[sonsayx]

I have been watching the U.S. Open and I have a question. Obviously Tiger has been through a lot with divorce, injuries, swing changes to save his body...but I see these rankings and watch these other golfers...is there really anyone better than him? I just watch Tiger and I see him do things other people can't..maybe my thoughts are flawed but I just think he is still the best golfer in the world..maybe just not as dominant as he was. Thoughts everyone?

[Buincchotourbss]

Yay!!! Tiger threads for everybody.

Tiger still dominates, the Golf News Cycle. Lots of golf to be played yet this weekend. Let's pump the brakes before we all get so excited about a -1, that we can't stand up.

[bQXHsKzS]

*sits back down*

Yay!!! Tiger threads for everybody.

Tiger still dominates, the Golf News Cycle. Lots of golf to be played yet this weekend. Let's pump the brakes before we all get so excited about a -1, that we can't stand up.

[h4z1XBI7]

I have been watching the U.S. Open and I have a question. Obviously Tiger has been through a lot with divorce, injuries, swing changes to save his body...but I see these rankings and watch these other golfers...is there really anyone better than him? I just watch Tiger and I see him do things other people can't..maybe my thoughts are flawed but I just think he is still the best golfer in the world..maybe just not as dominant as he was. Thoughts everyone?

What makes him the best golfer in the world now?
Victories?
Golf Shots?
Best driver?
Best Putter?

I mean what makes you say that he is the best in the world, because while this might change, right now the results say otherwise.

[halfstreet]

Best in the world probably ever - NO DOUBT!

Can he do things others can't? No.

Plenty of guys hit it longer, others putt better, etc... Every golfer out there on tour is a magician around the greens compared to the best players you ever played with. Tiger stands apart for his ability to hit the big shot when it counts the most - he isn't close to doing it every time, but does it way more than anyone else. He also stands apart in focus and will to win. It's yet to be seen if he will return to that dominance, but I for one sure ain't betting against it!

[Zfdeisde]

I have been watching the U.S. Open and I have a question. Obviously Tiger has been through a lot with divorce, injuries, swing changes to save his body...but I see these rankings and watch these other golfers...is there really anyone better than him? I just watch Tiger and I see him do things other people can't..maybe my thoughts are flawed but I just think he is still the best golfer in the world..maybe just not as dominant as he was. Thoughts everyone?

Unlike some others, I'll attempt to answer your question without sarcasm, derision, or judgment.

I think there are some golfers who are better than Tiger at the moment (a lot of golfers are "better" than Tiger if you go solely by the World Rankings). But in terms of overall skill and ability, I think Tiger is still the best golfer in the world as well. He may even be the best golfer in the history of the game when all is said and done.

[h4z1XBI7]

Unlike some others, I'll attempt to answer your question without sarcasm, derision, or judgment.

I think there are some golfers who are better than Tiger at the moment (a lot of golfers are "better" than Tiger if you go solely by the World Rankings). But in terms of overall skill and ability, I think Tiger is still the best golfer in the world as well. He may even be the best golfer in the history of the game when all is said and done.

Here is a novel idea. Let the mods of the site do the moderating and if you want to add to a thread, add your thoughts without ridiculous things like the 1st sentence. We have moderators here to handle things when they get out of line or we feel they should be handled. You continue to call out "judgement" and then do the exact same thing.

Its getting real close, and you might want to pull down the luggage from the closet.

[oranowdenda]

Tiger is still the most talented golf on tour, he just isn't as dominating as he was at one time. They field hasn't caught him, he backed up to the with the choices he made and injuries that both affected his game.

The rest of the players on tour are hoping he never gets all the way back and the Tiger haters like blugold are also in that boat with them. I'll ask it again as I did on a previous thread, if he had played more of the lesser events thru the years how many wins would he have now, 85,90 or more????

[suiviouse]

I don't think Tigger's the best in the world right now. But the way he's playing this year he is working towards it. I wonder if he'll ever reach #1 again.

[Dertrioz]

I think Tiger, at this point, is on an even playing field with everyone else in the field when he plays. Not just at the US Open, but everywhere. Yes, he's won twice this year, but that's not an unheard of feat. Already this year Hunter Mahan and Jason Dufner have won twice, and last year Mark Wilson, Bubba, and somone else I'm forgetting did it too. WAS he the best at one time? Yes. Is he headed back there? Maybe. Is he now? No. He is just as good as anyone else out there.

