[Nfvzjvcl]

As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,

I was discussing the importance of obtaining an Ijaazah in Qur'an with an Imam and, to my surprise, he considered it almost a waste of time.

He said that everyone has Ijaazah and everyone has Isnaad because of the fact that every Hafiz studied with a teacher who studied with his teacher and so on all the way to the Prophet of Allah (sallallahu 'alahi wa sallam).

I didn't want to argue with him, so I simply accepted what he said and remained silent. However, I think most will agree that normally there is a massive difference in the quality of recitation and Tajweed of one who had Ijaazah when when compared to one who hasn't obtained a written Ijaazah/Isnaad.

Also, wasn't the practise of Ijaazah bil Isnaad started right from the time of the Taabi'een and hasn't it always been a condition that one meets a certain standard before they can be issued an Ijaazah bil Isnaad.

If anyone has some words of wisdom on this topic then please advise, may Allah reward you all.

[Nfvzjvcl]

anyone?

[JonnTEN]

most ijazahs are for barakah and don't reflect the talent of a person. You can buy these ijazahs or get them without knowing anything. I have some candy ijazahs as well.

[replicajoy]

most ijazahs are for barakah and don't reflect the talent of a person. You can buy these ijazahs or get them without knowing anything. I have some candy ijazahs as well.

How much bruv?

forgive me bro abu zayd for buttin inn on your thread

[JonnTEN]

yo fake shaykh there is a saying in egpyt...you can buy 1 fatwa for 2 chickens. You were telling me about the nice T-bone stakes in zambia so send some my way and we shall discuss prices afterwards.

[replicajoy]

yo fake shaykh there is a saying in egpyt...you can buy 1 fatwa for 2 chickens. You were telling me about the nice T-bone stakes in zambia so send some my way and we shall discuss prices afterwards.

That's a "sastah soodah" ( that's a bargain) lol

[Nfvzjvcl]

most ijazahs are for barakah and don't reflect the talent of a person. You can buy these ijazahs or get them without knowing anything. I have some candy ijazahs as well.

An Ijaazah in Quranic recitation is most definitely not for barakah and must only be issued to one who is deserving.

[xtrslots]

Brother London, you are right about ijazaat in general, but you are completely wrong on this point. Ijazahs in tajwid are more often than not true ijazaat, based on mastery of tajwid -- this I know myself. I know that Syria may be over-hyped by certain 'traditionalists', but Syria along with Egypt remain excellent places for tajwid.

[larentont]

Brother London, you are right about ijazaat in general, but you are completely wrong on this point. Ijazahs in tajwid are more often than not true ijazaat, based on mastery of tajwid -- this I know myself. I know that Syria may be over-hyped by certain 'traditionalists', but Syria along with Egypt remain excellent places for tajwid.

What you're saying is true. Also you have to factor in the science of tajweed and qiraa'ah. It is a skill which requires perpetual practice to maintain otherwise it will be lost. You may find some who acquired proper ijaazah in tajweed but because they didn't maintain it, their skills are not up to par.

So it can go both ways. Most of the time ijaazahs in tajweed are proof of a person's qualifications and sometimes it can hardly be proof because little or no effort is put into maintaining the science.

[treawittelf]

Isn't the whole point of an ijaza just that? Ijaza comes from the word jawaaz, meaning permission. In other words, by gaining an ijazah your teacher has given you permission to teach. If you are given an ijaza with a line of teachers going back to the Prophet (saw), that is a huge responsibility! Ijazas shouldn't be handed out just to whoever, and definitely not if they haven't reached the required level to teach that particular subject.

Tajweed and qira'ah is singled out often because it is so technical, but should we not apply the same level of scrutiny to other sciences, before giving out ijazas to whoever, then people get complacent and we water down the strength of Islamic scholarship?

Wallahu A'lam