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We have very few Islamic institutions around us.
Governments are mostly democracies or any way non-Islamic or non-Muslim.
Banks are all based on riba.
Armed forces are all western style.
Companies and charities too are of the same style.
Islamically speaking we have only madarsas and few Jama-ats like Tablighi Jamaat etc.
The question is what Islamic institutions can be easily established to strengthen Ummah and to make it easy for Muslims in the worldly life so as to prepare for the hereafter. As well as to make it easy for new coming reverts.

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we have very few islamic institutions around us.
Governments are mostly democracies or any way non-islamic or non-muslim.
Banks are all based on riba.
Armed forces are all western style.
Companies and charities too are of the same style.
Islamically speaking we have only madarsas and few jama-ats like tablighi jamaat etc.
The question is what islamic institutions can be easily established to strengthen ummah and to make it easy for muslims in the worldly life so as to prepare for the hereafter. As well as to make it easy for new coming reverts.

good point but we also have many instituteS which are safe from these all things,so try to help them atleast with duas

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good point but we also have many instituteS which are safe from these all things,so try to help them atleast with duas

May Allah grant barakah in all existing Islamic institutions and protect them from evil glances.
Ameen.

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Remain firm on our Deen and just keep working to implement it. Besides the obvious, the difference between Muslims/Islamists & the secular/moderate/military (whatever they happen to be) leaders, is their resolve in ensuring once they get to power, they STAY there. That entails consolidating power at every level, most importantly the armed forces and intelligence services - because without full control of these two arms of defense, you are not going to last long at all. Actually, in this day and age, if you do not move to take control of those two arms - they will undermine you (as we see in Egypt) and may ultimately lead to downfall.

Ever notice how the military-leaders of Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey (and certain other Muslim nations) are always hopping over to consult US/NATO partners whenever there is a crisis at home that befalls them? All of this done out of sight and with little if any instruction from the national leaders. They act like a fifth column, a state within a state.

Problem is, you cannot remove these individuals without massive reprecussions. The alternative? ......Just keep working as peacefully as possible to implement reform along the lines of Sharia. If you try to take them on, Algeria style bloodshed will ensue - it won't be instigated from the so-called 'Islamists', rather the two crucial arms of defense I mention above - done in order to make the people cower away from Islam. Sincerity in duaa and Peaceful means towards reforms is the only way - anything else will lead to carnage and longterm devastation.

Allahu A'lam

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The bit in bold is the important bit, ignore the rest. As Muslims we should not be fighting against the existing state and its order, just build our own institutions and ways inside of the existing shell. Appoint a leader, get them to Take our Zakaat. Mint Gold and Silver coins and start to use them for Zakkat payments and re-distribute them to Zakaat receipients, have Muslims accept the Silver and Gold coins for trade. The more that start doing this the more power they will gain and no violence will be necessary. Violence only empowers the current order. We should not use the word 'state' with Islam. State means a very powerful centralized government which practices riba with a central bank. Islam is government without state.

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Muslim Institutions Targeted (Old Thread)

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Muslim Institutions Targeted (Old Thread)

ALIGARH MUSLIM UNIVERSITY & JAMIA MILLILA ISLAMI FOR MUSLIM IN INDIA

You can add more name to list of Islamic Institution in India.

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So how can this monster be destroyed? You work on yourself, the people around you, you form communities, you build institutions like a baitul mal (Treasuary), you appoint a leader who will govern the community, he appoints Zakaat collectors. You build halal markets where rents are not charged, you start to use gold and silver currencies and at all costs you avoid any violence or conflict with the Democratic State. As the monetary and financial system of the Democratic State starts to break up...more and more people will be drawn to the sanity of the Muslims, when chaos and the breakdown of State laws occurs, Muslims will still abide by the laws of the Shariah, we will nor murder and loot...we will be an oasis of peace and security and our markets and ways will begin to thrive.

This is excellent but how do we even begin when there is so much disunity and mistrust amongst Muslims. Muslims trust kafirs over Muslim organisations, how are they going to select ameers and communities to hand over their money to - how to develop trust, confidence in motivation in such radical proposals. People may hate government but they still trust it with their security especially financial. Also stuff like markets without charging rent etc. will fall foul of government laws at some stage - the government is not going to allow people to be independent of them especially where money is concerned - this is one of the reasons for the massive drives against cash in hand, so that eveything is electronic and has to go through banks.

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