[HotboTgameR]

The premise is interesting, could be a good movie if it's not too ridiculous
in every scene...

[tsovimnpb]

I love the President Palin.

[Pippoles]

I am so excited about this movie.

Why do you always get excited about shitty stuff (Duke Nukem)? You're like a hipster.

You probably love you some Bruce Campbell, too.

[prearpaccew]

He doesn't get excited about all shitty stuff. I'm pretty sure he dislikes rap, for example.

You're getting boring. We all know what I mean by shitty (Octoshark, Duke Nukem, etc. **** people like ironically) and that's not the same thing as your ignorant hatred of an entire genre of music.

[WaydayTew]

You're getting boring. We all know what I mean by shitty (Octoshark, Duke Nukem, etc. **** people like ironically) and that's not the same thing as your ignorant hatred of an entire genre of music.

It's not ignorant, it's informed by the knowledge that the most basic traits of the genre make it irredeemably shitty. Kind of like if somebody made "music" out of the sound of cats being neutered sans anesthetic. There's absolutely no way to make that, or rap, not suck. It's simply not possible to make rap not suck without making it no longer rap.

[SappyAppy]

He doesn't get excited about all shitty stuff. I'm pretty sure he dislikes rap, for example.

Heh heh.

[rojettafoxx]

It's not ignorant, it's informed by the knowledge that the most basic traits of the genre make it irredeemably shitty. Kind of like if somebody made "music" out of the sound of cats being neutered sans anesthetic. There's absolutely no way to make that, or rap, not suck. It's simply not possible to make rap not suck without making it no longer rap.

How the **** is it 2012 and rap isn't accepted as a legitimate art form? Rapper's Delight came out 33 freaking years ago! You truly are a close-minded troglodyte. Not saying you need to like it but you need to come to the acceptance that it is valid and has aesthetic value.

[orerviche]

How the **** is it 2012 and rap isn't accepted as a legitimate art form? Rapper's Delight came out 33 freaking years ago! You truly are a close-minded troglodyte. Not saying you need to like it but you need to come to the acceptance that it is valid and has aesthetic value.

WTF is Rapper's Delight? Also, how can something have aesthetic value if it sucks?

[SHaEFU0i]

WTF is Rapper's Delight?

"Rapper's Delight" is a 1979 single by American hip hop trio The Sugarhill Gang. While it was not the first single to feature rapping, it is generally considered to be the song that first popularized hip hop in the United States and around the world "Now what you hear is not a test, I'm rapping to the beat"

[VovTortki]

Allan Ginsberg came out, in both senses, more than fifty years ago. Therefore, we must believe his work had aesthetic value. Especially the one about masturbating in the guy's Jeep.

Ditto modern "performance art."

I wasn't aware Allan Ginsberg was as popular or culturally pervasive as hip hop.

[fkjghfg]

"Now what you hear is not a test, I'm rapping to the beat"

That was incredibly boring.

[Rndouglas]

I already said it's not about liking. It's about acceptance as having value. I think heavy metal is terrible but I recognize it has aesthetic value to some people.

You have a problem accepting that rap as a genre has value.

YOU are the close-minded one.

You haven't given a single reason why anyone should believe that aesthetic value is some sort of objective quality that you can recognize in something you don't like. I personally am not going to pretend to have respect for someone who thinks that six minute borefest you posted is exciting.

[xADMlNx]

Seriously? They are hardly the first people to write a song with no chorus so what's your point?

[infarrelisam]

Seriously? They are hardly the first people to write a song with no chorus so what's your point?

They introduced a nascent genre to the world while being one of the very few songs as of their time to not have a chorus. How significant is this? Their popularization of rap and hip hop was clearly far more significant but the structure, the lack of a build, the scarcity of 'architecture' is compelling:

Sure, Wonder Mike spins a variation on his opening scat about a third of the way through the record’s 15-minute span, but musically, the only form in evidence is a repeated 16-bar loop lifted from Chic’s number-one hit “Good Times” - eight bars of Bernard Edwards’ bass, eight bars of funky rhythm guitar and piano, over and over and over again. No separation into verse and chorus, no buildup to the release of a collective sing-along.

Pop music had produced the occasional chorus-less song - Jimi Hendrix’s blues-based “Purple Haze,” for example, or through-composed tableaux like Roy Orbison’s “In Dreams.” But “Rapper’s Delight,” spooling out over the simple machine of its backing track, was something else: fluid dynamics instead of architecture.

[BegeMoT]

Not very significant. If rap really has the enormous "aesthetic value" you claim it has then someone was going to introduce it to the world sooner or later, right? And the "song" (if you can call it a song) sucks.

I don't understand what your second sentence means.

What is the definition of 'song' to you and how does Rapper's Delight not fit that definition? I'm struggling to see what basis can someone have that that is not a 'song'.

[Lymneterfeiff]

Can we just have one thread on this forum that isn't about gay people or Alby pwning himself?

I'm pretty sure Al is a Nazi sympathizer so of course he would hijack thread about Nazi pictures.

[Hmntezmb]

*reference to Abner Louima, "who was assaulted, brutalized and forcibly sodomized with the handle of a bathroom plunger by New York City police officers after being arrested outside a Brooklyn nightclub in 1997." sodomized with a plunger?

as for the "song", meh

[wizardasa]

That Movie looks far better than I expected from the last Teasers. I did nazi that coming.

[jokilewqs]

1. The verses you posted, and what I could make out of the "song," are extremely clunky and forced. Like the transition from "pull" to "pulling wool over the eyes," who thinks that sounds clever? It doesn't sound like wordplay so much as free association, like the guy's just saying tangentially related stuff off the top of his head. I did that while I was still high after having my wisdom teeth removed; am I eligible for a Grammy?
2. "Song" is in quotes because that composition, like most if not all rap compositions, is notably lacking in both melody and actual singing. It's a repetitive background beat with some dude talking over it in a vaguely aggressive tone of voice. Also waving his arms like a spastic referee. But in any case, no melody, no singing? Not a song.
3. You owe me that 1:26 of my life back. I imagine the remaining 3:14 is the same blasted thing, just with different barely-intelligible lyrics which, when deciphered, turn out to be bad. Or to be obscure references to old abuses by police.

[texbrease]

So not a 'song' or 'music' either?

I only watched twenty seconds of that but what I saw was clearly not a song.