[unatkot]

It's just one nannying feature that many people like us would want off. The thing is, most people like us who would want it off, also hav the ability to turn it off, so it's not a problem.

My MacBook often used to ask for a password under similar circumstances.

I don't think you're naive enough to think Windows is made purely by hardcore programmers who go without daylight for weeks on end. I'm sure they do put a great deal of effort into the usability and interface.

[Goooooblin]

I don't think you're naive enough to think Windows is made purely by hardcore programmers who go without daylight for weeks on end. I'm sure they do put a great deal of effort into the usability and interface.

No, I'm not. But Microsoft is traditionally a geek's company and Apple a creative's. It's reflected in their interfaces.

[GSgCGxsF]

How do you know? According to you "You are mostly a OSX user, like I am mostly a Windows user."

I use OSX every few weeks due to work. Thinking of getting one to get more practice, actually.

I know about OSX security from reading expert opinions about it.

http://www.cultofmac.com/161822/appl...-last-quarter/

I also read another one where it says that OSX is ten years behind in OS security.

[brilkyPlayday]

No, I'm not. But Microsoft is traditionally a geek's company and Apple a creative's. It's reflected in their interfaces.

This is almost purely just marketing bs that you appear to have swallowed whole.

If by "creatives" you meant "trendy simpletons" I'll agree with you.

[joulseenjoync]

This is almost purely just marketing bs that you appear to have swallowed whole.

If by "creatives" you meant "trendy simpletons" I'll agree with you.

/facepalm.

It just isn't.

I'm not sure how to make this any simpler but I'll have a go:

Creative industries tend to use OSX.

Corporate businesses and programming types tend to use Windows.

The companies that make this software give their customers what they want.

I know that most people on here have forgotten that Apple existed before the iPod, but you need to think back a bit more.

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I know about OSX security from reading expert opinions about it.
.

That's 'so what' information really. In the real world, most of the issues reported in both OS's won't come to the surface.

[refsherne]

No, I'm not. But Microsoft is traditionally a geek's company and Apple a creative's. It's reflected in their interfaces.

It was, but then Bill Gates left...

Now there is Fisher-Price themed Windows 8 for the masses, we can hardly contain our excitement...

[drislerfottor]

No, I'm not. But Microsoft is traditionally a geek's company and Apple a creative's. It's reflected in their interfaces.

Wrong....


Windows = OS of the world, every type of person uses windows from entertainment industry, gamers, kids, social media, techies, IT, scientists, nerds, idiots, companies, businessmen, and so on... Everyone
Apple = OS of the simpletons who eat up marketing, some graphics artists, some video editors, university profs who are pig headed idiots that use an apple product to use parallels and windows all day long, and some techies
Unix/Linux = OS of the geeks, scientists, techies, and IT prof when mission critical data/apps/services are required to be up at all times.


edit: I would like to state that I am not claiming OSX to be crap. Far from it. There is a market for it, a use, and it is pretty powerful. My complaint is with the mass consumer/simpleton user base, Apple and its marketing, and the apple cultists. People who claim apple makes superior hardware but dont understand that it is the same intel x86 platform in a pc... And spending that same amount of money gets you the same hardware/outer shell quality on PC.

[maxuilg]

Creative industries tend to use OSX.

Re-read previous comment about "marketing".

[Peter Hill]

Creative industries tend to use OSX.

Trendy simpletons work in the creative industry.

[replicamuse]

Wrong....


Windows = OS of the world, every type of person uses windows from entertainment industry, gamers, kids, social media, techies, IT, scientists, nerds, idiots, companies, businessmen, and so on... Everyone
Apple = OS of the simpletons who eat up marketing, some graphics artists, some video editors, university profs who are pig headed idiots that use an apple product to use parallels and windows all day long, and some techies
Unix/Linux = OS of the geeks, scientists, techies, and IT prof when mission critical data/apps/services are required to be up at all times.

ROFL. You're such a typical nerd: no social skills, inability to communicate, obnoxious and short sighted. Go away.

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Trendy simpletons work in the creative industry.

At least they are trendy.

[leflyCode]

ROFL. You're such a typical nerd: no social skills, inability to communicate, obnoxious and short sighted. Go away.

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At least they are trendy.

So you're an atypical nerd?

[ergyuu]

Re-read previous comment about "marketing".

What exactly is the point you are failing to convey?

[Qutlsilh]

ROFL. You're such a typical nerd: no social skills, inability to communicate, obnoxious and short sighted. Go away.

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At least they are trendy.

You talk as if you are one of those "popular" kids in school who rags on nerds and geeks. But the sad part is you remind me of a brainless, materialistic, easily manipulated, and mass consumer fool who thinks he knows everything. The only reason I talk to you in hostility is because it seems to be the only thing you understand. I talk with reason, logic, and fairness to others but if I meet someone like you, self opinionated idiot, then I treat them the same way they treat me.

[kictainiSot]

You talk as if you are one of those "popular" kids in school who rags on nerds and geeks. But the sad part is you remind me of a brainless, materialistic, easily manipulated, and mass consumer fool who thinks he knows everything. The only reason I talk to you in hostility is because it seems to be the only thing you understand. I talk with reason, logic, and fairness to others but if I meet someone like you, self opinionated idiot, then I treat them the same way they treat me.

Such a judgemental attitude just makes it even more obvious how limited your mind is in capacity. Why don't you just stop responding and I'll do the same?

[Azzi_Kahlila]

What exactly is the point you are failing to convey?

The failure is yours. the point is fairly obvious, the idea that "creative people" should use apple products is pure marketing. And just because it worked to some extent does not take away from the fact that there is no real advantage to using apple products for "creative" endeavors.

