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Old 10-10-2009, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default Tafseer of Qur'aan: Deobandi vs Jamaat-e-Islami vs Ikhwani


I had the oppurtunity to listen to the Tafseer Halaqa of a Deobandi scholar last night and then I cross checked in my mind with other English Tafseer Halaqas of scholars around UK.

I have also had the oppurtunity to sit in Tafseer Halaqas of Jamaat-e-Islami & Ikhwani scholars.

The difference is that Qur'aan Tafseers of Jamaat-e-Islami & Ikhwani scholars flow better and appear more lucid to the ear. from a laymen's perspective.

The Tafseer of Deobandi Ulama tends to be full of information (Masha'Allah) and Ahkaam but that also tends to break the natural flow of the Qur'aan.

In Urdu I like Tafseer-e-Usmani over Maariful Qur'aan because it flows and it is very lucid. I have discussed Tafseer of Maulana Maududi (RA) & Syed Qutb over Maariful Qur'aan with many people and people find the other two more lucid and flowing.

The first Tafseer I read in my life was of Maulana Maududi (RA) and as a school student in Pakistan with average Urdu I found it easy to read and lucid, I then read Maariful Qur'aan years later and no doubt it is infinitely superior in providing knowledge but it doesn't flow as well.

Apparently the new Urdu Tafseer of Mufti Taqi Usmani (DB) is designed to flow and to be easy on the reader and I am still waiting for a copy of it.

I have also read Syed Qutb (RA)'s Tafseer and no doubt that it flows and takes the reader along very nicely.

Those who don't know what I am saying listen to the Tafseer sessions of Dr Israr Ahmed and see how it flows and he is using Maulana Maududi (RA)'s Tafseer in front of him.

In my youth I heard a crackly old tape of Maulana Ahmed Ali Lahori (RA) Tafseer from Lahore and the Qur'aan seemed to flow naturally and it kind of mesmerised you (even on a crackly tape).

Also I have heard and read old Bayans of Maulana Ghulam Habib Naqshbandi-Mujaddidi (RA) and the same thing the Qur'aan seemed to be flowing.

This is just a personal opinion and others have the right to disagree.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:12 AM   #2
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Does it mean Moududi sb.'s Tafseer was fully correct?
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:05 AM   #3
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Does it mean Moududi sb.'s Tafseer was fully correct?
maulana abdus satttar of abit us salam masjid (DB) says that we shouldnt listen to maulana maududi's tafseer.. as he didnt used to give or give the respect to Sahaba Karam (RA) which they soo soo deserve..


about Peer Naqshbandi sahab.. he says that we shouldnt follow himm.. for he had some religious ikhtalaaf with him.. so..


Maulana Taqi Usmani (DB)'s tafseer is amazinggg!!! truely it is beautiful.. you can find it easily in Pakistan.. it is beiing demanded in thewhole world... therefore u r havin truble.


ignore the spellings.. way to difficult for me to write.. just not used to the new keyboard
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:42 AM   #4
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Hazrat Ahmad Sharif and respected sister aliyaa.

The reason behind my question was, Colonel saheb was a very knowledgeable person, yet he wrote nothing negative about that tafseer.
I'm aware of the movement of JI, our Ulama don't suggest to read Moududi's tafseer. But I want to know whether he misinterpreted the Quran or not. If he did so, then in which places? Is there any refutations by classical or contemporary scholars?
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:48 AM   #5
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Hazrat Ahmad Sharif and respected sister aliyaa.

The reason behind my question was, Colonel saheb was a very knowledgeable person, yet he wrote nothing negative about that tafseer.
I'm aware of the movement of JI, our Ulama don't suggest to read Moududi's tafseer. But I want to know whether he misinterpreted the Quran or not. If he did so, then in which places? Is there any refutations by classical or contemporary scholars?


Writing nothing negative does not mean that he praised the contents within. Tafheemul Qur'an is full of language that is less than fitting for the sahaba and anbiya عليهم الصلاة والسلام. What he was saying is that the flow/language use was superior for capturing the layman's attention.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:16 PM   #6
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Writing nothing negative does not mean that he praised the contents within. Tafheemul Qur'an is full of language that is less than fitting for the sahaba and anbiya عليهم الصلاة والسلام. What he was saying is that the flow/language use was superior for capturing the layman's attention.
Brother,have you studied tafheem ul Quran yourself,or you are relying on the opinions of others?
Please don,t take my words negatively......Please !
Actually what I mean is....I have read the tafseer,I agree that for someone who rely on tafheem ul Quran solely as a reference,he might fall into serious errors in some places...but to be honest I did not find it "FULL OF LANGUAGE NOT BEFITTING SUHABA"---not that I am recommending it in anyway,I use tafseer e usmani as a reference,and feel very comfortable with it,but still,I must say,apart from a few places,I did not find tafheem ul Quran worth any serious objection,as is the common perception.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:09 PM   #7
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Assalamu alaykum

As I said earlier, study and analyze the product. The finished product wholly prepared by Moulana Moudoodi sahib.

Isn't the rooh missing.

One more point to analyze about the product; while speaking in urdu they use singular to khulafa-e-rashideen and sahabah. They don't respect the scholars.


I know those facts. In my country JI create most of the fitna and chaos. My intention is to gather perfect refutation of Moududi's works. Because they motivate the youth using the name of Jihad, establishment of Deen etc etc and use them as partisan cadres.

