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Old 11-08-2009, 07:11 AM   #21
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I don't pull it unless I'm play with a group that does.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:18 AM   #22
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I hate it when people carelessly gack the grass on the lip with the flagstick.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:10 AM   #23
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Generally, the closest to the pin takes it out and the first to hole out picks it up and replaces it when the last putt has fallen. I also have a pet peeve about dropping it from 5ft onto a green. If possible, I like to see the pin put on the collar instead of on the green surface and if it is put on the green that it be done gently. I don't know how many flagstick shaped indentions I have seen in the greens over the years. No need for it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:41 AM   #24
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I also have a pet peeve about dropping it from 5ft onto a green. If possible, I like to see the pin put on the collar instead of on the green surface and if it is put on the green that it be done gently. I don't know how many flagstick shaped indentions I have seen in the greens over the years. No need for it.
Me too C-tech, on the collar. Indentations not only throwing the flag down, but holding it up and leaning on it.

I don't pull it unless I'm play with a group that does.
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You know it's a 2 stroke penalty if your ball is on the green and it goes in the hole while the pin is in, right?

I mean, if you are out for a casual round and no one cares, it's no big deal. But if you are keeping score . . .

17-3. Ball Striking Flagstick or Attendant

The player's ball must not strike:

a. The flagstick when it is attended, removed or held up;
b. The person attending or holding up the flagstick or anything carried by him; or
c. The flagstick in the hole, unattended, when the stroke has been made on the putting green.

Exception: When the flagstick is attended, removed or held up without the player's authority - see Rule 17-2.

Penalty for Breach of Rule 17-3:
Match play - Loss of hole; Stroke play - Two strokes and the ball must be played as it lies.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:54 PM   #25
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That's my feeling too. Unless someone walks by it and pulls it, the last person to putt pulls the pin, and the first person to hole out is responsible for replacing it.
I hate playing in groups that the first person never thinks about picking up the pin and at times leaves it for the last guy to putt.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:57 PM   #26
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I don't understand the people who pull the flagstick, then drop it with a bang on the green. These are usually the same people complaining about ball marks.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:02 PM   #27
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I don't understand the people who pull the flagstick, then drop it with a bang on the green. These are usually the same people complaining about ball marks.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:07 PM   #28
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Since most of the time I play either by myself or just one or two people I usually pull the pin.........though I might add that except for when I play by myself obviously or with my father I am also "usually" closest to the pin...........
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:41 PM   #29
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Since most of the time I play either by myself or just one or two people I usually pull the pin.........though I might add that except for when I play by myself obviously or with my father I am also "usually" closest to the pin...........
One thing I read once said that the average first putt for pretty much all players is about the same regardless of skill level. Better players hit greens in fewer shots from further away and hence tend to be further away than you might expect. For an 18 handicap who is missing many of the greens, then chipping on, their average first putt is about the same as Tiger's who is hitting most of the greens in regulation. The actual number is something like 18-20 feet I think. For the pros, that's a mixture of maybe 25-30 feet on greens hit from some distance away and 3-5 feet on greens hit from the fringe or thereabouts. For the 18 handicap it might be 40 feet on greens hit from range and 10 feet on greens hit from the fringe or similar. The higher number of greens hit from the fairway for the pro accounts for the higher weighting on that figure.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:33 AM   #30
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I like to pull the stick, because then I can look at my putt from behind the hole without holding anyone else up. I pull it when playing alone, for that reason (even though my little muni isn't even rated).

If I'm carrying wedges to the green, I put them down across the stick so I don't forget them. As a result, I (or whoever in my group is doing the same) usually replaces the stick.
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