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Nupbeaupeteew 05-18-2009 02:11 AM

Question regarding the Green Dome
 
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What is the significance of the window (opening) on the Green Dome towards the Qiblah side?

I heard there was famine in Madinah for a long time. People prayed for rain, and the Governor or someone saw 'Aishah (RA) in a dream saying, make an opening in the dome towards the Qiblah...

I want to know the authenticity of this story.

Z2sc8gEz 05-18-2009 02:19 AM

there's another story but it's not like urs.

Nupbeaupeteew 05-18-2009 02:50 AM

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Wa alaykum salam,

Interesting, I didn't even know there was an opening.

JazakAllah Khayr bro. Thanks for replying to my question regarding the green dome on LI too. http://discussworldissues.com/forums.../icon_wink.gif
Wa Iyyak akhi.

Is it really you Weak Spirit? Nice nick, no one would believe its you.

In fact, I searched for the answer to your question here.

viagra-kaufen 05-18-2009 04:04 AM

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I asked a question about the significance of the green dome and how Masjid Al-Nabi is expanded over the grave of the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif here but never got an answer.

Nupbeaupeteew 02-25-2010 01:50 AM

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Someone posted this on a forum that I moderate. I would like to know how far this story is true or false.
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gedsiz 02-25-2010 01:59 AM

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Someone posted this on a forum that I moderate. I would like to know how far this story is true or false.
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salaam

can you translate it please?

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diplmixxxx 02-25-2010 02:16 AM

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

I have heard a completely different story, eager to read the translation of yours.

Nupbeaupeteew 02-25-2010 03:02 AM

wa Alaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh...

I could have translated it, but I think it's better not to do it just now because we are not sure whether that story is true. I do not want to spread it if it's false.
Let's wait for the 'Ulama here to confirm or refute the story first.

gedsiz 02-25-2010 03:04 AM

something to do with a corpse or something on the dome?

Nupbeaupeteew 02-25-2010 03:05 AM

^Yes

diplmixxxx 02-25-2010 03:05 AM

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

You will probably have to wait long to get an answer from scholars in this forum.

Just tell me, has your story something to do with someone climbing up the dome?

gedsiz 02-25-2010 03:07 AM

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^Yes
you might as well tell us bro.

people here are not so stupid that they would fall for something stupid. some may even have an argument to refute it.

diplmixxxx 02-25-2010 03:08 AM

Assalamu alaykum.

I think we three have the same story in mind.

gedsiz 02-25-2010 03:11 AM

all i did was googled it and found the other forum that the brother is a mod on and found the thread!

Nupbeaupeteew 02-25-2010 03:13 AM

Here's what's posted on that forum: "Someone came to demolish the Dome of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) – AL Masjad Al Nabawi (the green dome). However, when some one climbed over the dome to start the demolition, a sudden Lightning struck him and the climber died at the spot and no one was able to remove his body from the top of the dome!!!

It was also said that a pious man from Madina heard a voice in his dream that no one can take out the dead body from the Dome and that he should be buried their as a warning and a lesson for those who may think of attempting to demolish it in future!!!

Finally, they decided to bury the man right there on the dome and to cover his body with a green box so it won’t be visible to people." The Arabic part says that this is narrated by Shaikh Zubaidy.

diplmixxxx 02-25-2010 03:14 AM

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

This is what I also heard from a brother.

And Allah ta'ala knows best.

Z2sc8gEz 03-06-2010 03:44 AM

is this true?

TeemFilla 03-06-2010 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=maryam135135;461546]is this true?[/QUOTE
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The wahabi ulama wanted it to be removed :
Shaykh Saalih al-‘Usaymi (may Allaah preserve him) said:

The fact that this dome has remained for eight centuries does not mean that it has become permissible, and being silent about it does not indicate approval of it or that it is permissible. Rather the Muslim authorities should remove it and put it back as it was at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They should remove the dome and the adornments and engravings that are found in the mosques, above all the Prophet’s Mosque, so long as that will not lead to an even greater fitnah. If it would lead to an even greater fitnah, then the ruler should postpone the matter until he finds an opportunity for that. End quote.

Bida’ al-Quboor, Anwaa’uha wa ahkaamuha (p. 253).

And Allaah knows best.

CindyLavender 03-06-2010 11:01 AM

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I've read and heard similar stories by Ulama. In any case it should serve as a warning to those who plot to do harm to the people of Madinah Munawwarah.

Sa'd http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/anhu.gif narrates that Rasulullah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif said: No one who intends evil for the people of Madinah except that Allah will melt him in the Fire, like the melting of lead or the dissolving of salt in water.

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The Earth Swallows a Party of Forty Men as They Prepare to Exhume Shaikhayn

Umar bin Zaghab relates, “While I was in Madinah, I had a friend, Shamsuddin Malati, who was one of the workers in
Masjid-al-Nabawi. He was a caring person and had a special place in his heart for the beggars of Madinah. One day he said to
me, I am going to tell you this amazing story:

