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Old 05-03-2012, 06:40 AM   #1
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I would like you opinion on this. Should the high school golf coach be getting paid to teach one of his team members? Especially this close to the start of the season. Is that cool?
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:44 AM   #2
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There's two thoughts to this for me.

One, if it's separate from the regular golf team and practices, then sure. But,

are you getting paid to be the golf coach? This could also be a conflict to the rest of your players.


So, I guess my answer is, I don't know. haha sorry. Is there anything in your contract or the athletic rules prohibiting this?
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:46 AM   #3
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Not sure about any rules he has to live by. He is getting paid to coach the team of a public school.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:59 AM   #4
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Here in Cheeseland there are limitations to how much a coach can have contact for golfing reasons outside the season. A coach of a girls team in my daughter's conference is a teaching professional. Even though it is his job, he cannot coach players from his team during the off-season, either for free, or for a fee.

Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association rules.

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Old 06-02-2012, 08:08 AM   #5
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No. The football and basketball coaches aren't paid extra for individual instruction.

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Old 06-02-2012, 08:28 AM   #6
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Not paid by the school. By the parents of the team member.
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #7
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Our Lacrosse coach charges for individual lessons and small group lessons outside of practice. Same thing for AAU Basketball. I don't see a conflict of interest, but these are club sports. ESOP has a valid point about rules for contact.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #8
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Not during school hours, and probably not on school grounds, but after hours (unless there is something forbidding it in his contract) I don't see why he shouldn't be able to teach who he too wants for a fee.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:26 PM   #9
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If he is paid by the parents I see no issue with it.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:43 PM   #10
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I believe here in Texas, UIL rules state that a coach may not "coach" an athelete outside of the regular season of said sport. I'm fairly certain that a coach cannot take money from parents in any manner for any reason.

Fact: I know for a fact that as a parent, I cannot have the "basketball team" over to my house for dinner without every player "paying" for the food while he's here. Seriously, each player has to give me like $5 for the food. Before the basketball season started here, we had a coach/parent meeting where we were told all the "rules" about interaction with the players.

My son played Freshman and Sophomore years here, moved back with his mom for Junior year and back here for his Senior season. We've already had an investigation of whether my son was "recruited" back to play varsity for his school. They're pretty serious around here.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:03 PM   #11
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Hello all,
I would like you opinion on this. Should the high school golf coach be getting paid to teach one of his team members? Especially this close to the start of the season. Is that cool?
Absolutely NOT cool. It could be seen as an effort to buy a spot on the team and it could be perceived by other parents as needing to pony up and pay for their kid to get lessons as well. It is an obvious conflict of interest.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:12 PM   #12
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Well, if is before the season he is technically not the coach. If he is giving lessons he should get compensation, especially since he isn't getting paid by the school there. I think it would be nice of him to offer free lessons for his players, but he does have a right to some money for his work. It's really the same as if he was teaching a normal lesson

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Old 06-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #13
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Absolutely NOT cool. It could be seen as an effort to buy a spot on the team and it could be perceived by other parents as needing to pony up and pay for their kid to get lessons as well. It is an obvious conflict of interest.
Although that is a very good point. I wasn't thinking of that

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Old 06-02-2012, 03:40 PM   #14
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I believe here in Texas, UIL rules state that a coach may not "coach" an athelete outside of the regular season of said sport. I'm fairly certain that a coach cannot take money from parents in any manner for any reason.

Fact: I know for a fact that as a parent, I cannot have the "basketball team" over to my house for dinner without every player "paying" for the food while he's here. Seriously, each player has to give me like $5 for the food. Before the basketball season started here, we had a coach/parent meeting where we were told all the "rules" about interaction with the players.

My son played Freshman and Sophomore years here, moved back with his mom for Junior year and back here for his Senior season. We've already had an investigation of whether my son was "recruited" back to play varsity for his school. They're pretty serious around here.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:51 PM   #15
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:36 PM   #16
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The only pro around here who is also a high school coach would never charge extra. He would consider it part of his coaching duties. Those high schoolers don't know how lucky they are to have something like that in rural Iowa.

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:09 PM   #17
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Hello all,
I would like you opinion on this. Should the high school golf coach be getting paid to teach one of his team members? Especially this close to the start of the season. Is that cool?
I think it depends on whether or not they are getting paid to coach. I play with two high school coach's. One is a teacher and he only gets more less a token payment ($2000) to coach the golf team and another is a retired teacher that gets nothing to coach the team.

If it were me, I would just think of working with a golfer on the team outside of everyone else, as part of the job. Coach's should know going in that there will be players that need special attention, but it would still just be part of the job to me. I would not expect to be paid, by the school or the parents for that.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #18
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I think it makes a difference if he was the kid's instructor before they both ended up in the same place at the high school. If it had the effect of buying a spot on the team that would be worse than any official rules infraction in my opinion.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:19 PM   #19
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I think the bottom line is what the High School Athletic Rules articulate in your state. Every state is a little different.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #20
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I know a local softball coach gives pitching lessons here for a fee until those kids are 10th graders, then it is free as part of the team. You also have to watch what you do for free because it then looks like a orginized practice and could be against the rules.


Most of the golf coaches here couldn't break 85, they are just football coaches picking up a extra $500 and getting to play golf for free so I'm guessing you don't want them teaching your kid. Lessons in my area by a PGA pro runs in the $35 to $50 range for a hour, you'd be much better of going to them. The one at the local Country Club has been ranked in the top 100 Junior teachers by Golf Digest and he is in the $50 range.
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