[beonecenry]

I don't think usability of either Windows or OSX is any kind of problem anyway, they are both usable for the widest range of the general public, and come with plenty of support documentation and infrastructure online.

It's all about personal preference, if one person wants to use Windows, then fine, if someone's happy to use OSX then fine too.

I just prefer using Linux, as for me it's all about the range of distros & choice, and the apps/tools/functionality that comes with it. It may be like 2% of the desktop userbase worldwide, but it's about 90% of the global server market, and when the **** hits the fan, ultimately that's what counts for anybody's usability!

[w3QHxwNb]

The failure is yours. the point is fairly obvious, the idea that "creative people" should use apple products is pure marketing. And just because it worked to some extent does not take away from the fact that there is no real advantage to using apple products for "creative" endeavors.

I didn't say they should use apple. I said traditionally they do. That is a fact that cannot be disputed!

You're still not thinking about this at all.

Back in the 80's the Apple Mac was the de facto creative tool, and that has stuck with them. These days a lot of creatives use PC's as well, but the majority of design departments want Apple and nothing else.

Stop trying to shoot the messenger. All I am doing is passing on facts.

[SergeyMaikov]

Wrong....


Windows = OS of the world, every type of person uses windows from entertainment industry, gamers, kids, social media, techies, IT, scientists, nerds, idiots, companies, businessmen, and so on... Everyone
Apple = OS of the simpletons who eat up marketing, some graphics artists, some video editors, university profs who are pig headed idiots that use an apple product to use parallels and windows all day long, and some techies
Unix/Linux = OS of the geeks, scientists, techies, and IT prof when mission critical data/apps/services are required to be up at all times.


edit: I would like to state that I am not claiming OSX to be crap. Far from it. There is a market for it, a use, and it is pretty powerful. My complaint is with the mass consumer/simpleton user base, Apple and its marketing, and the apple cultists. People who claim apple makes superior hardware but dont understand that it is the same intel x86 platform in a pc... And spending that same amount of money gets you the same hardware/outer shell quality on PC.

I work in the film industry and the last time i looked that was a big part of a the entertainment industry no? 95% of the VFX houses use linux for the artists. My company is completely Centos 5 & 6 based for artists. The production use macs, macbooks and some on windows, as a preference thing. Artists numbers are far far greater than the production team.

Each OS has its positives and negatives for specific users. It is true that linux users need a strong team of support staff that know it inside out, but the results can be extremely good if done properly.

You cant pigeon hole industries to a specific OS. It all depends on the needs and ease of setup for certain people/jobs.

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You talk as if you are one of those "popular" kids in school who rags on nerds and geeks. But the sad part is you remind me of a brainless, materialistic, easily manipulated, and mass consumer fool who thinks he knows everything. The only reason I talk to you in hostility is because it seems to be the only thing you understand. I talk with reason, logic, and fairness to others but if I meet someone like you, self opinionated idiot, then I treat them the same way they treat me.

Yes, because you saying "Wrong" to an opinion and then listing yours as fact isn't being a self opinionated idiot. Its becoming increasingly difficult to have a discussion on this forum with people like you on here. If this thread upsets you or offends you or if you just think its plain stupid, then **** off........

[Lapsinuibense]

I have a class right now which takes place in a computer lab full of macs running... whatever the latest mac OS is. I'll admit I haven't a clue, but the professor was raving on and on about how we "had the latest". Whatever. We've been in this class for a little over two and a half weeks, and in that span of time I don't think I've seen a single mac work properly. Some applications just straight up refuse to open, or lock up the computer when they do, or open but don't work properly. I'm talking basic **** like Safari, Chrome, and Firefox.

This is when we can even get the damn things to work in the first place. I chose a cozy spot in the corner of the room at first, but have had to move 3 times because there are computers which simply refuse to acknowledge that they are even connected to a network connection with which they could log me into my school account. One computer logs me in, but hard locks on the desktop immediately after booting. There was one a guy was using right next to me that logs in and works just fine, but runs like the damn thing is using a pentium 1.

And as for usability, when I go to save a file on a program, why can't I actually chose where to save it? I get a list of 10 places to save my ****, and no other options? What the ****. Also, WHY is the ****ing scroll wheel reversed?! WHY?! I have tried to wrap my mind around every conceivable dimension in which you could possibly want to have a mouse wheel do the opposite of what they've been commonly known to do for the last two decades, but nope, there just isn't a reason. They're just backwards. Also, if I can right-click with the mouse, why in the **** not just let the mouse have two buttons? Apple thinks that having a one button mouse is less confusing, but how confusing is it to have "one button" do like 50 different things depending on the nuances of how you click it?

So... yeah. Just give me a windows PC where things make sense and we can actually get **** done in class without constantly having to call tech support, thanks.

[sueplydup]

And as for usability, when I go to save a file on a program, why can't I actually chose where to save it? I get a list of 10 places to save my ****, and no other options? What the ****. Also, WHY is the ****ing scroll wheel reversed?! WHY?! I have tried to wrap my mind around every conceivable dimension in which you could possibly want to have a mouse wheel do the opposite of what they've been commonly known to do for the last two decades, but nope, there just isn't a reason. They're just backwards. Also, if I can right-click with the mouse, why in the **** not just let the mouse have two buttons? Apple thinks that having a one button mouse is less confusing, but how confusing is it to have "one button" do like 50 different things depending on the nuances of how you click it?

So... yeah. Just give me a windows PC where things make sense and we can actually get **** done in class without constantly having to call tech support, thanks.

OK, OK. I get it.