[MgpojuWy]

Salam, I've recently started reading this book. I have an English translation of it and it's probably the best book on the sahaba i've read. However, i'd like to know how authentic it is. I typed it on to google and there were quite a few ahle-hadith forum people belittling it (as they do). I'd recommend the book to anyone, especially if your imans quite weak.

[soyclocky]

Salam, I've recently started reading this book. I have an English translation of it and it's probably the best book on the sahaba i've read. However, i'd like to know how authentic it is. I typed it on to google and there were quite a few ahle-hadith forum people belittling it (as they do). I'd recommend the book to anyone, especially if your imans quite weak.

Source for every incident has been given in the book itself. Who ever wants can check out the authenticity.

[TolleyBoymn]

Salam, I've recently started reading this book. I have an English translation of it and it's probably the best book on the sahaba i've read. However, i'd like to know how authentic it is. I typed it on to google and there were quite a few ahle-hadith forum people belittling it (as they do). I'd recommend the book to anyone, especially if your imans quite weak.

Its a really good book, As the brother mentioned above, all the sources are mentioned in the book itself.

[ffdfriendforurr]

It is a good book, and whether or not the narrations are weak is not especially relevant if it is being used for historical information. Just don't go around basing ahkam on the narrations (not that you're qualified to do that anyway) and you're golden.

[SzefciuCba]

Salam`Aleykum,

It is a collection of narrations, some of them are authentic and some are not. If you are interested in a specific narration and you wish to know its authenticity then you have to ask qualified scholars and other Muslims.

[MgpojuWy]

Yeh, I've just realised that the source of narrations are given at the bottom of each page, and a lot of them are declared as saheeh or reliable. There's a lot of stuff i found interesting, such as angels fighting alongside the Muslims on the battlefield, and general narrations to do with the unseen, a lot of which is authentic.

[MasdMnPa]

Yeh, I've just realised that the source of narrations are given at the bottom of each page, and a lot of them are declared as saheeh or reliable. There's a lot of stuff i found interesting, such as angels fighting alongside the Muslims on the battlefield, and general narrations to do with the unseen, a lot of which is authentic.

Angles fighting alongside: Can u believe that it can happen even today.? Yes, once my friend said d incident of his village which took place due to quarrel on land area of Mandir(temple) and Masjid which reminds me of battle of Badr. Muslims were 72 men and 1 women(was above 50 & she use to collect stones which was d only weapon for us), and Hindus were approx 9000 to 10,000 in number and were equipped wit sword, base-ball sticks etc. . Quarrel stops when police got involved in wit air firing, tear gas and all and arrested ppl from both sides. He also say dat even today if sometime discussion on abv incident comes wit our hindu bro's dey say, u ppl r saying lie if not den v could had finished(vanished) u if u were not so much in number on dat day. When enquired on our total strength, dey wil say around 15,000 to 20,000, but in reality v were as said above.
Subhanalla.

[MasdMnPa]

Angles fighting alongside: Can u believe that it can happen even today.? Yes, once my friend said d incident of his village which took place due to quarrel on land area of Mandir(temple) and Masjid which reminds me of battle of Badr. Muslims were 72 men and 1 women(was above 50 & she use to collect stones which was d only weapon for us), and Hindus were approx 9000 to 10,000 in number and were equipped wit sword, base-ball sticks etc. . Quarrel stops when police got involved in wit air firing, tear gas and all and arrested ppl from both sides. He also say dat even today if sometime discussion on abv incident comes wit our hindu bro's dey say, u ppl r saying lie if not den v could had finished(vanished) u if u were not so much in number on dat day. When enquired on our total strength, dey wil say around 15,000 to 20,000, but in reality v were as said above.
Subhanalla.

Done wit necessary correction by editing above post

[NickGrass]

Shaykh GF Haddad:

"The lives of the Sahaba by al-Kandihlawi is a masterpiece."

[bpejjssoe]

I have met the scholar who provided the commentary on the narrations collection of Hayatus Sahabah at the bottom. He is the Sheikhul Hadith in NizamUddin and teaches Bukhari.

