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Old 07-28-2012, 03:11 PM   #1
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Default I've come to a conclusion that I'm against gay marriage.
Polygamy should be legal, too.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:20 PM   #2
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I would say at least 2 of the "privileges" you mention are actually rights ...
that is, that the partner is included in the default inheritance order and that he gets hospital visitation rights.

The only thing mentioned by you that one might see as a privilege (IMHO) is the tax reduction
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:22 PM   #3
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I would say at least 2 of the "privileges" you mention are actually rights ...
that is, that the partner is included in the default inheritance order and that he gets hospital visitation rights.

The only thing mentioned by you that one might see as a privilege (IMHO) is the tax reduction
How come they are rights? Why isn't there an official BFF recognition that gives my best friend the same rights?
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:54 PM   #4
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Polygamy should be legal, too.
Start with 1 dude...
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:17 PM   #5
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Then the gay guy's partner marries the gay woman's partner and they swap IDs when they want to go visit to the hospital.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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In Belgium cohabiting is almost like marriage, and most any two people who live together can set it up including mother/daughter and brother/brother and good friend/good friend.

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Old 07-28-2012, 07:00 PM   #7
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I'd have no problem with polygamous marriage if all parties in the union give full and informed consent.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:32 PM   #8
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Homosexuality is obviously a sexual deviation no different from polygamy, incest or bestiality, but more importantly yes, everything homosexuals want is a privilege, not a right. It seems like no one understands what rights are anymore. I'm guessing it is because society is so advanced, and we have all sorts of options now in terms of air travel, home appliances, schools, etc. that we just think it's our right to have whatever we think we should have.

The day that I am married to my partner, should he die before me, I want to be able to visit him when he's on his deathbed. "I want it = It's my right." It's endemic and it needs to stop.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:29 PM   #9
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I've been pro gay marriage for several years, but reading Poly has caused me to reassess my views.
Gay cohabitation is not a problem: no one will send you to jail if you live with your homosexual partner and call him your husband. You have every right to do that. I'm not against churches recognizing your cohabitation as a marriage. What I am against is the recognition of your marriage by the state, which is what most gay couples actually want.
When your cohabitation is recognized as a marriage, you get all sorts of benefits: you are included in the default inheritance order, pay less taxes, get hospital visitation rights, etc. But getting these benefits is not your right, it's a privilege. Why should the government provide these benefits to you but not other sexual deviants?
Yes, homosexuality is a sexual devitation, like polygamy, pedophilia and zoophilia. You cannot even claim that homosexuality is different because both partners are consenting adults. Polygamists are also consenting adults, yet they have zero official recognition. Why should only homosexuality be elevated to the same level of recognition as the sexual norm? It already enjoys the benefit of legality.
What is a "deviation"? Something that is not the majority? Are interracial marriages also not a deviation?

Why the **** should that factor into your decision?

Polygamy (arguably), pedophilia, and zoophilia (bestiality?) all have victims. Homosexuality does not.

In nature - not just humans - coupling is seen as a means of survival. Couples are not just of different sexes, but sometimes of the same sex, too. There are mental health benefits, financial benefits, and social benefits to having a partner. Those benefits should not be only enjoyed by people who **** the opposite sex.

I don't care about the *******s who ***** about "rights" vs "privileges" - that's specific to your own ****ed up countries. In Canada, gays have the right to marry.

If your country doesn't, then that's a flaw of your country. Don't pretend it's any different or that it matters to those in civilized countries any way.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:20 AM   #10
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The day that I am married to my partner, should he die before me, I want to be able to visit him when he's on his deathbed. Christ.

It's called 'power of attorney'.

I'm not even an American, but I have mine all set up and legally witnessed so that if anything should happen to me, the people that I want to make these decisions can make them, visit me, whatever.