If I can show some mistakes he did in his tafseer, then it will be easy to save people from their propaganda. So I'm finding a good refutation by scholars.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:47 AM   #8
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How could even one entertain the likes of Mr. Mawududis tafseer when he is not even trained on the subject.
It makes no different if it is easy to read or not. Imam Abadasamd Clark mentioned this in 'Root of islamic education'
The deos generally need to imporove their skill in communication. They have the knowledge but not good at realying to the mass (half educated people of today).
Allahualam
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:54 AM   #9
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How could even one entertain the likes of Mr. Mawududis tafseer when he is not even trained on the subject.
It makes no different if it is easy to read or not. Imam Abadasamd Clark mentioned this in 'Root of islamic education'
The deos generally need to imporove their skill in communication. They have the knowledge but not good at realying to the mass (half educated people of today).
Allahualam
aoa,
i must say i agree on both points. i strongly believe tafseer bir raye (if this is what is called) should be avoided. seriously.
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:53 AM   #10
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Salaam

I am going through some of "In the Shade of the Quran" at the moment and subhanAllah - it is mesmerising. It really transforms your reading of the Quran.

As Shaykh Triple A (rahimahullah) said:

"Sayyid is a very prolific and eloquent writer. His style is unique. If someone has read for him then he could recognize his writings without having to be told who the author is. With Ibn kathir his tafsir is full of Hadiths and statements of scholars and rulings so it must be read slowly. I would limit myself to a maximum of 30 pages a day. But because of the flowing style of Sayyid I would read between 100-150 pages a day. In fact I would read until my eyes got tired. My left eye would get exhausted before the right eye so I would close it with my hand and carry on reading with my right eye until it can handle it no more and would just shut down. My vision started deteriorating especially in my left eye. Was it because of too much reading, or was it because of poor lighting, Allah knows best. I found that deteriorating eyesight along with kidney problems where the two most common complaints of the prisoners.

I would be so immersed with the author I would feel that Sayyid was with me in my cell speaking to me directly. There was something about my reading in prison: I could feel the personality of the author through his words. So even though I was in solitary confinement I was never alone. I was with ibn Kathir for some days, with ibn al Qayyim, Sayyid Qutb, al Shawkani, al-Nawawi and many others on other days. How could I feel the loneliness when all of these great men where my companions?

I believe it was Ibn al Mubarak who when asked why he used to spend his time alone said: And how can I be alone when I am in the companionship of the Sahaba?

My favourite parts of the Shades were Sura Yusuf, and al Qasas. Sayyid has a beautiful way of presenting the stories of Yusuf and Musa in these suras. Then there are the introductions to surah al Ankaboot and al Ra’d. In his introduction of al Ankaboot he has some wonderful words about trails and in the intro to Sura al Ra’d he talks about the miracle of Quran.

Something that the reader of Sayyid couldn’t fail to feel is the immense love Sayyid had for the words of Allah. I lived with “In the Shade of the Quran” for over a month. It carried me through and offered me solace during that period. May Allah reward him abundantly on the Day of Judgment."

NB: I am aware of some of the objectionable things in his tafseer. And inshaAllah I am keeping an eye out for them.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:49 AM   #11
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Salaam

I am going through some of "In the Shade of the Quran" at the moment and subhanAllah - it is mesmerising. It really transforms your reading of the Quran.

As Shaykh Triple A (rahimahullah) said:

"Sayyid is a very prolific and eloquent writer. His style is unique. If someone has read for him then he could recognize his writings without having to be told who the author is. With Ibn kathir his tafsir is full of Hadiths and statements of scholars and rulings so it must be read slowly. I would limit myself to a maximum of 30 pages a day. But because of the flowing style of Sayyid I would read between 100-150 pages a day. In fact I would read until my eyes got tired. My left eye would get exhausted before the right eye so I would close it with my hand and carry on reading with my right eye until it can handle it no more and would just shut down. My vision started deteriorating especially in my left eye. Was it because of too much reading, or was it because of poor lighting, Allah knows best. I found that deteriorating eyesight along with kidney problems where the two most common complaints of the prisoners.

I would be so immersed with the author I would feel that Sayyid was with me in my cell speaking to me directly. There was something about my reading in prison: I could feel the personality of the author through his words. So even though I was in solitary confinement I was never alone. I was with ibn Kathir for some days, with ibn al Qayyim, Sayyid Qutb, al Shawkani, al-Nawawi and many others on other days. How could I feel the loneliness when all of these great men where my companions?

I believe it was Ibn al Mubarak who when asked why he used to spend his time alone said: And how can I be alone when I am in the companionship of the Sahaba?

My favourite parts of the Shades were Sura Yusuf, and al Qasas. Sayyid has a beautiful way of presenting the stories of Yusuf and Musa in these suras. Then there are the introductions to surah al Ankaboot and al Ra’d. In his introduction of al Ankaboot he has some wonderful words about trails and in the intro to Sura al Ra’d he talks about the miracle of Quran.

Something that the reader of Sayyid couldn’t fail to feel is the immense love Sayyid had for the words of Allah. I lived with “In the Shade of the Quran” for over a month. It carried me through and offered me solace during that period. May Allah reward him abundantly on the Day of Judgment."

NB: I am aware of some of the objectionable things in his tafseer. And inshaAllah I am keeping an eye out for them.
MashaAllah,jazakAllah !
Who is/was Shaikh triple A....ra.?
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:55 AM   #12
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MashaAllah,jazakAllah !
Who is/was Shaikh triple A....ra.?
Probably best not to name him on an open forum such as this. But let's just say he was killed by a drone attack in Yemen recently.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:44 AM   #13
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Probably best not to name him on an open forum such as this. But let's just say he was killed by a drone attack in Yemen recently.
Ok SHAIKH,I understand !
It is enough for a 'shaheed' to be called a 'shaheed'.He does not need any more names or titles.
Wassalam
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