[popillio]

You live in the US where you need a map to find your way around the average living room. That size is far to big for the average UK living room.

Bungle, I don't have a single friend with a TV less than 42". I'm sorry, but you have no vision whatsoever. You would help yourself so much if you could put yourself in someone else's shoes for once. I don't know how many times people need to tell you that just because you can't see why something is needed it does not mean that it isn't needed.

It wasn't long ago that you argued for days that nobody needed a PC monitor bigger than 15". If that were the case, why is nobody selling one that small anymore (OK, I'm sure there are few left somewhere)?

Here is a rough sizing guide: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000021501

[ZZipZZipe]

Not really sure it would make a great difference for movies, but imagine PC gaming on that resolution.

You'd still get people here crying about jaggies.

[ZwHRoTTn]

Bungle, I don't have a single friend with a TV less than 42". I'm sorry, but you have no vision whatsoever. You would help yourself so much if you could put yourself in someone else's shoes for once. I don't know how many times people need to tell you that just because you can't see why something is needed it does not mean that it isn't needed.

Sooooo.....because you know a few people with large TVs that means everyone wants one and are prepared to squeeze one into their small living rooms? I think it's you who needs to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Do you actually live in the UK, because it seems to me you don't have a clue what goes on here. First you try to argue that A/C is ubiquitous here when it isn't, and now you're trying to argue that people with relatively tiny livings all want to put behemoth TVs in them.


It wasn't long ago that you argued for days that nobody needed a PC monitor bigger than 15". If that were the case, why is nobody selling one that small anymore (OK, I'm sure there are few left somewhere)?

Here is a rough sizing guide: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000021501 Yeah, you keep brining that up like a dog with a bone. IIRC what I said was that a monitor bigger than 15" wasn't ESSENTIAL, but you seem to think working with anything smaller was impossible, which is clearly nonsense.

[LeaderBiz]

Sooooo.....because you know a few people with large TVs that means everyone wants one and are prepared to squeeze one into their small living rooms? I think it's you who needs to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Do you actually live in the UK, because it seems to me you don't have a clue what goes on here. First you try to argue that A/C is ubiquitous here when it isn't, and now you're trying to argue that people with relatively tiny livings all want to put behemoth TVs in them.



Yeah, you keep brining that up like a dog with a bone. IIRC what I said was that a monitor bigger than 15" wasn't ESSENTIAL, but you seem to think working with anything smaller was impossible, which is clearly nonsense.

Bungle, Bungle, Bungle....

1) I argued that A/C is ubiquitous in modern office blocks in the UK. It is. Working in the civil service you are never likely to see a modern office block, so let's let that one slide.

2) I have a lot of friends, and I go to a lot of parties. I have yet to see anyone with less than a 32" TV in even the smallest of lounge, and usually 40"+. Just because you are not an aspirational person doesn't mean nobody else is.

Why Are you so ferocious in your attitude towards anyone daring to want something you don't think is essential? It's part of the reason you get attacked so much, in case you were wondering.

Bungle, here is a clue: If something is selling in the millions, then more than a handful of people want it. Unless of course you think that they have sold millions of large screen TVs to people who just want to stop anyone from buying a large screen TV?

[9V42h1eT]

I think there's certainly such a thing as a too big screen. For example, I sit about 1.5 meters away from my 42" TV. I feel like anything bigger would make glancing at hud elements in games at the edges of the screen much less of a glance and much more of a look.

That said, if I had the room I'd certainly sit further back and opt for 60"+. The sense of scale in gaming was never really delivered with a 24" monitor and it can only improve as screens get bigger.

As for 8K, I'd like for TV's to get other factors such as motion handling, contrast, black level and color accuracy right before working on resolution. I find they're much more beneficial for image quality.

[ATTILAGLIC]

Bungle, Bungle, Bungle....

1) I argued that A/C is ubiquitous in modern office blocks in the UK. It is. Working in the civil service you are never likely to see a modern office block, so let's let that one slide.

2) I have a lot of friends, and I go to a lot of parties. I have yet to see anyone with less than a 32" TV in even the smallest of lounge, and usually 40"+. Just because you are not an aspirational person doesn't mean nobody else is.

Why Are you so ferocious in your attitude towards anyone daring to want something you don't think is essential? It's part of the reason you get attacked so much, in case you were wondering.

Bungle, here is a clue: If something is selling in the millions, then more than a handful of people want it. Unless of course you think that they have sold millions of large screen TVs to people who just want to stop anyone from buying a large screen TV?

DM, DM, DM......

1) The conversation was about residential accommodation, so offices have nothing to do with it.

2) You go to a lot of parties? I don't doubt it.......

And you have a different definition of "ferocious" from me. IIRC what usually happens is that I state the view that I see no point in something, and give my reasons, and then instead of putting forward reasoned arguments why it is people like you choose to go on the offensive and mount an attack upon me.

[RobertLS]

DM, DM, DM......

1) The conversation was about residential accommodation, so offices have nothing to do with it.

2) You go to a lot of parties? I don't doubt it.......

And you have a different definition of "ferocious" from me. IIRC what usually happens is that I state the view that I see no point in something, and give my reasons, and then instead of putting forward reasoned arguments why it is people like you choose to go on the offensive and mount an attack upon me.

That's because you more often than not fail to see the big picture, Bungle.
Instead of seeing a technological leap as a what it is, a technological leap, you turn it into a "there's no need for it now in my house" argument.

[maclaudser]

DM, DM, DM......

1) The conversation was about residential accommodation, so offices have nothing to do with it.