If I can get that set up, then what's the problem, Mr. Fun?
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:21 AM   #11
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So you're claiming that unless the state provides recognition for your relationship that these benefits don't exist?
I'd be interested in hearing you explain how I could do a spousal RRSP transfer without legal recognition by the state.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #12
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I'd be interested in hearing you explain how I could do a spousal RRSP transfer without legal recognition by the state. Ahh, I see. So you're *****ing because of a government benefit.

Pull it out of the RRSP. Problem solved.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:45 AM   #13
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Probably because it's well known that the power of attorney does not trump family in all cases. Oh, so you aren't asking for equal rights, but rather special rights then.

she claims hospital officials told her she wasn’t a family member under Florida law. She probably didn't bother setting it up in the first place, and it took time to get it all sorted out.

Although she eventually prevailed, her partner’s condition had already deteriorated and the woman died. So she did get to see her. Problem solved.

A parent, sister or nephew could have more rights under the law than a same-sex partner who has been together 20 years. Then get it set up and properly witnessed well ahead of time. I have family as well, and yes, it took time to get things all set up with them. But it's all done now.

by the time Sharon was allowed back into the room, the next day, JoAnn couldn’t be revived. JoAnn died not long after. So she was let in and did get to see her. That's 2 down.

chose not to recognize it for eight hours. Can they prove this, or did it simply take time to get things straightened out? Three down.

Sometimes **** happens, Asher. My mother did not get to see my father before he passed away. None of us did.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:50 AM   #14
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Oh, so you aren't asking for equal rights, but rather special rights then.
Yes, Ben.

Asking for the same rights and privileges as heterosexual couples is asking for special rights. No one in the history of the world had unquestioned hospital access to their loved ones before those pesky gay couples started asking for SPECIAL, ONE OF A KIND rights.

You're an idiot, a bigot, a dumbass, and in all likelihood a psychopath.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:52 AM   #15
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Ben Kenobi has the wrong reason for being opposed to gay marriage. The correct reason is disgust at our ridiculous 21st century culture of entitlement.
It started with those dumbass niggers thinking they had the same rights as the superior race, amiright?
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:55 AM   #16
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No, clearly what you want is a special 'gay badge', that lets you get to see your partner and puts you to the front of the line, ahead of family, etc. Special rights, not equal rights.
????????

Clearly what I want (and what I have...) is the right to marry my partner and have the same privileges as a heterosexual couple in terms of medical decisions and hospital visitation.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:56 AM   #17
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Do you think my mother got to see my father despite being married for 30 years and 3 kids together before he died? No. None of us did.
You're telling me your mother brought your father to the hospital and argued with lawyers and administrators for 8 hours while your father died in the next room without being able to see him?

You are somehow the most un-Christian person I've ever seen. It's pathetic. You have no compassion, no empathy, no love. You are full of hate and bigotry. Sad pathetic excuse of a human being.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:57 AM   #18
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You want your visitation rights to trump everyone else's. Clearly special rights and not equal rights.
????????????????

What the **** ISN'T wrong with your brain?

The visitation right of a married partner ALWAYS trumps everyone else's. This is NOT a special right.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:00 AM   #19
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You're telling me your mother brought your father to the hospital and argued with lawyers and administrators for 8 hours while your father died in the next room without being able to see him? I'm saying that between the time that my father collapsed, that his work found him, called an ambulance, called my mother, he arrived at the hospital, she got the message, she called her mother and father, got stripped out of the hospital, drove out to where my father was, he'd already passed on.

**** happens asher. Yes, they were let in to see their partner and that's the important part.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:02 AM   #20
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The visitation right of a married partner ALWAYS trumps everyone else's. This is NOT a special right. Yes, it is a special right, which is why you are asking for it. If it wasn't a special right, then you wouldn't be asking for it. Again, you're not asking for equal treatment, but rather, special treatment. You want to be put at the front of the line.

This is why they should issue gay people special gay badges so that they and their partners can be identified before they get to the hospital to ensure that they don't have to wait. Matching badges - matching partners.
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