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gIWnXYkw 09-13-2012 11:01 AM

I'd think a mixture of indoor/outdoor would be best.

You definitely want indoor hitting bays / simulators for when it gets cold, along with 1 or more indoor putting greens. Outdoors, if there's lots of ranges in the area, just having a fantastic chipping green with a bunker and putting green would be enough to draw me. Of course if you can have an outdoor range too, all the better.

If I had a facility near me that had indoor/outdoor plus a good chipping and putting green when it was warm enough, I'd drive a good ways to practice there, since it would have everything in one place.

Oh, and consider offering yearly memberships for those who are really dedicated practicers. It sucks when there's no membership and you have to pay $10 for every bucket of balls.

Vagtlaldo 09-13-2012 02:21 PM

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I'd think a mixture of indoor/outdoor would be best.

You definitely want indoor hitting bays / simulators for when it gets cold, along with 1 or more indoor putting greens. Outdoors, if there's lots of ranges in the area, just having a fantastic chipping green with a bunker and putting green would be enough to draw me. Of course if you can have an outdoor range too, all the better.

If I had a facility near me that had indoor/outdoor plus a good chipping and putting green when it was warm enough, I'd drive a good ways to practice there, since it would have everything in one place.

Oh, and consider offering yearly memberships for those who are really dedicated practicers. It sucks when there's no membership and you have to pay $10 for every bucket of balls.
either a membership or a frequent golfers card or something that entitles em to a bucket after every 10 bought or, having different memberships, ie $350 bucks worth of range balls for say, $200, or $800 for $500...the heated, all-season range by me has 2 different 'golfer card' options and they make out like CRAZY in the winter...and we have 3 (or more) ranges within 10 miles.

Bgfbukpf 09-13-2012 03:56 PM

what would draw me in = three biggest things would be = 1. good winter accomodations, and 2. well maintained and 3. being close to my residence.
I think it obvious that the more you offer, the better you will draw. But of course the more you offer, the bigger the expense and the bigger the risk not to mention more maintainance. Of course also a couple/few local pro's to hook up with for lessons etc ... would be a must for your business.
Good winter accomodations of course very important to try to earn the income in off season but for me and a ton of people it has to be close enough to my residence. I think you have to be really sure of location and population. Are there are enough people in the immediate area that will come in? and I mean enough to earn an income and make it worth your invested money, time and efforts. I say this because too many of us and the general public just do not have the time to go but will do so more often if a facility is close enough. Even a lot of avid golfers simply can not get go to a facility due to time. But if close enough, they will go. Then you have those who golf but dont take it seriously enough to be bothered traveling to a facility. But when close enough to them, will also go and more often. Then also a percentage who will come in and get hooked on golf simply because you are close enough to spark the intrest or to simply come in and have some fun striking balls.
I mention all this because I think in order to be successful IMO you really have to count on all people, serious about golf or not. And having the time to go is an issue for tons. So making sure your investment is in or close enough to a populated enough area that will draw simply due to location convenience is huge factor IMO.
Where I live, one has to drive anywhere fron 25 to 45 minutes to find such places and although in populated areas, these places are still rarely very crowded. So with that said, being in a place that is not very populated can only be worse for you IMO.
Also money is always an issue with most peopkle for anything we do and as someone mentioned above, I think some sort of deals or promotions would help also. Such as (as mentioned) free bucket every so often or whatever etc...
Thats my .02 or 3 or 4
If you do it, I wish you tons of luck and good fortune and hope it will be a very nice place.
I wish you would open up in my immediate area so i can go more often and also get the free one now and then.. LOL

Sandra_18X 09-13-2012 05:31 PM

Outdoor: Range, Putting green, chipping/pitching green, practice bunker, large green with 3-4 flagsticks and 4-5 different tees ranging from 120-220 yards away for practice into a green where you can see how the ball will react on the green with your own ball as opposed to range balls on long grass.

Indoor: Sims, nets w/ Trackman, practice green, pro shop with demo clubs, Training aids for rent, etc...

kathy 09-13-2012 05:40 PM

Indoor/Outdoor

Outdoor
-Well Marked Range w/ fairway & rough lies
-Chipping Green w/lots of variety (fringe, bunkers etc)
-Large Putting green, some level, some undulated things you wish putting greens had
-Practice holes
-Trackman
-Approach green for practicing shots 100yds and in

Inside
-Sims (make sure they are tallll, my dad (6'5") hits the top of ours when he swings)
-Nets
-Launch Monitor
-Fitting station
-Small store (for balls, tees etc)
-Putting green
-If you could chipping green
-Sand
-Lessons
-Demo clubs
-Training Aids


This would be the ultimate place. I realize most of this would not be doable at first, but if it grows, this place would be the bomb.

NEWyear 09-13-2012 05:53 PM

Beer. If you drink beer while playing golf, you should drink beer while practicing. Great slogan BTW.

AntonayPina 09-13-2012 06:16 PM

Simulator is key for me, especially one that I could play 18 on at a great course.