2) You go to a lot of parties? I don't doubt it.......

And you have a different definition of "ferocious" from me. IIRC what usually happens is that I state the view that I see no point in something, and give my reasons, and then instead of putting forward reasoned arguments why it is people like you choose to go on the offensive and mount an attack upon me.

1) Sure about that, are you? Or did you just have bunglevision on again? EDIT: So I checked this out and oh look, I was talking about hotels and commercial buildings. Residential means your house, Bungle. If you can find a modern hotel or office block that isn't air-conditioned I'll eat my sock.

2) I'll tell you about a party sometime.

As for what happens, it's this. You tell us what you think, you then get angry when other people apply logic and explain why there are other ways of looking at things. You then get really annoyed because you can't see any need to anything you don't want.

[Affolfembonge]

The thing is 4K is still a few years off and we are talking about 8K here. But the next big thing in video display is holographics (proper 3D). While we are unlikely to see any sensibly priced commercial units this decade, the same could well be true of 8K TVs. So I am not convinced there will be a massive demand for it, if it takes too long for the prices to get sensible and the content to be there.

[Battwenue]

I live in a really small flat at the moment and my g/f's 32" TV is just about right for the room, anything bigger would take up way too much room and require all of the furniture in the room to be moved about and some of it possibly sold on just to keep the room looking tidy and uncluttered.

We both sit about 5-6 feet from it and that's about the right distance for us and our eyesight.

[Mediconlinee]

We both sit about 5-6 feet from it and that's about the right distance for us and our eyesight.

Are you watching SD or HD content?

[jeepgrandch]

1) Sure about that, are you? Or did you just have bunglevision on again? EDIT: So I checked this out and oh look, I was talking about hotels and commercial buildings. Residential means your house, Bungle.

The converstion was about the athletes accommodation.................

If you can find a modern hotel or office block that isn't air-conditioned I'll eat my sock. I've stayed in three different hotels recently, none of which had A/C.

As for what happens, it's this. You tell us what you think, you then get angry when other people apply logic and explain why there are other ways of looking at things. You then get really annoyed because you can't see any need to anything you don't want. I'm not sure how you worked out I get "angry"? For your information what happens is this:

Me: I can't see the point of that because of X.

You (or whoever): WTF??? You're such an idiot! How dare you say it's useless you prat! Of course it's not useless (notice no reason given).

Anyway, this thread is boring me now. I've better things to do than go round in circles with you.

[ovH9wfSJ]

The converstion was about the athletes accommodation.................

Essentially a commercial building / hotel

I've stayed in three different hotels recently, none of which had A/C.

Names and locations of these hotels?

[yatrahnualenu]

Are you watching SD or HD content?

We watch both standard TV SD content and occasionally plug my laptop into it via HDMI and watch HD films.

[Ngdyoysv]

Not that I want to get into either of these arguments again.....

Essentially a commercial building / hotel

But they're not open plan like an office or a shopping centre, they're enclosed rooms like your house, with windows. And it's not really a commercial building; anyone can't just turn up and stay there. It's private accommodation for a particular group of people.

Names and locations of these hotels? Dean Court Hotel, York

Castle Hotel, Lincoln

Royal Station Hotel, Newcastle

[Cemeuncex]

DM, DM, DM......

1) The conversation was about residential accommodation, so offices have nothing to do with it.

2) You go to a lot of parties? I don't doubt it.......

And you have a different definition of "ferocious" from me. IIRC what usually happens is that I state the view that I see no point in something, and give my reasons, and then instead of putting forward reasoned arguments why it is people like you choose to go on the offensive and mount an attack upon me.

yeah I would like to have a 50" TV I can afford it, but I don't think it would be suited to the size of our front room.

37" is fine for us.

[phenterminediett]

I think there's certainly such a thing as a too big screen. For example, I sit about 1.5 meters away from my 42" TV. I feel like anything bigger would make glancing at hud elements in games at the edges of the screen much less of a glance and much more of a look.

That said, if I had the room I'd certainly sit further back and opt for 60"+. The sense of scale in gaming was never really delivered with a 24" monitor and it can only improve as screens get bigger.

Well, yes of course. My previous comments in regards to a screen cannot be too big for a room was in regards to more regular viewing distances (7-10 feet), in which case no tv available to the general consumer right now can be too big since they basically top out afaik 60-65 inches.

In your case you see to use it as a monitor at 4-5 feet away, 42 inched should be glorious at that distance.

As for 8K, I'd like for TV's to get other factors such as motion handling, contrast, black level and color accuracy right before working on resolution. I find they're much more beneficial for image quality.

This is what I said before, although I await the res increase eagerly, I think other factors like the ones you mentioned are more important right now since we're not really lacking in resolution considering the tv sizes we have.

I'd much rather have an 80 inch screen with absolutely impeccable picture quality with 1080p resolution for 2000 euros or less in two years time rather than a 4k screen with an average screen quality and twice the price.

[Encannavalf]

Not that I want to get into either of these arguments again.....


But they're not open plan like an office or a shopping centre, they're enclosed rooms like your house, with windows. And it's not really a commercial building; anyone can't just turn up and stay there. It's private accommodation for a particular group of people.


Dean Court Hotel, York

Castle Hotel, Lincoln

Royal Station Hotel, Newcastle

A hotel is a commercial property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_property

The first of those hotels has air con and the other two aren't exactly modern buildings, are they.

[SDorothy28]

A hotel is a commercial property.

But it's not a hotel...........

[Plulpangepler]

I looked on the site last night, right on the first page it says that communal areas are air conditioned.