," I would say, and enjoyed the flexibility of having a plethora of downloads at my disposal. However, once I got used to the seemless, near perfect interface, lack of freezes, ease of use, and what is probably one of the best MP3 players around (all packed into the phone), I couldn't go back. Then I bought the 3G iphone and downloaded version 2.0, and laughed as I realized I'll never own another phone again (that is, until the Iphone 3 is released).

[HootSnori]

Can't stand the iPhone, will stick with my HTC Touch Diamond, best phone yet, it does more than the iPhone ever can and in a much smaller package and twice the screen pixels for crisp text and images

[TepSteade]

Just out of curiosity, whats the software expandability like? As in can you go online and find some nice freeware or do you have to use Apple approved software?

[Gcromqgb]

Can't stand the iPhone, will stick with my HTC Touch Diamond, best phone yet, it does more than the iPhone ever can and in a much smaller package and twice the screen pixels for crisp text and images

Apparently at half the speed too.

The Diamond is far from perfect though, and the iPhone still has it beat in some important areas. Like we noted, we’ll reserve our reception judgment until a proper US model comes out. While TouchFLO 3D is nearly perfect, the lag when navigating the Windows environment needs to be addressed. HTC falls well short on their music player too, which is the iPhone’s strength. Until a product is built from the ground up to compete with the iPhone there is little chance that it will succeed in doing so. The Diamond will be wildly successful, most likely surpassing the Touch’s 2M units sold, but in the end it is still in a different class than Apple’s offering.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-..._1956-p_6.html

However if you look beyond the too many iPhone rip-off features of the HTC Touch Diamond, this looks like one promising device. If they are able to go beyond the issues such as the scroll wheel not responding or sluggish performance, it may even surpass the iPhone.
http://www.cellphone-reviews.co.uk/2...nd-review.html

This is a consumer smartphone that packs more specs, and if HTC can sort out the lag issue, more punch than the iPhone in all areas. The only thing it appears to be lagging is the audio and video prowess of Apple's smartphone.

If you aren't fussed about multimedia and just want to stay connected on the go, this is certainly one to watch.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/reviews...rst-look.phtml

Sluggish performance was one of my biggest issues with my Windows Mobile devices.

[GypeFeeshyTes]

Apparently at half the speed too.



Sluggish performance was one of my biggest issues with my Windows Mobile devices.

Ultimately, what good is it to have so many features in a phone if the damn thing slows down to a crawl when using them? I think the biggest problem with iphone haters is their lack of actually using one for any length of time. Performing registry edits and "speed tweaks" is something that should not exist for a phone. Period.

[BritneySpearsFun@@@]

Well, good things come to those who wait....... in line!

After perusing the app store, I went down to AT&T ready to get two 3G iPhones. All gone!

They told me I could order them, but they didn't know how long it would take. I paused and said thanks, but I'll wait.

Now I have more time to contemplate in my indecisiveness.

[GypeFeeshyTes]

I sure did

When I got to the Apple store in my area at 7pm yesterday, there were 3 people in line. We then proceeded to drink about 10 beers at the bar in the mall, and from then on we camped outside. There were only about 30 people up until about 3am, and the line steadily grew from there to well over 200. We were the first group to get in, but my dreams were almost shattered when they realized I had a business discount on my plan, which would only let me purchase the phone from an actual AT&T store. I quickly called customer support, they canceled my discount (of which I will have to reinstate), and I breathed a sigh of relief as they finally sold me the phone.

Needless to say, the phone kicks ass

[BritneySpearsFun@@@]

Right now it looks like they are having problems with activating the phones in store. It will be interesting how this plays out with so many people in line.

http://twitlive.tv/

[zibTefapparia]

You had an iPhone before, right? Is it really worth an upgrade? 3G would be great, but there is no 3G service in my area, only EDGE . Any other reason to upgrade? I really can't see any. I have a 16GB iPhone right now.

[JOR4qxYH]

The added GPS is a nice new feature for sure [thumbup]

I can't believe people were so desperate to get it that they would queue outside a store all night though... I'll just get it when I get it lol

[GypeFeeshyTes]

You had an iPhone before, right? Is it really worth an upgrade? 3G would be great, but there is no 3G service in my area, only EDGE . Any other reason to upgrade? I really can't see any. I have a 16GB iPhone right now.

Well, my brother just sold his iphone yesterday on ebay (4GB), and he got over $300 for it. He actually upgraded to a 3G 8GB iphone, and managed to have it completely paid for plus extra for a new headset. At $199, it's almost foolish NOT to get it since you can sell your old phone.

EDIT: The GPS is a very nice added feature, plus little upgrades such as better speakers, a slightly rounder design, a flush headphone jack, and a sleaker back case all are nice bonuses. Even if you don't have 3G, I guarantee this phone will make AT&T expand their network. The only downside is the more expensive plan ($15 extra I believe).

[DumbNelmcrece]

The added GPS is a nice new feature for sure [thumbup]

I can't believe people were so desperate to get it that they would queue outside a store all night though... I'll just get it when I get it lol

It will be a frosty day in hell before I pull a allnighter in a line waiting for a apple product. I had a chuckle tho reading the thread title

[Gcromqgb]

I didn't wait in line for the first one and decided not to on this one as well. I much prefer waiting a few days then walking in and out.

Also, I have been hearing those that waited in line to be the first with the new iPhone now have to wait longer after their purchase because Apple servers are highly overloaded.

Why they didn't officially release firmware 2.0 a day or two early for the origional iPhone to alleviate some of the load on their brand new product launch day is completely beyond me. Not so hot start for the new one and definitely leaves a bad taste in the mouths of 1st gen owners. I know this will be all over the news.