[Kneedycrype]

Can people please stop bickering about "oh! this might be a salafi institute" ???

This is indeed a crisis and if we don't act upon it, many of our brothers/sisters will fall into ridda.

[durootrium]

Can people please stop bickering about "oh! this might be a salafi institute" ???

This is indeed a crisis and if we don't act upon it, many of our brothers/sisters will fall into ridda.

thanks for informing but nobody is bickering. the brother was only informing that it was a salafi institute.

[GlarlraTpople]

thanks for informing but nobody is bickering. the brother was only informing that it was a salafi institute.

Apologies if I came across a bit harsh. I wasn't only talking about this thread....

[Eugen80]

Source?

I have my doubts about the statistic...I have NOT been able to find anything to corroborate the statistic of 2 million leaving per year or that Indonesia will stop being a Muslim country by 2035.

[Candykiss]

Source?

I have my doubts about the statistic...I have NOT been able to find anything to corroborate the statistic of 2 million leaving per year or that Indonesia will stop being a Muslim country by 2035.

Please email the Save Maryam campaign on their website. They have a facebook group as well.

[jessyhalm]

Please email the Save Maryam campaign on their website. They have a facebook group as well.

Tried that already.

[jokiruss]

Also I got to say, this is a very creepy sounding video. Making Christians sound like jinns. Is an Islamic tv channel a solution that will work? Or is it the easy solution?

And if anything, it will probably bolster and encourage Christian evangelicals that the Muslims are afraid now...

[omaculer]

Nauzubilla! Muslims converting Christianity!!! This is bad very very very bad. What Indonesia government doing? What aalim and imam in Indonesia doing?? Very amazing video Muslim country should tell Indonesia stop this or else!! throw out this pig Christians they can go to their America or Singapore or wherever. And also Indonesia no have Sharia?? all convert give Sharia punishment.. Murtadd get death all 2 million give warning come Islam or go hell!!!! This is baaaad. I hear in India also this happen but here Hindu convert muslim girl and government Hindu. But Indonesia is MUSLIM! Shocking!

My question is, how could Save Maryam claims 2 millions Muslims in Indonesia convert to Christianity every year ????

I am living in Indonesia, and I always observe Muslim life in Indonesia. I know the situation here.

[illiniastibly]

Tawfique Chowdhury :
Salam all, M kotb Mousa and Michael A Gatto - the figures are drawn from various PEW reports and the international Crisis organisation reports along with confirmed research on the ground in indonesia from local partners including the largest islamic organisation - Muhammadiyyah of Indonesia. There is nothing fake about Christianisation in indonesia - it is rampant and moving at a scale faster than you can imagine. As for social dislocations - how does sectarian beheadings and infightings do for you - if you go to indonesia you will find the Nadwatul Mujahideen who are essentially vigilantees that carry swords and spears to behead those that convert to Christianity. It is a mess there - and you will only find this when you visit and research the true state of Indonesia on the ground. Wallahu Alim.


p.s source

[MARMELADINA]

fishy! maybe Shaikh Tawfique just wants to send a shipload of green zone scholars/dae'ees? Wallahu Alam.

[envenonearo]

Tawfique Chowdhury :
Salam all, M kotb Mousa and Michael A Gatto - the figures are drawn from various PEW reports and the international Crisis organisation reports along with confirmed research on the ground in indonesia from local partners including the largest islamic organisation - Muhammadiyyah of Indonesia. There is nothing fake about Christianisation in indonesia - it is rampant and moving at a scale faster than you can imagine. As for social dislocations - how does sectarian beheadings and infightings do for you - if you go to indonesia you will find the Nadwatul Mujahideen who are essentially vigilantees that carry swords and spears to behead those that convert to Christianity. It is a mess there - and you will only find this when you visit and research the true state of Indonesia on the ground. Wallahu Alim.


p.s source

Christianisation happen in Indonesia, but Islamisation too. There are Muslims who convert to Christianity, but not so much like Save Maryam claim. Also, there are Christians who convert to Islam every year. So, percentage of Muslims in Indonesia is always stable year by year.