I had a friend, Sawab, who was close to the superintendent of Masjid-al-Haram. I would receive instructions of my duties
through him (the friend). One day he came to me and said, “May Allah I help me, something really terrible has
happened. Some people from Halab have arrived and presented the superintendent with a lot of money. They want him
to open the doors of the Blessed Chamber (where the Blessed Prophet saw now rests) so they can remove the graves of Abu
Bakr http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/anhu.gif and Omarhttp://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/anhu.gif. Apparently, the superintendent has also given them the go ahead.”
Shamsuddin continues, “I heard this and was deeply distressed. Only a while later I received a note from the
superintendent to be at his residence immediately. I went to him, and he said, ‘Sawab, some people tonight are going to
come and knock at the door, open the door for them and let them do whatever they want; don’t try to come in their way.
I replied, “Whatever you wish sir.”
I returned and cried in anguish and helplessness the whole day behind the chamber of the Blessed Prophethttp://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif. I couldn’t
control my tears and only Allah I knows what I went through that day. All the musallis (worshipers) left after Isha Salah,
the doors were then immediately locked, and the masjid became silent in its emptiness.
Then I heard a knock at the door. I opened the door and counted forty men walk in. They carried with them shovels,
spades, candles, and other tools to aid them in their evil plans. They all walked together towards the chamber. Before
they even reached the pulpit where the Blessed Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif delivered his khutbas, I saw the earth swallow them whole, with their tools and everything else they had carried along with them. There was no trace left of any of them.
The superintendent was waiting for them to leave the premises, which they obviously didn’t. After a while he sent for me
and asked, “O Sawab! Those people didn’t come?” I replied, “They came but such and such happened to them.” He
said, “What do you think?” I said, “That’s what happened! I will take you there if you like and then you can see for
yourself whether there is any trace of them left or not.” He thought it over and said, “Listen, keep this to yourself and if
anyone else finds out about this, you will be executed.” I then returned to my quarters.

Later, the superintendent contracted a disease. His flesh began to fall off piece by piece and he eventually died a painful
death. When the Rawafiz (Shi’ite) found out that all forty of their men were swallowed into the ground, they slipped into
Madinah quietly, kidnapped one of the workers of the Haram, and took him to an abandoned building. They beat him,
cut his tongue, and hacked off his limbs.They then threw him near the Blessed Chamber of the Blessed Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif. That night he saw the Blessed Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif in his dream. The Blessed Prophet saw stroked his hands over his tongue and the limbs that had been hacked off. The worker woke up in the morning, his tongue and limbs intact, and himself as healthy as he was before. When the Rawafiz (Shi’ite) saw this, they again kidnapped him, cut his tongue, and threw him near the Blessed Prophet’s saw chamber. Again, he saw the Blessed Prophet saw that night in his dream. The Prophet saw stroked his hand over the worker’s body and tongue. The next morning the worker was returned to his normal health as before, with his tongue intact. Again the
Rawafiz (Shi’ite) did the same. This time they took him to an abandoned building and locked the door from the outside.
Again he saw the Blessed Prophet saw in his dream. The Prophet saw again stroked his hand and everything returned to its
original state and the pain was gone.”

(Lataif Al-Minan Al-Kubra (by Imam Shar’ani) 2/82, Riyadh Al-Nazara 1/372-373, Sa’adat ul- Darain 156)

Taken from the book Consequences of Debasing Auliya-Allah

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gundos 03-07-2010 07:57 PM

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Here's what's posted on that forum:
The Arabic part says that this is narrated by Shaikh Zubaidy.
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These are my assumptions/thoughts:
1. It may be a door for maintenance
2. It may be a marking that it is above the blessed Prophet, so that the people who work on the dome do not step over it (for painting, washing, etc)
3. Is Sheikh Zubaidy, who narrates the story, a well-known Alim? Who is he? Sunni or Shia, etc?
4. Maybe if we know the history of construction of the dome, we can judge the authenticity of the lightning story?
5. It may be a lightning conductor (I suspect it is not)

والله اعلم

Slight history:

The history of the green dome

The dome over the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) dates back to the seventh century AH. It was built during the reign of Sultan Qalawoon, and at first it was the colour of wood, then it became white, then blue, then green, and it has remained green until the present.

Professor ‘Ali Haafiz (may Allaah preserve him) said:

There was no dome over the sacred chamber. There was in the roof of the mosque above the chamber a waist-high enclosure of brick to distinguish the location of the chamber from the rest of the mosque’s roof.

Sultaan Qalawoon al-Saalihi was the first one to build a dome over the chamber. He did that in 678 AH. It was square at the bottom and octagonal at the top, made of wood, and built on top of the pillars that surrounded the chamber. Planks of wood were nailed to it, over which plates of lead were placed, and the brick enclosure was replaced with one made of wood.

The dome was refurbished at the time of al-Naasir Hasan ibn Muhammad Qalawoon, then the leaden plates slipped, but they were fixed and refurbished at the time of al-Ashraf Sha’baan ibn Husayn ibn Muhammad in 765 AH. It fell into disrepair and was renovated at the time of Sultaan Qayit Bey in 881 AH.

The chamber and dome were burned in the fire that swept through the Prophet’s mosque in 886 AH. During the reign of Sultaan Qayit Bey the dome was rebuilt, in 887 AH, and strong pillars to support it were built in the floor of the mosque, and they were built of bricks to the correct height. After the dome had been built in the manner described above, cracks appeared in its upper part. When it proved impossible to refurbish it, the Sultaan Qayit Bey ordered that the upper part be demolished and rebuilt strongly using white plaster. So it was built solidly in 892 AH.

In 1253 AH, an order was issued by the Ottoman Sultan ‘Abd al-Hameed to paint the dome green. He was the first one to colour it green, and the colour has been renewed whenever necessary until the present.

It became known as the green dome after it was painted green. It was previously known as the white dome or the fragrant dome or the blue dome. End quote.

Fusool min Tareekh al-Madeenah al-Munawwarah by ‘Ali Haafiz (p. 127, 128).


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