[Flerdourdyged]

I posted this on the Busa boards. I just wanted to post it here as a reminder to ALWAYS take you time and do things the right way. Don't rush and for god sake check to see if the old oil filter seal is still stuck on the engine....[no]

BTW any opinions on whether or not I could have damaged the engine? It was running 20 maybe 30 seconds tops before it got cut back off. The oil light never came on, so I can only assume it was getting SOME oil. Just would like to hear some opinions because I won't be able to sleep till I get this thing back running and see for myself.

Well first let me say, im not blaming ANYBODY this was MY fault no one else's. So heres the story...

After following the advise of other members in my fairing thread. I decided instead of taking the fairing all the way off I would just get the bottom part undone so I can half way get to the oil filer. Much easier right? Sure seemed that way and it probably is. But hears the thing, After getting the old oil filter off, I got the new oil filter on. Pretty easy so far right? I tightened it down with the oil filter wrench to what seemed pretty tight. I thought that seems pretty tight, now to put in the oil...

I put in 3.5 quarts of oil tighten the oil cap back down and begin to start it up. I hit the button it starts right up, the low oil light went off after a second or two, all seemed right in the world...

CLINK! ZIPP! Wait what was that? I listened, about 5 seconds later, CLINK, CLINK, WHINE!!! I look down and there is about 3.5 quarts of oil pouring out of this thing at the filter. Bam, I shut the engine down. What have I done!?? I thought. What happened?

Well, to be honest im not 100% on this yet because I still can't get the fairing off. But I think I must not have got the oil filter quite as tight as what I thought I did. You see, I was tightening the filter with the wrench through that little hole in the fairing. I could never get that good of a grip on it. But it seemed tight. It seemed all good. Obviously it wasn't all good. It was far from all good. Its possible that I could have unknowingly ruptured some kind of line? But I don't even know if such a line exists to rupture near that area.

I don't think I damaged my engine. The low oil light never came on and the engine wasn't running very long at all. Any opinions on this? Could I have damaged the engine?

I chalk it all up to laziness on my part. If I wasn't in such a hurry and would have done it the "right" way everything would have been just fine. For now on the fairing is coming completely off when I change the oil. But I think I will be letting the dealer handle it next time.

Its going to be mostly sunny and 65 here tomorrow. I was supposed to be meeting up with people at 10am for a ride. Obviously because of my incompetence that is no longer feasible.

LESSON LEARNED. Here is what happened. The old seal from the old oil filter was still on the engine when I took it off. I didn't see it because of the fairing. I was in a hurry, I didn't think about looking on the old filter to see if the seal was still there. Now im just hoping a peace of the seal didn't get sucked into the engine.

Edit: Success! Both rings are there in their entirety! So hopefully no damage was done.

The seal

[HotboTgameR]

just refill and make sure its tight, and fire it up, and see what if any noises are heard ( im a bike tech by training

[Flerdourdyged]

just refill and make sure its tight, and fire it up, and see what if any noises are heard ( im a bike tech by training

In your professional opinion do you think any damage was done? 9am can't get here soon enough. At 8:30 I am off to cycle gear for more oil sleep or no sleep.

[spamkillerf]

I sincerely doubt you did any damage.

[xADMlNx]

If the seal on the filter was broken then there was no oil pressure which is pretty vital.

However you shut the engine down yourself quickly so i dont think you will have done anything too bad, only way to tell will be to do the job the right way and fire it up again, gl

[Karlmarks]

You should be fine, you were only idling it and there is a resilient oil film on the bearings/journals which should have protected the components.
I've known a number of instances where cars have been driven for longer with no filters on them (our lube guy was a bit forgetful) without problems.

Something else that people should check is the position of the oil seal - some filters will spin on but not seal properly, such as when they've been mis-packaged or the store has mixed them up. Sometimes they misread the part number - had this happen.

[rostpribru]

WATERCOOLED >?

Because if it wasnt u'd be fooked !


should be allright, just crank it over manually withou it starting to get some oil back to the head

there should have been enogh residual in the components to lubricate it enough without damaging the engine for 30 seconds or so.

it didnt make a horrible grindy noise and then stop all by its self did it ?

[Kilsimpaile]

you should be fine. I have crushed a oil sump in a an old Ford bomb I had. That lasted a little bit before the lack of oil pretty much made everything smoke and stop turning over. [rofl]

[PerfectCreditForYou]

that will be fine m8 if it was running only as long as you say

[Nigeopire]

Don't worry at all. No damage done.

Now if you had an engine that had never had any oil (actually dry) in it and you did that...different story.

However all parts were covered in a layer of oil before the change...then got doused again by pouring in the new oil...then were only ran for a less than a minute with zero stress on the engine...and when the oil came out, you noticed it anyway.

No problems...at all....except your ego and mess to clean up.

*edit* the only thing that worries me is the noise..what the heck is the noise from. The oil issue shouldn't be a problem...but what caused the noise?

[Flerdourdyged]

Not sure about the noise but I got the new oil in. Crunk it up today and it was all good. I rode about 200 miles. The engine didn't seem any different it certainly didn't lose any power. A friend of mine has the 2008 Busa as well. I switched bikes with him and neither of us could tell any real difference between the two engines.

So I guess I was all worried and up set for nothing. Its all good![thumbup]

[bensabath]

How come you were doing an oil change so soon? wouldnt it have been best to get a dealer to do it to keep the service history up for your warranty? sorry for the stupid questions, just curious

[Nigeopire]

How come you were doing an oil change so soon? wouldnt it have been best to get a dealer to do it to keep the service history up for your warranty? sorry for the stupid questions, just curious

In the US you can do your own service and still have warranty service (required by law). You should however use a log book or other method of tracking, plus save receipts.

[bensabath]

In the US you can do your own service and still have warranty service (required by law). You should however use a log book or other method of tracking, plus save receipts.

Ah cool, didnt know you guys could do that. Ignore me [thumbup]

[AnriXuinriZ]

In the US you can do your own service and still have warranty service (required by law). You should however use a log book or other method of tracking, plus save receipts.

Thank god for Holland , no log boek needed at all...
and i really like to do these "simple" things myself