[AsmViktor]

//All the small children's who has interest for prayers feel bad.// ..Which kid said you this?

At the time when i was kid any one sends me back when i used to stand in the rows i feel very bad, i were losing my interests in prayers, even now i see any kid i remember my childhood days...

[AsmViktor]

As salam alay kum

This question is not for children who disturbs others, actually i forgot to mention that in this thread.

What about the children who are sincere and obedient ?

In our local mosques there are many children's who are more than 7 years of age and who are very very sincere in prayers and they prays very well, and there are some children's who are lesser than 7 years of age are also some what sincere, but still they are not allowed to stand along with us, so what about this issue what hadith says about this type of children's?

[AsmViktor]

Assalamu alaykum

Wa lai kum as salam

Is there anything wrong in the SINCERE children standing in the corner or back row. No there is no wrong only if he is owner of his choice. If anyone pulls him out from the adult rows then i think that is wrong till i get valid hadith.


I also used to feel bad during my childhood days for people pulling me to back row. Since the sincere child is standing in the first rows, others will join and the misbehavior starts. Yes you are correct i remember when i was child one of my cousin makes me laugh in salah, But instead of sending them to back rows or pulling out of the rows, why we cant make children's to stand separate along with us so that they cant misbehave?

May be the same theory can be told to sincere child and ask him to stand in a corner or back rows. Yes we can say and make all children to stand back but the sincere child will lose interests in prayer's, if a sincere child who want's to pray sincerely he cant pray sincerely along with misbehavior child's at back rows..

[RalfDweflywex]

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Where should the children stand in Jamaat Salaah? At what age can they join in the saff of adults?

Answer 15440

August 26, 2005


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1. If there is only one mature boy, then he will counted among the non-Baaligh. If the non-mature boys are more in number, then it is Mustahabb to put them in the back Saff. However, nowadays, the children will be made to stand with the elders/adults when 2 or more children get together, they will cause harm to their and adult?s Salaat.

2. The above ruling will only apply to those child who can perform their Salaat and Wudhu perfectly. It is Makrooh to join the very young children into the adult Saff. Moreover, it is not even permissible to bring them into the Musjid. (Ahsanul Fataawa vol.3 pg.280)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

[medio]

It's the issue that is ashamed to a muslim themselves.

I got son age 14 and 8. alhamdulillah since they are homeschool and we moved to the area which the masjeed are not too strict, they can go along with my husband to Friday prayer and jamaah prayer.

I can understand that some masjeed had to be very strict about it, but this in some way also one of the cause. Because when you not allowed the kids to come to the masjeed, how can they learn the adab of the masjeed. Even adult need to remind, let alone kids. This is than the responsibility of the parents, especially the father. It's also like someone age 10 holding knife for the first time. Everybody learn along the way. And this required 'help' from the masjeed community, imam, other people and parents especially.

I was so sad when my kids are 6 or 7 and especially some masjeed not allowed at all the kids to come for prayer. We learn and teach kids about praying in jamaah, yet we cannot send them to the masjeed. I mean, my 8 yeas old started to do taraweeh prayer since age 5. Alhamdulillah, in North East masjeed are less strict with having kids. Although most of the kids behave awful in the masjeed and my kids always get tease when they go for Friday prayer and some other prayer. This sometimes come from kids who religiously pious parents.

Than it's not under 7, even above 7, lots age 12 and above, been send to the back row or upper level of the masjeed and without adult around, their behaviour is somewhat awful. My kids come back home with a big question in their head of how could we go to masjeed to pray and messing about? Bully and tease others. This is in the masjeed. Cannot imagine how if outside the masjeed.

But, of course first and foremost is the parents. Also, if we shoo kids to the corner of the masjeed, that is not going to solve the problem. And the problem got to solved with wisdom. We don't want the good kids to felt sad of been told off because of other kids fault, and we need to teach disrespectful kids to the adab. If we think the parents won't bother and will tell us off, why don't this been told in subtle way that make them realise the problem.

Honestly I am so sad and sick of the problem with sub continent masjeed which always send kids to the corner or other part in the masjeed because they don't behave. it's hard for kids who behave and want to concentrate for their prayer. My sons come back and angry because he cannot concentrate on his prayer becuase he had to pray among other kids who talk why do their sujud and move around and etc. This is not kdis below 7! This is in UK.

If we don't teach kids when they small, how can they learn. I know kids who memorise the quran but behave awful in the masjeed. This is so sad. The knowledge can come second, the manners need to be teach forst and foremost. Because once it become a habit, won't matter if you learn the whole quran or hadith, it will not change you. Manners and good behaviour had to be teach since small age. Muslim should think about spending even a little time to teach their kids manners and not just leave the teaching only at the hand of the ustad in madrasah.