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Old 09-01-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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Default F1 2012 - Belgian GP
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps




Race name: 2012 FORMULA 1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX
Track name: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps (F1 Onboard 2011 - Spa-Francorchamps - N.Rosberg - YouTube)
Track length: 7,004 km
Race length: 44 laps = 308,052 km
Track record: 1:45.108 - Kimi Räikkönen, McLaren-Mercedes (2004)

2011:
Winner: Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault
Pole position: Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault - 1:48.298
Fastest lap in race: Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault - 1:49.883

Previous winners:
2010: Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes
2009: Kimi Räikkönen, Ferrari
2008: Felipe Massa, Ferrari


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Teams:

1 & 2. Red Bull Racing GBR Renault
3 & 4. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes GBR Mercedes
5 & 6. Scuderia Ferrari ITA Ferrari
7 & 8. Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team GBR Mercedes
9 & 10. Lotus F1 Team GBR Renault
11 & 12. Sahara Force India F1 Team GBR Mercedes
14 & 15. Sauber F1 Team SUI Ferrari
16 & 17. Scuderia Toro Rosso ITA Ferrari
18 & 19. Williams GBR Renault
20 & 21. Caterham GBR Renault
22 & 23. HRT F1 Team SPA Cosworth
24 & 25. Marussia F1 Team GBR Cosworth

Drivers:

01. Sebastian Vettel GER Red Bull
02. Mark Webber AUS Red Bull
03. Jenson Button GBR McLaren
04. Lewis Hamilton GBR McLaren
05. Fernando Alonso ESP Ferrari
06. Felipe Massa BRA Ferrari
07. Michael Schumacher GER Mercedes
08. Nico Rosberg GER Mercedes
09. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Lotus
10. Romain Grosjean FRA Lotus
11. Paul di Resta GBR Force India
12. Nico Hülkenberg GER Force India
14. Kamui Kobayashi JPN Sauber
15. Sergio Pérez MEX Sauber
16. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Toro Rosso
17. Jean-Éric Vergne FRA Toro Rosso
18. Pastor Maldonado VEN Williams
19. Bruno Senna BRA Williams
20. Heikki Kovalainen FIN Caterham
21. Vitaly Petrov RUS Caterham
22. Pedro de la Rosa SPA HRT
23. Narain Karthikeyan IND HRT
24. Timo Glock GER Marussia
25. Charles Pic FRA Marussia


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Points system:

10 first get points, winning yields 25, second sport 18 and thrid 15. Positions 4 to 10 yield 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 points.

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Drivers championship (11/20 races):

01. Fernando Alonso 164
02. Mark Webber 124
03. Sebastian Vettel 122
04. Lewis Hamilton 117
05. Kimi Räikkönen 116
06. Nico Rosberg 77
07. Jenson Button 76
08. Romain Grosjean 76
09. Sergio Perez 47
10. Kamui Kobayashi 33
11. Pastor Maldonado 29
12. Michael Schumacher 29
13. Paul di Resta 27
14. Felipe Massa 25
15. Bruno Senna 24
16. Nico Hülkenberg 19
17. Jean-Éric Vergne 4
18. Daniel Ricciardo 2
19. Heikki Kovalainen 0
20. Vitaly Petrov 0
21. Timo Glock 0
22. Charles Pic 0
23. Narain Karthikeyan 0
24. Pedro de la Rosa 0

Constructors championship (11/20 races):

01. Red Bull Racing-Renault 246
02. McLaren-Mercedes 193
03. Lotus-Renault 192
04. Ferrari 189
05. Mercedes 106
06. Sauber-Ferrari 80
07. Williams-Renault 53
08. Force India-Mercedes 46
09. STR-Ferrari 6
10. Caterham-Renault 0
11. HRT-Cosworth 0
12. Marussia-Cosworth 0

--- Post Update ---

Friday practises were ruined by heavy rain, but now it's all sunshine and track pretty much drying up too.

Fingerscrossed for the King of Spa aka Kimi Räikkönen winning the race
Sadly Lotus isn't using their new "double-DRS", because they lost the friday practice to rain
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:34 PM   #2
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Very cool there right now. 12C air temp so going to be an interesting qualy

Webber -5 GB change. Probably one for a Merc, wasn't listening whose car failed.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:06 PM   #3
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Very cool there right now. 12C air temp so going to be an interesting qualy

Webber -5 GB change. Probably one for a Merc, wasn't listening whose car failed.
It was Rosbergs I think.