BDG

[yqpY4iw6]

What makes him the best golfer in the world now?
Victories?
Golf Shots?
Best driver?
Best Putter?

I mean what makes you say that he is the best in the world, because while this might change, right now the results say otherwise.

I'll leave the stats to JB, but THIS YEAR he has as many victories as anyone else...

Golf rankings are kind of reminding me of football... We don't always agree with who is ranked #1. I just hope Tiger isn't teasing us.

[xanonlinexan]

Alan Shipnuck has given him the US Open trophy already. Congrats Tiger!

[h4z1XBI7]

I'll leave the stats to JB, but THIS YEAR he has as many victories as anyone else...

Golf rankings are kind of reminding me of football... We don't always agree with who is ranked #1. I just hope Tiger isn't teasing us.

Yes he does. He has his two victories this year. So that begs the question, if we are ranking them based on results, would he be the best? At best case scenario he would be "one of" right?

[Kamepherype]

I think Tiger's play this year is completely dictated by the golf course. From what I've seen, if he doesn't have to rely on the driver, he's in contention. Every tournament where's he's had to hit it more than once or twice per round, he's struggled.

[yqpY4iw6]

Yes he does. He has his two victories this year. So that begs the question, if we are ranking them based on results, would he be the best? At best case scenario he would be "one of" right?

Yes, at this point I would call him "one of." If he wins the US Open (still a lot of golf to play I know) I would put him up to THE best this year... but I would do the same with Dufner or anyone else who has two wins at this point - which may be an easy call. I think majors should be weighted more, though.

But, I guess the OP was talking best overall versus I'm talking best this year.

I do think Tiger's standards are really high because we compare him to old Tiger. Hasn't Rory already missed more cuts than Tiger did in his entire career? Yet, Rory is considered one of the world's best right now. So, back to JB's "one of" point. I think Tiger is "one of" the best in the world right now. Is he clearly the best? I would ask, who's better?

I'm guilty as one of the one's who thought Rory was the next big thing, but all those missed cuts makes me think he's not better than Tiger is right now. I would argue Dufner is better than Rory right now. I think I'm beginning to like Dufner a lot.

[Valdoyes]

I think Tiger's play this year is completely dictated by the golf course. From what I've seen, if he doesn't have to rely on the driver, he's in contention. Every tournament where's he's had to hit it more than once or twice per round, he's struggled.

Agreed. He is so good hitting his mid to long irons, you would think he would be even more selective about using the driver (like he was in yesterday's round).

[Joircarm]

What makes him the best golfer in the world now?
Victories?
Golf Shots?
Best driver?
Best Putter?

I mean what makes you say that he is the best in the world, because while this might change, right now the results say otherwise.

I am not as big Tiger fan, nothing personal, just not a front runner fan in general. I do see a trend up in his play based on JB's criteria.

#1 Total Driving
#17 GIR
#19 Scrambling
#15 Total Putting
#3 Adjusted scoring Avg.
#4 in the World Rankings

Those are all high points for the "Tiger Slump" according to PGATour.com

[h4z1XBI7]

Good post Large Phil. Do you think based strictly on that, you would call him the best in the world? Certainly one of the best in the world. And perhaps the best ever (in my opinion he is), but even this year it would be hard to call anybody the "best". Last year certainly he wasnt. Neither were the previous 2 years. So if you are going to base it strictly on the current, "one of" seems like a better thought, right?

[Buincchotourbss]

The rest of the players on tour are hoping he never gets all the way back and the Tiger haters like blugold are also in that boat with them. I'll ask it again as I did on a previous thread, if he had played more of the lesser events thru the years how many wins would he have now, 85,90 or more????

lol @ you. I'll bite on the troll bait.

I am quite the opposite of a Tiger hater. I just said to not get too excited about a 1st round tie for second place. This season on the PGA Tour I think he has been the best golfer, he is 3rd in scoring average and 1st in total driver. But he still has to play three more rounds before he can be crowned the 2012 US Open Champion. A lot can still happen.

[Zfdeisde]

Tiger is still the most talented golf on tour, he just isn't as dominating as he was at one time. They field hasn't caught him, he backed up to the with the choices he made and injuries that both affected his game.

The rest of the players on tour are hoping he never gets all the way back and the Tiger haters like blugold are also in that boat with them. I'll ask it again as I did on a previous thread, if he had played more of the lesser events thru the years how many wins would he have now, 85,90 or more????

Easily. But Tiger's made so much money from endorsements alone that the desire or need to play the smaller tournaments simply doesn't exist.