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Old 01-05-2007, 07:26 AM   #1
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Sorry, but I've never really bothered reading about any of this RIAA crap, I just get music how I like wether thats via itunes, napster (both legal) Cds semi legal or just plain theft (bittorrent / newsgroups).

While I don't like the sound of the above, just how much power does the RIAA have? I mean, i've just done a quick google and it appears they're american based.

So can I quite easily give them the finger considering I'm in the mighty blighty?
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:22 AM   #2
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I purchase a lot of CD's legitimately from stores, but Im not going to lie, I cant afford to buy all the music Im interested in listening to so I acquire just as much from non legitimate sources.

But I dont give a crap because I spend hundreds, if not thousands on going to see bands live, that way I know my money is going to where it should be - the artist.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:57 AM   #3
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It's the same old same old. The movie and record companies are not doing so hot in the era of file sharing. They have tried everything to lock down piracy......and failed.
Not doing so hot? They're making more money now than ever before.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:51 PM   #4
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Not doing so hot? They're making more money now than ever before.
Really? http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...n-trouble.html
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:47 AM   #5
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RIAA has no authority outside the borders of US of A, so we FMers in the rest of the world can go on just like before.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:45 AM   #6
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Dear Ms Torrent,

I love you.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:27 PM   #7
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I do have some sympathy for the artists and companies that are losing revenue for the work they have done in writing, producing and distributing their music. If you are a fan, you should be supporting them, not just making copies without recompense.

HOWEVER, the Gastapo tactics they're using are totally counterproductive, IMO. All they're going to do is scare a very few into being 'good' but pissing off a lot more in the process. I buy CDs and also get music at LANs - the stuff from the LANs is generally stuff I'd never buy anyway, so is it a loss? Much of it I can't buy anyway as it just isn't available new.
I don't know about the majority of you but, TBH, there isn't that much modern music that really appeals to me that much - is this some of the "loss in revenue" that the RIAA is complaining about?

IMO, there should be a method of making a donation to the artist for their work that is safe - without fear of getting your door knocked down by the RIAA - so the more 'honest' people can show their support. It would also help if the industry would produce music worth buyg.

What I would like to see is an artist, who has released their work to the public domain, sue the RIAA for illegally seizing royalties. Actually, the legality of seizing money for a party without the party authorising it should certainly be illegal. It also begs the question of older music, such as the classics or blues, when the copyrights have long expired.

As for terrorists bombing them - it'll never happen - professional courtesy!
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:33 AM   #8
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Default RIAA claims ownership of all music in the world - even music they don't own!
Holy crap are these Nazi's or what? [cursing]

There has been an understandable public outcry against the RIAA’s attempts to more than triple the sound recording copyright royalties on Internet radio. (See Save Internet Radio from Corporate Money Grab) One solution proposed by Webcasters is to just not play RIAA-member songs under the assumption that then they don’t have to pay the royalty to the RIAA’s collection body, SoundExchange; Webcasters would then just pay the independent artist the royalty.

This sounds fair and just because it is. However, the RIAA is not about being fair and just. The game is rigged and the RIAA has rigged it in their favor. The strategy of playing only non-RIAA songs won't work though because the RIAA has secured the right to collect royalties on all songs regardless of who controls the copyright. RIAA operates under the assumption that they will collect the royalties for the "sound recording copyright" and that the artists who own their own copyright will go to SoundExchange to collect at a later date. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=223093
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:42 AM   #9
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The RIAA can ... well... just use your imagination.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:43 AM   #10
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Wow, just wow. Wouldn't one company collecting all the royalties be a monopoly, too?
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:50 AM   #11
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Why don't the terrorists bomb them instead?
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:55 AM   #12
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Why don't the terrorists bomb them instead?
That would seriously harm their reputation. Its hard to strike fear into the hearts of people when they're cheering for you.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:04 AM   #13
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Wow... any last shred of validity (for thier claims) has just gone out the window. Who the hell are they to say artists do, when they have no control over them. Somebody needs to hurry up and shut these morons down - this is getting stupid...
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:18 AM   #14
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Stuff like this just makes you want to go out and buy hardware dedicated to file sharing - merely to annoy these people.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:01 AM   #15
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Stuff like this just makes you want to go out and buy hardware dedicated to file sharing - merely to annoy these people.
Can I have an IP?

Seriouslt tho, I'm not really understanding this. Care to explain in stupid? (It's late and I'm shagged, just started a 8hr night shift )
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:14 AM   #16
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I think I should probably point out things aren't quite what they seem.

Basically, if you are an internet radio station, you have to pay to play other peoples music. Now this means signing up with a company like SoundExchange. Before, lets say you wanted to play a U2 song and some indie song, well you would have to pay royalties to SoundExchange (assuming U2 are part of SoundExchange) and also pay the organisation that collected royalties for the indie band.

But now you just have to pay the royalties to SoundExchange. Then if a band/music company isn't part of SoundExchange, they will have to sign up to them to collect the royalties.

However, if you don't want to play any RIAA songs, then you don't have to sign up to SoundExchange. Just sign up to the organisations who deal with the non-RIAA bands you do want to play.

Of course this is still bad for the music industry.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:32 AM   #17
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Holy crap are these Nazi's or what? [cursing]



http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=223093
It's the same old same old. The movie and record companies are not doing so hot in the era of file sharing. They have tried everything to lock down piracy......and failed.

Now its time to guarantee revenue by other means (rather than learn how to adapt to a digital world.)

Look at the Drm in Vista designed to help retain the old revenue models. The laws being quietly passed and dollars quietly exchanged. Tech and media companies sueing each other left and right....the attempts to kill net neutrality, the upcoming forced switch to all digital in the US. (plugging the "analog hole")

http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/04/tech...altv/index.htm

The list is endless.

Wake up now, or look around one day find some executive claiming with a straight face that you have to pay just to whistle a tune.

One of them (Jamie keller) has already pretty much said that going to the bathroom during commercials is theft of service

No I am not kiding:

http://www.teevee.org/archive/2002/05/27/
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