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Sorry, but I've never really bothered reading about any of this RIAA crap, I just get music how I like wether thats via itunes, napster (both legal) Cds semi legal or just plain theft (bittorrent / newsgroups).
While I don't like the sound of the above, just how much power does the RIAA have? I mean, i've just done a quick google and it appears they're american based. So can I quite easily give them the finger considering I'm in the mighty blighty? |
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I purchase a lot of CD's legitimately from stores, but Im not going to lie, I cant afford to buy all the music Im interested in listening to so I acquire just as much from non legitimate sources.
But I dont give a crap because I spend hundreds, if not thousands on going to see bands live, that way I know my money is going to where it should be - the artist. |
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Not doing so hot? They're making more money now than ever before. |
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I do have some sympathy for the artists and companies that are losing revenue for the work they have done in writing, producing and distributing their music. If you are a fan, you should be supporting them, not just making copies without recompense.
HOWEVER, the Gastapo tactics they're using are totally counterproductive, IMO. All they're going to do is scare a very few into being 'good' but pissing off a lot more in the process. I buy CDs and also get music at LANs - the stuff from the LANs is generally stuff I'd never buy anyway, so is it a loss? Much of it I can't buy anyway as it just isn't available new. I don't know about the majority of you but, TBH, there isn't that much modern music that really appeals to me that much - is this some of the "loss in revenue" that the RIAA is complaining about? IMO, there should be a method of making a donation to the artist for their work that is safe - without fear of getting your door knocked down by the RIAA - so the more 'honest' people can show their support. It would also help if the industry would produce music worth buyg. What I would like to see is an artist, who has released their work to the public domain, sue the RIAA for illegally seizing royalties. Actually, the legality of seizing money for a party without the party authorising it should certainly be illegal. It also begs the question of older music, such as the classics or blues, when the copyrights have long expired. As for terrorists bombing them - it'll never happen - professional courtesy! |
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Holy crap are these Nazi's or what? [cursing]
There has been an understandable public outcry against the RIAA’s attempts to more than triple the sound recording copyright royalties on Internet radio. (See Save Internet Radio from Corporate Money Grab) One solution proposed by Webcasters is to just not play RIAA-member songs under the assumption that then they don’t have to pay the royalty to the RIAA’s collection body, SoundExchange; Webcasters would then just pay the independent artist the royalty. This sounds fair and just because it is. However, the RIAA is not about being fair and just. The game is rigged and the RIAA has rigged it in their favor. The strategy of playing only non-RIAA songs won't work though because the RIAA has secured the right to collect royalties on all songs regardless of who controls the copyright. RIAA operates under the assumption that they will collect the royalties for the "sound recording copyright" and that the artists who own their own copyright will go to SoundExchange to collect at a later date. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=223093 |
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I think I should probably point out things aren't quite what they seem.
Basically, if you are an internet radio station, you have to pay to play other peoples music. Now this means signing up with a company like SoundExchange. Before, lets say you wanted to play a U2 song and some indie song, well you would have to pay royalties to SoundExchange (assuming U2 are part of SoundExchange) and also pay the organisation that collected royalties for the indie band. But now you just have to pay the royalties to SoundExchange. Then if a band/music company isn't part of SoundExchange, they will have to sign up to them to collect the royalties. However, if you don't want to play any RIAA songs, then you don't have to sign up to SoundExchange. Just sign up to the organisations who deal with the non-RIAA bands you do want to play. Of course this is still bad for the music industry. |
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Holy crap are these Nazi's or what? [cursing] Now its time to guarantee revenue by other means (rather than learn how to adapt to a digital world.) Look at the Drm in Vista designed to help retain the old revenue models. The laws being quietly passed and dollars quietly exchanged. Tech and media companies sueing each other left and right....the attempts to kill net neutrality, the upcoming forced switch to all digital in the US. (plugging the "analog hole") http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/04/tech...altv/index.htm The list is endless. Wake up now, or look around one day find some executive claiming with a straight face that you have to pay just to whistle a tune. One of them (Jamie keller) has already pretty much said that going to the bathroom during commercials is theft of service No I am not kiding: http://www.teevee.org/archive/2002/05/27/ |
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