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07-28-2010, 06:41 AM
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 things we say in Salah
Salam, is saying
"Rabbighfirli warhamni” (O My Lord! Forgive me! and have mercy on me) between prostrations a fard part of the Salah? I have been praying for years and recently just read about this, are all my prayers invalid? or is this a Sunnah part of Salah? w/s |
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07-28-2010, 06:46 AM
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 I saw this on the "Let's Pray DVD", being circulated by many Salafis, not sure. |
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07-28-2010, 07:32 AM
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Salam, is saying  According to the Hanbali madhab it is a obligatory action (at minimum to recite the supplication رب اغفر لي once) see page 1 and onwards of this PDF: http://www.ibnfarooq.com/Lessons/Lesson37[1].pdf but if it is left out forgetfully it can be compensaded by making sajdah sahw. I had always wondered why the Hanafis don't say anything between the sujud, since according to them one should sit still motionless for the duration of saying once "SubhanAllah", by reciting once or as in the hadith twice "Rabbighirli" this duration is fulfilled. But they dont recite it and most of them don't even sit still motionless in between the sujud, rather they come up from the sujud and go down again in one movement. And such performed salaah is not valid according to the Malikis, Shafis, Hanbalis and according to Abu Yusuf.
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07-28-2010, 09:18 AM
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You don't need to recite the dua in accordance with the Hanafi madhab, hence your salat is valid. As far as I know the two sajdas are compulsory and as long as one lifts up from sajda so that he is closer to the sitting position than the sajda position, before going into prostration for the next sajda, then his salat will be considered valid. May a more knowledgeable brother correct me if I am wrong, but this is my understanding of the issue.
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07-28-2010, 09:32 AM
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I had always wondered why the Hanafis don't say anything between the sujud, I am not sure why you say this; I have been taught to say the du'a (a bit longer) since childhood.
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07-28-2010, 11:01 AM
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Not wajib (maybe not even sunna) according Hanafis and Malikis.
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07-28-2010, 11:50 AM
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Salam, is saying Sister , are you still in confused.com or learning.com?  Sorry, i just wanted to know how are you progressing in your understanding of the deen.... |
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07-28-2010, 02:47 PM
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Salam, 
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07-28-2010, 02:48 PM
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I read quite afew ways of reading Salah, and half say you have to read it otherwise your prayer is invalid and the others don't even mention it!
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07-28-2010, 05:38 PM
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lol, sis, i'm still confused, but slowly getting out of it, bits and bobs still bug me alot, and learning is proving abit more difficult as it just makes me feel so overwhelmed. But insha'Allaah i'm hopeful I can overcome all the doubts. Thanks for asking |
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07-28-2010, 08:47 PM
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My dear Brothers and Sisters.
Do you know why there is so many duas etc that we say in salah? Why there is so many versions? Because hz. Resulullah Sallallahu Aleyhi wa Sallam used all of them. for example if you say in sajda "Subhana Rabbi al 'ala" 3X you can add for example "Rabbi ghfir lii wa 'ala alideyna". According too views of Shia 'Ali only sura Fatiha in first two rakats is fard, rest doesn;t have to exactly the same. In most cases this thinking is... right! In every sunni mazhab there is a little bit vesrion of taslim (at the end of salah). Why? Because hz. Resulullah (Sallallahu Aleyhi wa Sallam) was using several versions. He was using his own dua'a (what he needed at the moment) in e.g. sajda, ruku, etc This variety is mercy of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala given to us. |
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07-29-2010, 10:18 AM
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Just make it obligatory for yourself to recite it twice i.e. Rabbigfirli, Rabbigfirli to be on the safe side according to all. |
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10-19-2010, 05:20 AM
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my brothers and sisters, wat are you talking about, madhhabs, write or wrong, valid or invalid. common my fellow muslim first of all there is nothing such as madhhabs in islam, in the quran god has mentioned only islam not madhhabs, there is no ayah written regarding madhhabs this is the game of scholars, prophet preached islam and not madhhabs stop confusing muslims with madhhabs, there is only one religion and that is islam and islam doesnt have branches.
regarding wrong and right, valid and invalid, no one can decide about that except ALLAH (S.W.T) so stop judging each other only god can decide humans dont have that knowledge. only god knows that your prayer is right or wrong. and no one in us was alive during prophet so we dont know if this are the right hadiths or wrong, my muslims fellows please just learn arabic and then read quran if you wanna know something quran is the only guider nothing else. |
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10-19-2010, 05:25 AM
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dear brother i think u r fogetting prophet was reading only wat he was been commanded/given by god and not his own duas or words. or u dont know that. watever prophet said was from god and not from himself. please stop following scholars find for yourself, lear arabic and then you do your research, dont just follow. thats my advise. read and understand quraan, its the only guidance and way of life
My dear Brothers and Sisters. |
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10-19-2010, 05:30 AM
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my sister please give us the proof of quran not quotes. as god says quran is the guider not quotes (hadithes, wat is hadiths (quotes) are they the saying of god like quran, NO. so please dont give the proofs of quotes, give the proof from quran, quotes are the game of scholars prophet was given quran and not quotes, common muslim open your eyes and ears. quran is the only book not quotes and islam is the only religion and islam doesnt have branches.
I read quite afew ways of reading Salah, and half say you have to read it otherwise your prayer is invalid and the others don't even mention it! |
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10-19-2010, 05:43 AM
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dear brother, there is no malik or hanafis. there are only muslim, and there is only one religion, ISLAM, there are no madhhabs. can u tell me wher in the quran they mention about shia or sunni. open your eyes and ears we are been programmed by scholars. find out yourself my brother in islam.
Not wajib (maybe not even sunna) according Hanafis and Malikis. |
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10-19-2010, 02:00 PM
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Salam, is saying For the Hanafis, it is merely mustahabb. Leaving it out does not affect your prayer. So don't worry. 
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07-06-2011, 03:01 PM
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The recitation of this supplication was the practice of ﷺ﴾ ﴿ ﷲ رسول till until he left this world. And He ﷺ﴾ ﴿ ordered us in to pray as we have seen him pray. Narrated by al-Bukhārī. i couldnt find this in saheeh bukhari. can anyone confirm if its there?and what supplication is mentioned here exactly? just because hanbali ulema have agreed upon this doesnt make this wajib. and why have the saheeh hadith not have any referneces if they are sahih?take the first hadith on the first page for example. which book is it form? i'll be glad if the guy himself can answer these. |
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