[maxfreemann]

Horrible. But still, nothing on Shipman...

[Matajic]

Abortion doctors

[Pdarasenko]

I was thinking of posting something snarky, but instead I'll just

Abortion doctors

+1

[tmobmobfil]

No need to rag on Christians.

[JeorgeNoxeref]

Nannies for children

Legalizing child murder

American Biology Lessons.

Having big government making decisions for private citizens based on religious philosophy.

[bactrimtab]

"There's more oversight for women's hair salons than for abortion clinics in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" - District Attorney Williams.

[Qdcqxffs]

Are late-term abortions illegal in Pennsylvania? That would explain why women are putting up with such treatment

[Amirmsheesk]

Are late-term abortions illegal in Pennsylvania? That would explain why women are putting up with such treatment

Illegal after 24 weeks.

[Karensmith]

Why these women couldn't been get their abortions before 6 months into their pregnancy?

All this still doesn't change the fact that this guy hadn't been inspected in 17 years and that there is no oversight of abortion clinics in PA. That's the opposite of a nannystate.

[Fouttysotlalf]

I can't honestly tell the difference between partial-birth abortion and infanticide. One more inch and it's a baby? What the ****, you just killed a child you sick twisted ****rag.

[tadacia]

I don't think preventing murder makes some place a nanny state. Sounds like the government's doing its job.

[kneexyFreedly]

I can't honestly tell the difference between partial-birth abortion and infanticide. One more inch and it's a baby? What the ****, you just killed a child you sick twisted ****rag.

Yes, let's focus on that like a political idiot.

This is a very important issue, as ~0.15% of abortions in the US are categorized as "partial birth".

[yurawerj]

I don't think preventing murder makes some place a nanny state. Sounds like the government's doing its job.

If it was murder, why isn't it categorized as such under your legislation?

Sounds like somebody has been thoughtlessly sipping the Republican koolaid.

[pageup85]

It is infanticide, Humans have not changed.
I don't see the difference between being a Siberian nomad who kills some of hes offspring after birth for control population because of their estimate of how much food they have available, and some teen from a first world country who has an abortion because she is planning on going to college and having a baby would make things hard for her.

It is killing your offspring because of economic reasons.

And you dont have to be religion to believe that the fetus is a living creature of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens

[Anykeylo]

That's always been the amusing part to me.

The cries that IT'S MURDER. If it was murder, then you wouldn't need legislation to specifically ban it, would you?

You are being amazingly pedantic. Do you even think about this before posting?

+1 to Barnabas.

[attanilifardy]

No, but you are.

Trying to legislate your morals.

We have legislation about morals all over the place. The problem is when you try to legislate about morals that are victimless.

There is a clear victim here! The child is the victim, and you don't think that counts. I do.

[TOPERink]

I've thought a lot about it.

I don't consider a human being a human being until it exists independently. Until then, a fetus a parasitic organism.

I think your arbitrary definition of "life" is simplistic and stupid. Infants need to breastfeed. They are reliant on other's care, they simply exist outside the womb. And yet they are human beings, but a baby six hours from being delivered is not? What the ****?

[JohnfAclambrJA]

I think your arbitrary definition of "life" is simplistic and stupid.

So is yours.

The whole point is that the point of life being determined IS an arbitrary concept, and as such it should not be absolutely legislated.

At what magical point do you believe life begins? And convince me that THAT is not arbitrary.

[Mister.levitra]

It's not a child, and there are many victims even if the fetus comes to term.

Obviously you've never visited an orphanage or knew kids who grew up in the foster care system, which is increasingly overwhelmed with cases as it is. Or you're completely oblivious to the tremendous social costs unwanted children have, not to mention economic costs.

Aha! So you admit, it's all about the economics! It has nothing to do with what you think is a life, and everything to do with what you see as a social burden of unwanted babies. See, this makes me sick. You've decided that these babies shouldn't be allowed to live because their life wouldn't be perfect. It would be inside the walls of an orphanage, or with foster parents, and that'd be horrible! Oh no! Yeah right. Give them a chance. Don't toss them away over convenience.

[rengerts]

I've thought a lot about it.

I don't consider a human being a human being until it exists independently. Until then, a fetus a parasitic organism.

A 1-month premature baby can survive independently and supposedly Kepler and Newton were 7 month gestation babies in the 17th century and they survived.