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Old 05-18-2012, 04:51 AM   #1
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Default Facebook Price at $38 ($104Bn)
Anyone getting in on the action? I can't, as we're handling the IPO. Also, who thinks it's worth $104bn?

This is an interesting comparison between Google and FB

http://9to5google.com/2012/05/15/fac...od+and+Evil%29
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:55 AM   #2
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I may be alone with this opinion, but I think facebook will have a pretty big decline in the next few years.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:13 AM   #3
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Nah, Im a bit to defensive in my investing. The cash I have now is waiting for the Grexit.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:20 AM   #4
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100 times revenue? Seriously inflated, but grats to everyone who made serious money out of it.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:55 AM   #5
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I may be alone with this opinion, but I think facebook will have a pretty big decline in the next few years.
I can't see them declining. They are the Google of social networking IMO.

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100 times revenue? Seriously inflated, but grats to everyone who made serious money out of it.
The same argument was touted when Google bought Youtube. Now look at the landscape.

Don't get me wrong, the valuation of Facebook is a gamble which could go either way, but you don't get rich hiding from risks.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:01 AM   #6
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Ah, so nice to see we didn't learn our lesson after the first dotcom bubble.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:12 AM   #7
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Ah, so nice to see we didn't learn our lesson after the first dotcom bubble.
You don't really think the situation these days is anything like the dot com bubble do you? *prays and looks to god*
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:22 AM   #8
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im no expert but i see it to raise for a bit then the bubble will bust perhaps dropping to around 25 per share
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:30 AM   #9
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So in what way do you suggest Facebook will generate revenue? Do you think we will have to look at ads before we view people's profiles? Ads before we view videos with ads on? How about pay to promote your own posts? The latter its already being trialled. There is not much Facebook can do to generate revenue that would not irate its user base. You can skip most YouTube ads after 5 seconds; embedded videos don't normal have pre adverts, just adwords.

100 times revenue, let alone profit, is far inflated to the point of fantasy more than common sense. Google is not a very good base to judge Facebook's value, as it also over valued but has the benefit of having its core business so widespread. Common investment principles don't seem to work with many internet IPOs: it's like the hype on games like Dragon Age 2; it's over priced, poor value for moneyand something you probably should have listened to your gut rather than the kid with BO whose only views on games come from a games magazine.

No doubt Facebook's value will be stable because it's a cool share, just like Apple and Google, but fashions change.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:47 AM   #10
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i trust the real estate market more. we are at the bottum of home and property prices now.it will go up and a home is something you can rent out to pay ya morgage or pay cash for the property or home
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:19 AM   #11
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You don't really think the situation these days is anything like the dot com bubble do you? *prays and looks to god*
I'm talking about Facebook, not "the situation", whatever that means.

And yes, Facebook's valuation exhibits the classic warning signs of a dot com bubble.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:34 AM   #12
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I was going to say 25-29$ a share was more realistic for its IPO. But those stupid private inv. inflating it all the way to 38$? No thanks.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:10 AM   #13
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And yes, Facebook's valuation exhibits the classic warning signs of a dot com bubble.
Nothing like shareholder's demanding profits to run something into the ground. One of the reasons FB is still as popular as it is is because they haven't tried to monetize it in every way possible. That literally just changed. Someone else will come around with a new site with much less adverts, content on making $100's of millions instead of billions and there goes that user base on FB that was worth $100b.

It is not like we literally haven't seen this happen before. There is no way for FB to get the revenue necessary to justify this price without destroying the very thing that made them valuable.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:12 AM   #14
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It's gonna be a scam ... people within the company are already ready to sell their shares.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:33 PM   #15
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I'm talking about Facebook, not "the situation", whatever that means.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:11 PM   #16
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I'm talking about Facebook, not "the situation", whatever that means.

And yes, Facebook's valuation exhibits the classic warning signs of a dot com bubble.
Don't play dumb to try and make me look stupid, you know exactly what I mean by "the situation today", especially when it's in comparison to the dot com bubble.

Sure the share prices might be slightly high at the IPO, but some people can see the value in being part of something over the financial outlay.

Nice bit of sensationalism by the way.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:36 PM   #17
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Mark Zuckerberg should sell it now and start creating something else, cos it won't last forever and eventually it'll probably become worthless or more trouble than its worth.

Maybe he could start investing in space exploration etc like Richard branson, cheap flights to the moon and all that.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:42 PM   #18
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cos it won't last forever and eventually it'll probably become worthless or more trouble than its worth.
What are you basing that on? If we all had that attitude there would be no cars, computers, or aeroplanes.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:46 PM   #19
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no cars, computers, or aeroplanes.
That the most ridiculous analogy I've ever heard.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:15 PM   #20
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That the most ridiculous analogy I've ever heard.
No its not? Calling a good thing "more trouble than its worth" ?
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