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Old 06-16-2007, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default The square root of (-1) is......... the penis?
By the way, the post-modernist generator is now available here.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:40 PM   #2
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I'm going to guess it makes vague references about some kind of "Indian civilization" and quite possibly knocks Islam all in a pseudo-filosofical syntax.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:53 PM   #3
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
I'm going to guess it makes vague references about some kind of "Indian civilization" and quite possibly knocks Islam all in a pseudo-filosofical syntax. Not this time.
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:25 PM   #4
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Originally posted by Heresson
No-one's going to read something so long. I just did. It's enlightening.
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:49 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Heresson
No-one's going to read something so long. Was fun to read!
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Old 06-16-2007, 05:11 PM   #6
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That was interesting (and a little frightening). Thanks, aneeshm.
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Old 06-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #7
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The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. . . From this perspective it is no wonder that science has not been able to arrive at a successful model for turbulence. The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders.

/me cries
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:06 PM   #8
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Since philosophy itself is a vast subject, despite its decline in respectability there are still countless new concepts which can be thought of, and analysed in introduction or in depth in new books.
However i agree that it is most common to find modern philosophers who are niehter capable of, nor appreciating of, simplicity of words and economy with the use of so-called "key-terms".
So many philosophical works are full of such "key terms", which by themselves acquire supposedly a new, more profound meaning, but which in reality were never needed in the first place. Language by itself has its own dynamics, and frequently those philosophical works become unreadable, bizarre, borring enigmata.

There is a nice saying attributed to a mathematician: "the proof that one has understood perfectly a theory is that he is able to explain it with simple words to the first person he happens to meet on the street".
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:40 PM   #9
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Says the man quoting Baudrillard.
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:11 PM   #10
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So basically you're saying that in philosophy, the truth value of something is determined by how many people said it was true, and in what way, and by what books they wrote about it.

Do I need to say anything more?
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:24 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Aivo½so


I'm not sure where I said that

Where analytic philosophy tends to treat philosophy in terms of discrete problems, capable of being analyzed apart from their historical origins (much as scientists consider the history of science inessential to scientific inquiry), continental philosophy typically suggests that "philosophical argument cannot be divorced from the textual and contextual conditions of its historical emergence".[6]
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:39 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Aivo½so
Here's where the communication gap between the American scientist and PoMo lies:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_philosophy Scientism:

Continental philosophy is almost entirely full of sh*t. It all went downhill the day they started bastardizing Kant.

Second, continental philosophy usually considers these conditions of possible experience as variable: determined at least partly by factors such as context, space and time, language, culture, or history. Thus continental philosophy tends toward historicism. Karl Popper showed Historicism to be BS.
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:08 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Aivo½so
OK, so "philosophical argument cannot be divorced from the textual and contextual conditions of its historical emergence" = "the truth value of something is determined by how many people said it". IPCC
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:50 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Odin
Postmodernists are a f*cking joke. They spew meaningless verbage and call it philosophy. It's these morons that have given philosophy a bad name and created the stereotypes people like Asher use to bash philosophy.

f*ck them. I hate old philosophers too.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:51 PM   #15
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I've heard that in France, you can get a degree in psychology just by learning about Lacanian psychoanalysis, and presumably, its 'applications'.
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:48 PM   #16
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TLDR, but why'd he bother attacking PoMo in his atheist hissy-fit book? PoMos oppose all forms of purported objective truth that don't involve talk about penises and colonialism. That presumably includes all concepts of God not covered by liberation theology (which AFAIK is Marxism with Jesus tacked on).

EDIT: I am, however, pleased to see Aneeshm posting something that does not directly relate to Islam being evil, the other Abrahamic faiths being silly, or India being the greatest country on earth. Kudos, Aneeshm. Just quote shorter blocks or summarize next time.
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:07 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Odin
Postmodernists are a f*cking joke. They spew meaningless verbage and call it philosophy. It's these morons that have given philosophy a bad name and created the stereotypes people like Asher use to bash philosophy.

f*ck them. Thank you for the vote of confidence, good sir!
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:39 PM   #18
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A physicist could explain quantum physics, up to a certain point, by using simple words that anybody can understand.

Not in any meaningful way.
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