Buying a 600cc Motobike Later This Month... Narrowed Down To...
 

I'm only willing to spend £2000 on one and all three of these come around that kind of price dependent on mileage really and obviously condition. I've ruled the Suzuki SV650 out now... as nice as it was... after playing on the 600 XJS's during our 600 practice sessions... I've decided I wanted sports bike but ONLY 600cc or below... and the CBR600 fits in perfect, good performance with 108bhp so not mental, gets great reviews, everyone loves them, job done. The Suzuki is a possible, but I don't look and say wow that's nice... so I think it's CBR time... I do my practicals on 8th and 16th May then I'm all passed!

Honda CBR600F Sport, Either a T Reg 1999 model in the colour combo below...

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or a Honda CBR600F Sport 2001 in the colour combo below... this is the face-lifted model of above with the pointy front and injection instead of carbs...

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Or a Suzuki GSXR600... in probably the standard white/blue/red

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All three very nice machines, which I'm sure you'll enjoy a lot. I don't think it will matter greatly which you end up with, I prefer the looks of the red CBR.

That is a great sports bike, and Honda have the best and most reliable engines although parts are expensive. Although not as expensive as the RR to insure, it will still cost you a few bob. I am very much against new riders getting a sports bikes, you do not have the experience neccessary. Going from an ER5 or similar to what is a very capable sports bike is not the same as going from a Fiesta to a sports car.

i would get the suzuki

There's no reason why a sportsbike can't be anyone's first. It depends much more on the person and his throttle hand. An older, 600cc bike is pretty forgiving, especially if it's not a full-on race bike (like a CBR 600R). Some people might be better off with a touring bike, but I don't think that should be a minimum requirement..?

Yes, an older bike is more forgiving, but there is a still a considerable more power under the back wheel. I would be more for a sports tourer such as a Yamaha Fazer, if that is the route he wants to go. That bike would give him a nice increase, and looks good as well. Once he has done 12 months on the road, then a 600F would be a very good choice. This is why new riders with sports bikes have so many accidents and points on their licence, they lack the experience an ability to control the bike safely at speed.

He'll be fine, those bikes won't really bite you if you give it the beans at lower RPM. I even rode a ZX10R and it was easy to ride as long as you didn't open the throttle in 1st gear at >mid range RPM

Both you and Fury are experienced riders, so am I. However neither of you have any statistics or data to tell you what a liability new riders with sports bikes are. I have over 5 years of experience dealing with new policies and renewals, and the fact is the people who run before they can walk generally have more accidents and points, especially within the first year of riding.

A modern R6, or any of the liter bikes, sure, those are beasts of machines that just want to attack a corner and blast out of it. I've noticed that just by coming from an FZR600 onto a YZF750. But is the difference between a Fazer and a CBR600F really that big, that you'd recommend to get on the Fazer, but recommend to stay away from the CBR..? I can hardly imagine that to be the case. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../confused1.gif

At any rate, I guess Pug's already made his choice by now. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/biggrin1.gif

The Fazer is an upright riding postition, as opposed to the CBR 600F which is more lay over the tank. That alone dictates a altogether different ride, no matter where the rev limit sits.

Older riders are also disproportianally represented as even a relatively small bike is more powerful than anything available the last time some of them rode.
Back when I started riding, the Kwaka Z1 900 had just come out and that had 82hp (one was a cousin's second bike after getting his licence on a 100cc dirt bike - but he was a skilled, if lunatic rider), and was the most powerful production engine at the time - now a good 500 is pushing that and is a darned sight smaller and lighter as well!
The result is that a casual twist of the throttle can have one travelling a darned sight faster than one may realise and if one isn't paying attention...

Going CBR600F as in the first picture, the 1999 in that colour... seen one today riding and thought it was fantastic looking machine on the move, loved the yellow and can't quite stretch right now to a £2200 for the 2001 editions... so, hopefully will be getting a viewing on a 1999 tomorrow... if I like it's mine baby lol.

Was tempted by this, as it's a bargain if it's genuine... but something doesn't seem right for me with it...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2610143411...84.m1438.l2649

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The CBR600F sport is also a "sport tourer", and only has a couple more HP than a fazer 600. A more forgiving bike would be something like a bandit 600. They are dead cheap too.
Yes, experience does matter. However what I meant is that even the ZX10R (and R6) are pretty tame if you don't give it the beans at high RPM.
A VTR1000 or superduke will be much harsher while making a lot less HP.

Say hello to my new baby :-) YYIIHHHAAAAAAA

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Grats! how many miles?

Did you give it some full throttle yet?

here he is... now it's just a matter of getting him home... bought him today... he's a 1999 T Reg (although private plate) CBR600F in my fave colour, yellow, but with the turquoise bottom... only a couple of changes from standard, small indicators, Devil Exhaust, Smoked Bubble Screen... but this was the killer for me, a genuine 8921 miles on him since new, 2 previous owners, currently who's had him 5 years... so made up with this... it'll be ready when I pass my Module 2 next week :-)

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Model:Honda CBR 600 FYear:1999Category:SportRating:79.1 out of 100. Show full rating and compare with other bikesEngine and transmissionDisplacement:599.00 ccm (36.55 cubic inches)Engine type:In-line four, four-strokePower:110.00 HP (80.3 kW)) @ 12500 RPMTorque:67.00 Nm (6.8 kgf-m or 49.4 ft.lbs) @ 10500 RPMTop speed:255.0 km/h (158.4 mph)0-100 km/h (0-62 mph):3.200 seconds60-140 km/h (37-87 mph), highest gear:12.600 secondsCompression:12.0:1Bore x stroke:67.0 x 42.5 mm (2.6 x 1.7 inches)Valves per cylinder:4Cooling system:LiquidGearbox:6-speedTransmission type,
final drive:ChainFuel consumption:0.62 litres/100 km (161.3 km/l or 379.39 mpg)Greenhouse gases:14.4 CO2 g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission)Chassis, suspension, brakes and wheelsFront suspension travel:120 mm (4.7 inches)Rear suspension travel:120 mm (4.7 inches)Front tyre dimensions:120/70-ZR17Rear tyre dimensions:180/55-ZR17Front brakes:Dual discFront brakes diameter:296 mm (11.7 inches)Rear brakes:Single discRear brakes diameter:220 mm (8.7 inches)Physical measures and capacitiesWeight incl. oil, gas, etc:199.0 kg (438.7 pounds)Front percentage of weight:49.6Seat height:810 mm (31.9 inches) If adjustable, lowest setting.Wheelbase:1,395 mm (54.9 inches)Fuel capacity:18.00 litres (4.76 gallons)

wow, low miles. good deal. check service history - it might need an 8K mile service, depending on when it was last done. but it is nothing major on those regardless.

Yeah cheers man... I'll be doing a service on it whether it needs it or not, I'm a bit pedantic on my cars etc with servicing, i.e. oil every 6k miles etc etc, so as soon as he lands in Wales, he'll be serviced nicely maker sure it's all 100%

Looks nice! If it's a bike that isn't used much, make sure to check the tyre pressure. One bar can make a world of difference. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/laugh1.gif