Depending on the size of the facility or building I would love an area I could hit full shots and they actually fly more than a few feet into a net, I don't know if it's 100 yard or maybe 150 yards.

GZFL2tDA 09-13-2012 06:23 PM

I think some events would be fun, watch parties for the local schools football team, closest to the pin contests during the week.

markphata 09-13-2012 10:38 PM

outdoor-

practice green
chipping green
range

indoor-

sims
putting green
small shop
nets

blackjackiisre 09-14-2012 08:37 PM

Where abouts are you? When you get this thing started I'll be your first customer!

whimpykid 09-14-2012 08:48 PM

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I think some events would be fun, watch parties for the local schools football team, closest to the pin contests during the week.
Football in Canada is not what it is in the US. Tyke games in the US get more turnout.









While attending university I studied this concept deeply. Simulators, practice ranges, etc. There is simply not enough diehard fans to make the heavy risk in this less. Sure it can be done, but its a gamble with a large amount of money and it's no project I would ever take on. I dont want to be a downer, but good luck and I wish you the best!

The only idea I can suggest is to partner up with the local courses and generate a reciprocal with them and their members. It will keep monthly revenue flowing and help when your place is in the offseason.

scewDeasp 09-14-2012 08:50 PM

if it's indoor, maybe turf instead of grass..

shihoodiacarf 09-14-2012 09:21 PM

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Simulator is key for me, especially one that I could play 18 on at a great course.

Depending on the size of the facility or building I would love an area I could hit full shots and they actually fly more than a few feet into a net, I don't know if it's 100 yard or maybe 150 yards.
yeah this is a great Idea, I've seen a few ranges that had a nice distance between the net and the "hitting area"' It really made a difference. This is something I'd suggest. if possible

zdoppiklonikaa 09-14-2012 09:44 PM

I'd suggest an arcade or a putt-putt course for children/significant others to play on while Dad or Mom practices. Increased revenue and easier for the golfer to get away if the kids are begging to go do their own thing.

Itrtuawh 09-14-2012 09:55 PM

I think that it might be a good idea to start out as a small gym (at least cardio and machines) in addition to what has been mentioned. It has the ability to draw in the more recreational golfers, since its multi purpose. Some people may just join for the fitness aspect. Since you do seem to have a lot of golf in the area, you could initiate a program to introduce people to fitness through golf.

Also, some sort of discount for junior golfers would be a draw, so that practice time could also be bonding time, reducing the chance of an angry wife when you return home.

Oh, I almost forgot....Golden Tee.

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Buincchotourb 09-14-2012 10:04 PM

I think artificial greens would be key. Bunkers as well and of course the range with artificial greens as targets. A lounge area, refreshments and maybe some soft goods. I'd have a rental club program as well. But I would buy with the idea of expanding outside in the summer or warmer months.

9mm_fan 09-14-2012 11:49 PM

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While attending university I studied this concept deeply. Simulators, practice ranges, etc. There is simply not enough diehard fans to make the heavy risk in this less. Sure it can be done, but its a gamble with a large amount of money and it's no project I would ever take on. I dont want to be a downer, but good luck and I wish you the best!

The only idea I can suggest is to partner up with the local courses and generate a reciprocal with them and their members. It will keep monthly revenue flowing and help when your place is in the offseason.
I have no doubt it will be difficult and expensive, for what little return there might be.

Its really a pipe-dream for me. 2 hours away in Winnipeg, they have stuff like the Golf Dome, with indoor hitting, 2 simulators, mini golf, pro shop, stuff like that. In Brandon (where I am) there is no all-year long facility. Its been a dream for a lot of years, and at a certain point sheer frustration at my current employment might force my hand and prompt me to actually do something towards making it a reality.

ulnanVti 09-14-2012 11:52 PM

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I think artificial greens would be key. Bunkers as well and of course the range with artificial greens as targets. A lounge area, refreshments and maybe some soft goods. I'd have a rental club program as well. But I would buy with the idea of expanding outside in the summer or warmer months.
I would love a set up like the guy on youtube has, can't recall the name, but the British guy with the glasses that does all the reviews. Indoor bay with the wall that moves away so he can see full outdoor ball flight.

A fitness facility concept is actually somewhat of a brilliant tie-in. No one here even sniffs at the fitness aspect of golf.

Knongargoapex 09-14-2012 11:56 PM

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Football in Canada is not what it is in the US. Tyke games in the US get more turnout.









While attending university I studied this concept deeply. Simulators, practice ranges, etc. There is simply not enough diehard fans to make the heavy risk in this less. Sure it can be done, but its a gamble with a large amount of money and it's no project I would ever take on. I dont want to be a downer, but good luck and I wish you the best!

The only idea I can suggest is to partner up with the local courses and generate a reciprocal with them and their members. It will keep monthly revenue flowing and help when your place is in the offseason.
My bad, I didn't notice the Canada part.

lopushok 09-15-2012 02:23 AM

Google Dave Pelz Backyard. It looks like the ultimate practice area to me... (no mowing required)


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