Looking good for Räikkönen, 2nd fastest in practice even without the new "double-DRS"
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:44 PM   #4
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Lotus could really use the "double-DRS" here, Räikkönen somewhere like bottom 3rd in first section, but apparently Lotus is blazing flast the other 2 sections
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:46 PM   #5
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No Vet Q3

--- Post Update ---

Lotus could really use the "double-DRS" here, Räikkönen somewhere like bottom 3rd in first section, but apparently Lotus is blazing flast the other 2 sections
It's a tradeoff you need to make. High downforce or low downforce.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:02 PM   #6
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WTF Button
Incredible come back after the summer break from him, Maldonado did a lot better than expected too. Shame Lotus didn't get the double-drs, could have pushed Kimi up couple places, even if not pole
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:04 PM   #7
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LOL Raikonnen sucks balls. He needs the DBL DRS
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:06 PM   #8
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LOL Raikonnen sucks balls. He needs the DBL DRS
Still enough to out qualify Grosjean
And considering Renault is considered weakest top-speed wise overall of the "3 big engines", not bad on a track like this

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Translated reaction to Maldonado & Kobayashi from another forum:
I would rather had even Alonso ahead of Kimi, than 50 kilos of guaranteed japanese kamikaze and columbian bonehead, which will definitely destroy Räikkönen's race at the latest in 1st corner
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:12 PM   #9
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This was one of Lotus's most favoured races, so not much chance this season then?
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:14 PM   #10
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Kimi stuffed up in the chicane. Not sure why you think Kimi is the master here CB, nine different pole winners in nine years.

Top 3 was a surprise that's for sure, although I consider Kobi and Maldonado to be as fast as anyone on their day. They all benefited from being smart enough to run a low down force setup.

Button surely looks good to take a win here.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:16 PM   #11
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This was one of Lotus's most favoured races, so not much chance this season then?
It was based on assumption of actually getting the double-drs for this, but the friday practice ruined that chance, obviously Lotus just loses on the big straights.
And 4th isn't really that bad, considering their race pace, there's nothing preventing Kimi from having realistic chance on victory, obviously assuming Maldonado doesn't go smashing him to fences

Kimi stuffed up in the chicane. Not sure why you think Kimi is the master here CB, nine different pole winners in nine years.
Not in the qualifying obviously, only 1 pole, but he has incredible win rate here, 4 wins out of 7 races, which of 1 was in car which had no possible chance of ever winning back then (Sauber)
Schumacher has won 2 times more, total of 6, but that's from double the races compared to Kimi.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:25 PM   #12
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Not in the qualifying obviously, only 1 pole, but he has incredible win rate here, 4 wins out of 7 races, which of 1 was in car which had no possible chance of ever winning back then (Sauber)
Schumacher has won 2 times more, total of 6, but that's from double the races compared to Kimi.
Ah yes, but he did in a car that had the straight line speed advantage. A lot like Button had today.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:53 PM   #13
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Ah yes, but he did in a car that had the straight line speed advantage. A lot like Button had today.
It's practicly impossible to find top speed trap speeds from those seasons (anymore), but did McLaren or Ferrari really have the fastest straight line speed on those seasons that Kimi won?
I seem to have a memory that Kimi has always been more on the "win in cornering speed" rather than "win in straight line speed" guys?
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:27 PM   #14
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Well his 2009 victory was from a pass on the straight after a restart, everywhere else Fisichella was faster and Fisi was on his gearbox the rest of the race, he just didn't have the straight line speed to pass the Ferrari. It's how tomorrows race will pan out for Button I think, he will have too much speed for anyone to challenge him if he keeps his race mistake free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaAk0eLEDMg
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:38 PM   #15
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According to finnish f1 commentator, Kimi didn't get penalty from suspected "shortcutting eau rouge", Maldonado got 3 places for something, dunno what, though, putting Kimi to 3rd spot
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:07 PM   #16
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I think Maldonado impeded Hulkenberg in Q1 and got a penalty for that.

It's a good grid though which will hopefully give a good race. Shame I don't think it'll rain though.
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:11 PM   #17
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Yep, it was the investigation they where talking about in Q1. It made no difference anyway to Hulkenburg though, he still made Q2.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:45 PM   #18
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Is there any way to watch the race live on my computer? A live stream or something? MotoGP.com offers video passes for all the races (at a price, of course), but I can't find anything like that for Formula One.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:51 PM   #19
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Is there any way to watch the race live on my computer? A live stream or something? MotoGP.com offers video passes for all the races (at a price, of course), but I can't find anything like that for Formula One.
Yes there is, but not knowing the policy on forums regarding the "gray zone" on this subject not going to post links in the thread
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:56 PM   #20
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Is there any way to watch the race live on my computer? A live stream or something? MotoGP.com offers video passes for all the races (at a price, of course), but I can't find anything like that for Formula One.
Try your local broadcasters website, I know some countries stream the tv coverage legally now (channel 10 does it here in Australia).
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