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Old 08-22-2012, 04:34 AM   #21
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I wanna see someone find a humanoid fossil and a dinosaur fossil in the same geological strata.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:02 AM   #22
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Most atheists will never accept 6day creationism, not even if we could find proof of it somehow. Like a creationist will never accept evolutionism, not even if we would find proof of it somehow. The reason is that it's not a simple scientific opinion we have, but it is because our view and our way of life depends on it.

Of course it's not as black/white as I depict it above, but it's not far from it either.
ITYM

creationist will never accept evolutionism, even though it has already passed every test we've ever thrown at it and is as well tested and proven as any other mainstream scientific theory

There is a great comic, it might be an XKCD (I couldn't find it on google, maybe some one else could help)

Physicist is watching a biologist on TV saying "We understand Evolution as much as we understand Gravity"

And the Physicist is flabbergasted - "Is he saying we don't understand Evolution?!"

The main problem with this discussion is that people don't understand what is meant by a scientific theory and what is meant by proof.

We already have enough evidence that literal 6 day creationism can't be true. We don't know everything, but we have conclusively proven that that model doesn't reflect the universe we observe.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #23
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The simple thing is :

You don't have to know everything about your current best theory to be able to disprove another theory.

We absolutely can conclusively disprove 6 day creationism.
We can't disprove that the big bang was instigated by a 'God' who created the rules of the universe in order to eventually create humanity on earth. And I know that is the kind of creationism many Christians do believe.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:48 PM   #24
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We absolutely can conclusively disprove 6 day creationism.
The versions that rely on an omnipotent God to make things look the way they look are impossible to disprove. (However they aren't convincing at all either.)
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:03 PM   #25
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And if they find it, would you be convinced, or would you just try to find an excuse?

The bottom line is of course that we do not believe/follow what we are convinced of by ratio, but we believe/follow what we want to believe.
The human being isn't rational at all. Our brains aren't evolved/created to be rational, they are just only to survive.

Most atheists will never accept 6day creationism, not even if we could find proof of it somehow. Like a creationist will never accept evolutionism, not even if we would find proof of it somehow. The reason is that it's not a simple scientific opinion we have, but it is because our view and our way of life depends on it.

Of course it's not as black/white as I depict it above, but it's not far from it either.
I'm a Christian who does not accept intelligent design - not an atheist.

And I'm so confident in evolution, that I made a deal with Ben - I will accept intelligent design when someone finds a humanoid fossil in the same geological strata with a dinosaur fossil.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:00 PM   #26
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I did answer your question. I said I will accept creationism/intelligent design if they find a humanoid fossil and a dinosaur fossil in the same geological strata.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:16 PM   #27
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you did, I stand corrected.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:20 PM   #28
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Again, Bird fossils are contemporary with humanoid fossils.




Courtesy wiki
Right, which is why I should have clarified non-bird dinosaurs.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:24 PM   #29
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The versions that rely on an omnipotent God to make things look the way they look are impossible to disprove. (However they aren't convincing at all either.)
An omnipotent God is the best explaination for existence.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:57 PM   #30
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Indisputable evidence that man evolved from a monkey like primate. Pix of how we looked only 2000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:26 AM   #31
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Indisputable evidence that man evolved from a monkey like primate. Pix of how we looked only 2000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
Augh. That makes my heart sink. I hope it can be restored, and I really feel for the lady.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #32
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Indisputable evidence that man evolved from a monkey like primate. Pix of how we looked only 2000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
Monchichi Jesus
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:47 PM   #33
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Masturbating monkeys are easy prey. Plus the hair on the palms makes gripping awkward. Evolutionary disadvantage.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:06 PM   #34
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math quiz
a lot of monkey are jerking each other
they use both hands and feet-hands
every monkey jerks another
no monkey jerks himself
no monkey jerks the monkey jerking him
how much monkey semen does the average calgary flames fan swallow in a day?
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:44 AM   #35
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Sometimes "because" is the answer to "why?"
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