That said not all the narrations are proven to be authentic (please note the use of the word narrations and not hadith). For example there is no authentication (anywhere) to prove that Abu Bakr (May Allah be please with him) fought in battle, but it would be ludicrous to say he did not, right? as there are narrations that put him.

if you are looking for authentication in the same context of Hadith collection then you would have to disgard most of all historic data regards to Islam. but that again would be ludicrous as only one who lacks the understanding of the sciences would do something like this.

[rushiddink]

I think it suffices to say ( as proof f the greatness of this book and its author) tht the book is written by a non Arab scholar (Hazrat Mowlana Yusuf Khandalwi Sahib) and many eminent Arab Ulama have praised this book and have admitted that in 1400 years no such Kitab on the lives of the Sahab has ever been written!!!!!

[MgpojuWy]

Salam, @Gabriel - I dont really have much knowledge of the sciences of hadith, a lot of the narrations that are mentioned in the book include a footnote which saywhether the narration is reliable or not. Can we trust the narrations to be reliable if the authors said so?

[SzefciuCba]

Salam, @Gabriel - I dont really have much knowledge of the sciences of hadith, a lot of the narrations that are mentioned in the book include a footnote which saywhether the narration is reliable or not. Can we trust the narrations to be reliable if the authors said so?

Footnotes are usually not by the author, but by the Muhaqqiq(researcher or verifier) who comments on the book, in this case it depends on how good he is.

Also to be honest there is no need to verify the authenticity of all these narrations while reading, unless they are completely chain-less(No Isnad at all), only verify the authenticity of something when you feel that there is something odd about the text.

[poRmawayncmop]

Hayatus-sahaba is NOT a Fiqh so its ridiculous to demand Authenticity as this was not the practice of Scholars of Islam as discussed in detail here. Its a brilliant book and may Allah (SWT) reward Shaykh (RA) and give us a chance to benefit from it (Ameen).

And here is Hayatus-Sahaba

[SzefciuCba]

Hayatus-sahaba is NOT a Fiqh so its ridiculous to demand Authenticity as this was not the practice of Scholars of Islam as discussed in detail here. Its a brilliant book and may Allah (SWT) reward Shaykh (RA) and give us a chance to benefit from it (Ameen).

And here is Hayatus-Sahaba

السلام عليكم

You reminded me of the book "Manaqib `Umar bin al-Khattab (ra)" by ibn al-Jawzi (rah), the book is very famous, accepted and recommended by many scholars, it contains narrations of virtue for Ameer al-Mu'mineen (ra), HOWEVER the version we have today is unfortunately a summary of the original version, in other words it contains all the narrations of virtue but with no chains of transmission, they have been removed to make the book shorter. Everyone reads it although the authenticity of the texts is unknown, no one said "Well I'm not gonna read any narration unless I know it's gonna be SAHIH." that is unheard of.


Behind the scenes, the scholars had a really hard time trying to authenticate the narrations, basically they try looking for the same narrations or similar ones in other books, and they would check the Isnads in other books... But miraculously just a couple of weeks ago, a version of "Manaqib `Umar" of Ibn al-Jawzi (rah) was found in an old library, AND IT CONTAINS ALL THE CHAINS
They found the complete book and I can't wait for this version to get published, I have a bit of a hobby myself to see how authentic the narrations are =p

[poRmawayncmop]

السلام عليكم

You reminded me of the book "Manaqib `Umar bin al-Khattab (ra)" by ibn al-Jawzi (rah), the book is very famous, accepted and recommended by many scholars, it contains narrations of virtue for Ameer al-Mu'mineen (ra), HOWEVER the version we have today is unfortunately a summary of the original version, in other words it contains all the narrations of virtue but with no chains of transmission, they have been removed to make the book shorter. Everyone reads it although the authenticity of the texts is unknown, no one said "Well I'm not gonna read any narration unless I know it's gonna be SAHIH." that is unheard of.


Behind the scenes, the scholars had a really hard time trying to authenticate the narrations, basically they try looking for the same narrations or similar ones in other books, and they would check the Isnads in other books... But miraculously just a couple of weeks ago, a version of "Manaqib `Umar" of Ibn al-Jawzi (rah) was found in an old library, AND IT CONTAINS ALL THE CHAINS
They found the complete book and I can't wait for this version to get published, I have a bit of a hobby myself to see how authentic the narrations are =p

Agreed with you.