[milfovoxapl]

I was told today that you aren't supposed to post scores from rounds you play on aerated/sanded greens.

OK, they certainly mess up my putting so this makes sense. I also know for example that winter scores are also not used to calculate handicaps in some places like Oregon. Makes me wonder what else could affect my index that isn't accounted for.

For example: windy days definitely make it tougher to score, cold days too (the ball doesn't go as far) not to mention rain. A study found that walking and carrying adds strokes as compared to riding (though it lengthened your life). None of these things get accounted for in handicaps, though in today's world of computers they probably could be.

Should they be? Or for someone who plays a lot, does it all average out?

I know I would feel better after a windy round to see a few net strokes shaved off, what about you?

[DailyRingtone]

I don't think they shave scores off your round if it gets too windy in the British Open...

it is golf, stick it out. you know what you're facing so rise to the challenge.

[milfovoxapl]

I don't think they shave scores off your round if it gets too windy in the British Open...

it is golf, stick it out. you know what you're facing so rise to the challenge.

I get that. But how much harder is it? I don't mind getting beat up when the conditions are less than perfect, but I wouldn't mind having a measuring stick that lets me guage my performance relative to the conditions.

Also, for example, lets say I regularly walk and carry, but ride in tournaments (that allow it) does that give me an advantage?

[QualityReachOut]

I'd just let the weather be weather and such. Play golf around it and do your best. If you feel you played well (regardless of the conditions), then you probably did.

[addyta.org]

In my opinion a handicap is not an indicator of how well you have the potential to play when conditions are perfect. If the handicap plays in a tournament where it's windy or muddy, then rounds played in those conditions should count in the handicap. I personally think putting on punched greens is easier in many cases (provided the holes are filled in well enough).

[addyta.org]

I get that. But how much harder is it? I don't mind getting beat up when the conditions are less than perfect, but I wouldn't mind having a measuring stick that lets me guage my performance relative to the conditions.

Also, for example, lets say I regularly walk and carry, but ride in tournaments (that allow it) does that give me an advantage?

I find I score better when I carry as opposed to ride. I don't know why, but I feel closer to the course and more committed to each shot.

[Plonnikas]

I post all my score regardless unless a round is abbreviated by weather.

[bpejjssoe]

I post everything...aerated greens...in the wind (hell when don't I play in the wind in South Texas), in the rain...in the cold...I post them all.

[ffflyer]

I post everything...aerated greens...in the wind (hell when don't I play in the wind in South Texas), in the rain...in the cold...I post them all.

Yeah, what he said....the reason ppl have screwed hdcps is because they don't post all their scores, they take allowances. If you count them all you'll know what you have the potential of shooting with 6 strokes high or low of your hdcp....IMO


Kongfrontation

[enurneAcourdy]

I was told today that you aren't supposed to post scores from rounds you play on aerated/sanded greens.

OK, they certainly mess up my putting so this makes sense. I also know for example that winter scores are also not used to calculate handicaps in some places like Oregon. Makes me wonder what else could affect my index that isn't accounted for.

For example: windy days definitely make it tougher to score, cold days too (the ball doesn't go as far) not to mention rain. A study found that walking and carrying adds strokes as compared to riding (though it lengthened your life). None of these things get accounted for in handicaps, though in today's world of computers they probably could be.

Should they be? Or for someone who plays a lot, does it all average out?

I know I would feel better after a windy round to see a few net strokes shaved off, what about you?

Weather is just part of golf. Course conditions such as the aeration of greens make for unusual course conditions hence no posting of scores. This is pretty common.

Can you provide a link to your comments about walking versus riding? I'm not sure I believe that statement. I suppose it depends on who one chooses to be part of the study.

[Gorlummm]

Yeah, what he said....the reason ppl have screwed hdcps is because they don't post all their scores, they take allowances. If you count them all you'll know what you have the potential of shooting with 6 strokes high or low of your hdcp....IMO


Kongfrontation

Im with Tadashi. I post every single score.

[rarpAcconavox]

I posted my score when our greens were aerated. Heck I had an eagle on a par 4 the day they were aerating. Of course I hit a rock while putting which threw my ball sideways too but I counted every stroke. As much as I play, one round isn't going to stay there long anyway. I enter all my scores, good or bad. I feel like my handicap is as true as it gets.

[cliceperperIa]

Im with Tadashi. I post every single score.

me too. every &#@* one of them.

[Prealiitellg]

I post all my scores. Gotta take the good with the bad. Picking and choosing which rounds to post is cheating as much as not counting strokes.

[HedoShoodovex]

Here in the UK we have to put up with more than our fair share of crap weather. This, along with any hollow tyning & top dressing of the greens will have a dramatic effect on one's handicap.

The golfer who plays in a consistently low wind, low rain area with great greens will generally have a handicap that reflects their actual playing ability better than someone who has inconsistent weather patterns etc. However, the guy who can keep a good handicap in these inconsistent weather areas will, I would have thought, be generally of a slightly higher standard than someone off the same handicap from good weather areas.

For these reasons I feel that it is important that all golfers put as many scores in each year as they possibly can. No matter what the conditions are like. At least by doing that you are then not fooling yourself about how well you are currently playing. If it were up to me then anyone completing 18 holes should be compelled to hand their score in. That way we would be able to some extent rid the game of the 'competition baggers' who protect their handicaps whilst they improve just so that they are able to win major prizes in Open competitions at other clubs.

[texbrease]

Golf is an outdoor sport.

[milfovoxapl]

Can you provide a link to your comments about walking versus riding? I'm not sure I believe that statement. I suppose it depends on who one chooses to be part of the study.

http://golf.about.com/od/fitnessheal...lfphysical.htm

A small study, but it suggests carying your bag can add as much as 5 strokes in 9 holes vs. using a pushcart.

I agree about posting everything, and the way the system works those rounds in bad conditions probably won't be a factor in a players index since it only uses the best scores.

I was looking at my score history and the scores from last years Bandon trip jumped out. We played in 40mph wind driven hail. The caddy had told us a touring pro wouldn't have broken 90 in those conditions. We noted they would be smart enough to stay inside.

[vipBrooriErok]

Yeah, what he said....the reason ppl have screwed hdcps is because they don't post all their scores, they take allowances. If you count them all you'll know what you have the potential of shooting with 6 strokes high or low of your hdcp....IMO


Kongfrontation

I completely agree here. I post all scores unless I am playing alone, where I usually play multiple balls (assuming no one is behind me). My worst scores of the season were at Bandon Dunes, where weather is ALWAYS a factor, and I actually thought I played decent.

[vipBrooriErok]

Golf is an outdoor sport.

Ha ha ha. YES! Plain and simple. Well put.

[Progniusis]

I post all legit scoring rounds. That way the good, the bad, and the ugly all wash out in the end.