[DailyRingtone]

I find that you don't have to equal in ability either. I've played golf at many courses and with many types of people. Some had filthy money and some didn't. Most people, when they find out you are a beginner have no problem because even though you are not equal now at one time in their golf they were in the same place as you and they seem to have great respect if you show seriousness for game. REAL golfers seem to be some of the best people in the world. 19th hole? Why would I want to kick it with Bill Gates or the like. I am much more comfortable with my own.

p.s. most of them fools only beat you by a handful of strokes anyway no matter how prestigious they are


...as for women...I love playing with women...

[bF8CCmmr]

I see your point, Diane. It is true, we've had many stories on the forum of men giving far superior golfer women crummy advice because they assume the girls need any advice at all, or crummy service in stores, or that kind of thing. But I think it's the equalizer because the potential is there. Since you play against yourself in golf, and it requires skill over brute strength, even when I may feel behind, I still feel like it's possible one day to do really well.

[Qvqnubpj]

I also agree with Diane on this topic. I often hear guys say that they do not want woman to play in tournaments. There is certainly a bias there. Although I will say, that seems to be a generational thing. Meaning that I rarely hear the younger men saying that kind of thing. So maybe in a few years that bias will be reduced.

Personally, I would like to see more women play and compete.

As for the janitor and CEO I wonder what is meant by equal. They have a discussion on the golf course? A beer? Not sure a having either of those makes them equal. What is meant by equal. Maybe I am slow, but this isn't clear to me.

[natahololll]

I play golf with our VP, almost on a weekly basis. We are fairly equal in skill (I like to think I have more than he does, but don't tell him that). The course is the only place where the walls come down and we can both BS and talk trash to one another. Once we're back in the office, we both know where the line is drawn.

He too places a BIG emphasis on golf and the workplace.

[natahololll]

I see your point, Diane. It is true, we've had many stories on the forum of men giving far superior golfer women crummy advice because they assume the girls need any advice at all, or crummy service in stores, or that kind of thing. But I think it's the equalizer because the potential is there. Since you play against yourself in golf, and it requires skill over brute strength, even when I may feel behind, I still feel like it's possible one day to do really well.

Diana/Jill,
If that is the case, the women should call shananigans and tell the men to shut the "F" up and play ball.

[zbckFNlW]

Well all I can add is that I have had the distinct privilege of playing with Lorena Ochoa when she was on the U of A women's team and she is EXTREMELY fun to play with to boot! Little quiet at first but after I took an 18 on a very difficult par 5 at Oro Valley CC, she actually congratulated me for finishing the hole and not giving up since I was playing with her, and one of their coaches or trainer I forget which!

From that point on they could tell I was REALLY intimidated, mainly because I was not at their level (High School Junior with a 16 HC) regardless of their gender, so they started to play around a little and see who could have the most sand saves, tree hits etc and still shoot low! Easily in the top 5 of my favorite golf outings for me EVER! Plus she has a great fluid swing and even with her not trying to hit greens she KILLED me! I actually am proud of the fact that I got her autograph BEFORE she made it big and whenever I am in the area of a LPGA where she is at I go to support her!

Just 3 months ago I also got the honor to play with Roger Clemens when he came down to see his son play for the CC Hooks, and same thing although this time HE hit it waaaaay right on #10 (Northshore CC Portland, TX).......he looks to my dad and I and says, "Wow the wind is really strong today huh?" Then his wife speaks up from the cart, "No honey you hit that god-AWFUL!" ROFL, my dad and I didn't know what to do............

Yet it was just fun to see how on the course walking to balls etc you just naturally talk with people who might/might not be famous yet you get to know them a little! So I would agree with the OP, and as far as women golfing go I am ALL for it, go get some, Ooh Rah! I for one LOVE it when a couple guys I know go pummeled by some of the solid women golfers I know down here! Heck I like good competition, period since I play up or down to my playing partners ability. Concentrate more with golfers better than I simply because I like to compete.