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khjhkfggt 06-30-2012 11:36 PM
Judging your lie
 
Lately when I have been in the rough I've been trying to judge my lie and I've realized very quickly that I have no idea how to judge what the ball is going to do. I have no idea how to see that it could be a flyer, or if its going to sit down a bit and I should grab more club. Obviously when its a terrible lie you can tell but other than that what is it that I'm looking for?

SaLifHoq 06-30-2012 11:39 PM
I look at two important things for myself.

1. Where should I move my hands. If the ball is sitting up I will move them accordingly to make sure I dont catch it heavy. If its sitting down, I do the opposite. Similar to the bunker. We always see people dig in and make themselves lower to the ground, and then forget to move their hands and catch them fat.

2. How clean will the club face be with ball contact. Is there going to be a ton of grass between the ball and the grooves? If so, I might change my club selection since less spin will be coming.

Ganoshenko 06-30-2012 11:39 PM
Great question, as I wonder this myself when my ball is sitting in the rough...

nuncEtedben 06-30-2012 11:40 PM
I find it guilty. every time

khjhkfggt 06-30-2012 11:42 PM
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I look at two important things for myself.

1. Where should I move my hands. If the ball is sitting up I will move them accordingly to make sure I dont catch it heavy. If its sitting down, I do the opposite. Similar to the bunker. We always see people dig in and make themselves lower to the ground, and then forget to move their hands and catch them fat.

2. How clean will the club face be with ball contact. Is there going to be a ton of grass between the ball and the grooves? If so, I might change my club selection since less spin will be coming.
Thanks JB, so if its sitting up a little in the rough and there will be some grass between the club face and the ball then thats where I will see the flyer?

So in this case, grab a little less club, choke down on the grip a little and swing normally.

Ganoshenko 06-30-2012 11:42 PM
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I look at two important things for myself.

1. Where should I move my hands. If the ball is sitting up I will move them accordingly to make sure I dont catch it heavy. If its sitting down, I do the opposite. Similar to the bunker. We always see people dig in and make themselves lower to the ground, and then forget to move their hands and catch them fat.

2. How clean will the club face be with ball contact. Is there going to be a ton of grass between the ball and the grooves? If so, I might change my club selection since less spin will be coming.
Great points, and much simpler than I thought. Thanks, JB!


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I find it guilty. every time
ROFL!!!!

SaLifHoq 06-30-2012 11:47 PM
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Thanks JB, so if its sitting up a little in the rough and there will be some grass between the club face and the ball then thats where I will see the flyer?

So in this case, grab a little less club, choke down on the grip a little and swing normally.
If its sitting up, many times, you can get it clean (but with a little grass in the way) and could see a flier there as well, because the launch is normally a little higher for more carry with little ballooning due to less spin. If the ball is nestled in, you might see a lower shot because the club slows down going through and lots of "debris" can get caught up in the grooves. I recommend with a shot like this taking a firmer grip.

grinaJanoDant 06-30-2012 11:48 PM
Cb I place the club behind the ball. If there are a few blades between the club face and the ball, flyer. If its a larger amount I'm looking at a steeper angle to get it out. Of course if it's a clean lie then it's a normal club with normal swinh

khjhkfggt 06-30-2012 11:50 PM
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If its sitting up, many times, you can get it clean (but with a little grass in the way) and could see a flier there as well, because the launch is normally a little higher for more carry with little ballooning due to less spin. If the ball is nestled in, you might see a lower shot because the club slows down going through and lots of "debris" can get caught up in the grooves. I recommend with a shot like this taking a firmer grip.
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Cb I place the club behind the ball. If there are a few blades between the club face and the ball, flyer. If its a larger amount I'm looking at a steeper angle to get it out. Of course if it's a clean lie then it's a normal club with normal swinh
Thanks guys, it makes a lot of sense when you put it like that. Some if it I have been doing right, and some wrong.

SingleMan 06-30-2012 11:55 PM
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I look at two important things for myself.

1. Where should I move my hands. If the ball is sitting up I will move them accordingly to make sure I dont catch it heavy. If its sitting down, I do the opposite. Similar to the bunker. We always see people dig in and make themselves lower to the ground, and then forget to move their hands and catch them fat.

2. How clean will the club face be with ball contact. Is there going to be a ton of grass between the ball and the grooves? If so, I might change my club selection since less spin will be coming.
Regarding moving hands accordingly on 1, are you saying moving them up and down on the grip or forward and backwards in your stance?

SaLifHoq 07-01-2012 12:03 AM
Up or down on the grip.

SingleMan 07-01-2012 12:05 AM
Okay that is what I thought. Thanks for clarifying there is some good stuff in here I just picked up


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