I never heard about Nadwatul Mujahideen. Issue about Muslim vigilantees that behead those who convert to Christianity is a rumor that created by Christian missionaries.

Muhammadiyah is the second largest Muslim organisation that followed by less than 20% percent of Muslims in Indonesia. This is an organization that established based on Pan Islamia concept from Rashid Rida, Muhammad Abduh, Jalaludin Al Afghani. But I am not sure Muhammadiyah claims 2 millions Muslims leave Islam every year in Indonesia.


I don't understand why Save Maryam spread a rumor like this and make Indonesian Muslims look bad in international eyes.

[nanyaHgoc]

When will we understand this is not merely a rumour?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...982223,00.html

There is also coverage on Ramadan TV, who are affiliated with Al Kauthar institute. So it has the backing of scholars

[Daleman1984]

fishy! maybe Shaikh Tawfique just wants to send a shipload of green zone scholars/dae'ees? Wallahu Alam.

There you go. This is what I was saying when I said "bickering". Green zone scholars/da'ees - what a contemptuous way to describe people who can help prevent ridda...

[abOfU9nJ]

FAKE ALERT!

A Video by the name of SAVEMARYAM (#SAVEMARYAMISFAKE) is a propaganda video which is actually created only to promote the myth that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam each year but is actually seems to be made to promote Christianity.

Shame on those who created this video and are manipulating viewers by out right lying to them that some how they are trying to save Islam where as they are simply trying to spread the misinformation that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam. If you pay close attention you will see that the commentator is actually mocking Islam and promoting Christianity.

[11Woxsepmoomo]

FAKE ALERT!

A Video by the name of SAVEMARYAM (#SAVEMARYAMISFAKE) is a propaganda video which is actually created only to promote the myth that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam each year but is actually seems to be made to promote Christianity.

Shame on those who created this video and are manipulating viewers by out right lying to them that some how they are trying to save Islam where as they are simply trying to spread the misinformation that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam. If you pay close attention you will see that the commentator is actually mocking Islam and promoting Christianity.

this is slander sir.
hamza tzortzis also appeared with them in a video. mercyworldmission and al kauthar institute are all promoting Christianity?

[zatronanec]

FAKE ALERT!

A Video by the name of SAVEMARYAM (#SAVEMARYAMISFAKE) is a propaganda video which is actually created only to promote the myth that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam each year but is actually seems to be made to promote Christianity.

Shame on those who created this video and are manipulating viewers by out right lying to them that some how they are trying to save Islam where as they are simply trying to spread the misinformation that 2 Million Muslims are leaving Islam. If you pay close attention you will see that the commentator is actually mocking Islam and promoting Christianity.

#SaveMaryam an initiative of www.mercymissionworld.com, a reputable Muslim charity organisation.

The video was created by http://theplaystudio.com/ who does a lot of Muslim charity design work.

Still think it's fake? Then visit this Christian site to see what they doing to the Muslim lands: http://www.pioneers.org/multiply/indonesia.aspx

[leflyCode]

many people complained there was 'music' in the video. i think someone did beat-boxing really really well

[nicktender]

many people complained there was 'music' in the video. i think someone did beat-boxing really really well

It starts off saying "no music" so we can only assume it was beat boxing or other man made sounds

Br. Xtreme - Please verify your sources before you post stuff like that.

[hoconnor6605]

Assalam O Alaikum!

Well, I don't make a post just to increase my post counts!
I do have a source but I won't gonna post it. As, you people will not agree over that and then I know as a trend, Page 1 of 1000

JazakAllah Kher & happy Ramadan!

[Bgfbukpf]

Assalam O Alaikum!

Well, I don't make a post just to increase my post counts!
I do have a source but I won't gonna post it. As, you people will not agree over that and then I know as a trend, Page 1 of 1000

JazakAllah Kher & happy Ramadan!

can i see the source?