[exchpaypaleg]

So you're the ignorant one then.

Go to and name any headline that's rubbish.

This deserves no response except a warning to others: Do not click that ad-infested link.

For some that believes that Bill Gates is self-serving you have really turned a blind eye on an anti-establishment website that has over a dozen corporate sponsors on the front page.

Someone was speaking of ignorance??

[arraxylap]

This deserves no response except a warning to others: Do not click that ad-infested link.

Indeed - thanks for the tip.

[ancexttew]

Ummm I don't see any sponsors on the front page.

I know he promotes one or two things like Vitamin C supplements and water filters.... WOW holy ****.

[Kneedycrype]

Ummm I don't see any adverts on the homepage.

Disable ad-block.

[Rugda]

Disable ad-block.

Is this actually happening or have I stepped into some weird alternate universe? What's next? Will is a cross-dresser? Sparafucil lives in the real world?

[VarenHokalos]

Is this actually happening or have I stepped into some weird alternate universe? What's next? Will is a cross-dresser? Sparafucil lives in the real world?

...hatecore really was EaG...

[ayWCZ7VT]

There are people that don't use adblock?

ok so there's an advert for efoods direct. Is that so terrible? An advert on a website. Whatever next.

[exsmoker]

There are people that don't use adblock?

ok so there's an advert for efoods direct. Is that so terrible? An advert on a website. Whatever next.

[tutkarussia]

There are people that don't use adblock?

So corporate consumerism is fine as long as you can't see it?

[BopeDolaNeone]

As of when, Match 1st 2012? Wasn't that because of a California privacy law, or was it because Google got caught red-handed collecting user data? I don't remember my router asking permission when the Google car drove past and told it my IP address and what I was doing at the time.

Google's privacy policy has been castigated by virtually everyone worth listening to, and basically states "your data will be used to make us money" (with the exception of Google Wallet and Chrome).

Great!

Which is completely separate from Android. Both companies have been caught with mishandling user data before (like Apple storing all location data unencrypted IIRC). Really, if you feel better by believing that your platform of choice is any better than the competition and gives two ****s about your privacy, then by all means, go ahead.

[Scukonahuy]

Im shutting this nerdfest down, Protocol 10 will commence in 5 minutes .... counting.

[lorryuncori]

Which is completely separate from Android.

Right, because your telco controls your device, not Google.

Both companies have been caught with mishandling user data before (like Apple storing all location data unencrypted IIRC). One was a balls-up, the other was deliberate data gauging. Isn't there a difference?

Really, if you feel better by believing that your platform of choice is any better than the competition and gives two ****s about your privacy, then by all means, go ahead. Thanks for giving me permission. On a serious note, the decision to go with a particular platform should be driven by their policy, not blend belief in what they're doing after the fact.

[gkihueonhjh]

Right, because your telco controls your device, not Google.



One was a balls-up, the other was deliberate data gauging. Isn't there a difference?



Thanks for giving me permission. On a serious note, the decision to go with a particular platform should be driven by their policy, not blend belief in what they're doing after the fact.

Rather it should be driven by the knowledge that neither of them care about your privacy and both will use all of this data. Whenever you are confronted with the message that your personal information will be used by an app, do you feel better with it asking before you click ok anyway (even though both companies do this, but that is besides the point)? Unless you restrict yourself to using almost no apps at all, you will be passing on all of this information without knowing what it will be used for.

I personally loathe and fear both companies alike, saying that one is better than the other is silly as they're both horrible with privacy.

[crycleascentyv]

So corporate consumerism is fine as long as you can't see it?

And why in this case does it matter. Does it have anything to do with the content of the website really? Or is this just a distraction from the earlier question of "name any headline that's rubbish."

[Binuilienzync]

And why in this case does it matter. Does it have anything to do with the content of the website really? Or is this just a distraction from the earlier question of "name any headline that's rubbish."

Can someone else take this please.

[minowz]

Rather it should be driven by the knowledge that neither of them care about your privacy and both will use all of this data.

Google and Apple have different business models. With one, you pay your cash and get your stuff. It's an exchange. Here's my cash, where is my stuff... with the other, you get something for 'free', only it's not. With Apple, you're a consumer. With Google, you're a product.

There seems to be a belief amongst people of a certain age (or below a certain age) that everything is the same. All politicians are equally evil, all news corporations are biased, all companies are equally bad. There seems to be an inability to differentiate.

Whenever you are confronted with the message that your personal information will be used by an app, do you feel better with it asking before you click ok anyway (even though both companies do this, but that is besides the point)? I usually deny the application. I launched Batman Arkham Asylum yesterday for a quick play, and it asked me for access to my Address Book (this is Mountain Lion finally getting iOS controls). I said no... but I bet YOU didn't get that message and I bet Warner took the information anyway. It didn't stop me playing the game though.

Unless you restrict yourself to using almost no apps at all, you will be passing on all of this information without knowing what it will be used for. No, I can use all the apps I want to use without them knowing where I am or who I am and I might only want an app to know where I am at certain times, like Yelp when I am looking for something nearby, but not when I am writing a review.

I personally loathe and fear both companies alike, saying that one is better than the other is silly as they're both horrible with privacy. Unfortunately as long as you think this is true, bad companies will not be punished for being bad, and good companies will not be rewarded for their efforts. Total cynicism is no more effective that blank naivety.

[Kghyutgykim]

Google and Apple have different business models. With one, you pay your cash and get your stuff. It's an exchange. Here's my cash, where is my stuff... with the other, you get something for 'free', only it's not. With Apple, you're a consumer. With Google, you're a product.

There seems to be a belief amongst people of a certain age (or below a certain age) that everything is the same. All politicians are equally evil, all news corporations are biased, all companies are equally bad. There seems to be an inability to differentiate.



I usually deny the application. I launched Batman Arkham Asylum yesterday for a quick play, and it asked me for access to my Address Book (this is Mountain Lion finally getting iOS controls). I said no... but I bet YOU didn't get that message and I bet Warner took the information anyway. It didn't stop me playing the game though.



No, I can use all the apps I want to use without them knowing where I am or who I am and I might only want an app to know where I am at certain times, like Yelp when I am looking for something nearby, but not when I am writing a review.



Unfortunately as long as you think this is true, bad companies will not be punished for being bad, and good companies will not be rewarded for their efforts. Total cynicism is no more effective that blank naivety.

I am surprised why you would give Apple the benefit of the doubt. Apple's business model, when it comes to applications works the same way as it does for Android.

You can:

a., purchase an ad free app
b., purchase an ad supported app (iAd for apple for example).
c., Have in app purchases in a free app

You are no less a product with google than you are with apple.

[ricochettty]

Can someone else take this please.

Nice... typical empty reply.

It's not even corporate consumerism anyway.

[bely832new]

Nice... typical empty reply.

It's not even corporate consumerism anyway.

It did the job.

[infarrelisam]

It did the job.

See, there's another one.

Lunatic.