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AsmViktor 07-12-2011 02:02 PM

Lack of regard for salah
 
I was recently travelling by plane. The plane had started moving around 30 minutes before the beginning time of fajr time and we would reach our destination in around 4 hours. I spoke to the airhostess and told them that I would pray etc and they were perfectly ok with it. Now previously on many other flights I had given the benefit of doubt to the Muslims flying on the plane as it was possible that no-one was praying on the plane due to combining prayers or maybe I was not attentive etc. Anyway with regards to Fajr salah there is no chance of combining it. Also there was no way the people could have prayed beforehand or after the flight. There was about 1 and a half hours to pray which would all pass on the plane. To my utter shock no-one prayed on the whole plane except myself. The vast majority flying on the plane were Muslim and it was a packed flight but not a single person prayed. I was very sad about the state of the Muslim ummah.

Adiamant 07-12-2011 02:04 PM

You should have got up and said Al-Salah Ya Ibaad Allah!

الصلاة يا عباد الله

AsmViktor 07-12-2011 02:05 PM

Yes, man I should have said that. Jazkallah khairan.

enfoires 07-12-2011 02:10 PM

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How were you able to pray on a plane? Every time I've been on a plane, there's barely enough room to stretch my legs out, let alone pray. Do they have a special area on the plane with a fair amount of room that I've just never noticed?

AsmViktor 07-12-2011 02:14 PM

There is always a lot of space. Either next to the toilet or the kitchen area/food area used by the cabin crew. I'm not talking about praying on your seat lol.

Adiamant 07-12-2011 02:14 PM

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How were you able to pray on a plane? Every time I've been on a plane, there's barely enough room to stretch my legs out, let alone pray. Do they have a special area on the plane with a fair amount of room that I've just never noticed?
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In Saudi airlines there is a room at the back with a screen showing you the Qibla. I don't know about others.

The air hostesses are also very nice, they let you pray in the kitchen.

AsmViktor 07-12-2011 02:17 PM

Yes saudi have a separate room. At least there is something good coming out of saudi. They also don't serve alchohol. Saudi airlines would have to be the best airline for muslims in the world....wait 1 minute...i hear somebody mention....royal air jordanian???? come on matbooh let me hear it lol...only messing around bro

Adiamant 07-12-2011 02:18 PM

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Yes saudi have a separate room. At least there is something good coming out of saudi. They also don't serve alchohol. Saudi airlines would have to be the best airline for muslims in the world....wait 1 minute...i hear somebody mention....royal air jordanian???? come on matbooh let me hear it lol...only messing around bro
HAHA...

London bro, please man. Don't start it in every thread.. It will get personal and then.. http://discussworldissues.com/forums...cheesygrin.gif

BV6lwvXf 07-12-2011 02:21 PM

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We usually pray on planes. A few times the air hostess will tell us to wait until they take out their trolley. There's enough time with them serving the guest to be able to pray in their teeny kitchen. Another time in Malaysian airline, they had a a curtain they put in front of the middle entrance, and behind it the had a prayer mat. The direction kept changing http://discussworldissues.com/forums...nnah_smile.gif

In PIA when I first flew back when I was a child, there was a whole Jamaat going for Nizamuddeen ijtimaa. Everyone prayed there, they even had azaan and a mukabbir! (my dada)

htDgExh8 07-12-2011 02:32 PM

Asalamualaikum.

I am glad Shaykh London786 has mentioned something about praying on the plane.

We as Muslims should know that we have rights. We shouldn't be scared to excercise our rights, while of course being courteous and kind to others.

Many times people are scared to pray on the planes. However, Alhumdulillah here in the U.S. I have prayed on American Airlines many times while standing. Also when I went on British Airways, I prayed 4 times standing Alhumdulillah.

I'm just sharing this to encourage others and show that the air-hostesses will allow you to pray standing up. Standing up and praying on airplanes aren't only restricted to Muslim owned airlines.

Britiobby 07-12-2011 03:12 PM

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Is it ok to pray sitting on the plane?

Adiamant 07-12-2011 03:18 PM

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Is it ok to pray sitting on the plane?
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Not if you can stand. Because, Qiyam is Farz http://discussworldissues.com/forums...icon_smile.gif

If you can't stand then you can read sitting.

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htDgExh8 07-12-2011 03:21 PM

Every single hanafi scholar I have asked, as well as my teacher have said:

If you can't stand and pray (on the plane), then go ahead and sit and pray (on the plane). However, you will have to repeat the prayer.


and as Moulana Sahab said below, this is for those who can stand.

Britiobby 07-12-2011 03:22 PM

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Tazqoaap 07-12-2011 03:48 PM

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Mashallah to the brothers/sisters who pray on a plane. If it was a carrier with a muslim majority I would not fear praying, but to be honest if it was an american airliner I don't think I would have the guts to pray on the airplane. My reason is that some americans are very trigger happy these days when accusing people of terrorism and I have heard stories of people getting in trouble for praying in the airport. I have already recieved unwanted attention from certain law enforcement simply by wearing the beard so I am weary in these situations. Note that I have no trouble praying anywhere while on the ground (libraries, outside, etc), but I am apprehensive to do so on an airplane.

Please make dua to make me stronger in this regard

Ekzamenov 07-12-2011 04:12 PM

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Yes saudi have a separate room. At least there is something good coming out of saudi. They also don't serve alchohol. Saudi airlines would have to be the best airline for muslims in the world....wait 1 minute...i hear somebody mention....royal air jordanian???? come on matbooh let me hear it lol...only messing around bro
the only difference being that one is following the fatwas of aal al faik while the other is following the likes of ali goma,both selling their fatwas according the prevailing political and social desposition of the day.saudia can't risk serving it coz they are seen as face of the muslim world and there will be an uproar.

was salam

aliceingoogs 07-12-2011 06:32 PM

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I was recently travelling by plane. The plane had started moving around 30 minutes before the beginning time of fajr time and we would reach our destination in around 4 hours. I spoke to the airhostess and told them that I would pray etc and they were perfectly ok with it. Now previously on many other flights I had given the benefit of doubt to the Muslims flying on the plane as it was possible that no-one was praying on the plane due to combining prayers or maybe I was not attentive etc. Anyway with regards to Fajr salah there is no chance of combining it. Also there was no way the people could have prayed beforehand or after the flight. There was about 1 and a half hours to pray which would all pass on the plane. To my utter shock no-one prayed on the whole plane except myself. The vast majority flying on the plane were Muslim and it was a packed flight but not a single person prayed. I was very sad about the state of the Muslim ummah.
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The same thing happened when i was returning home from hajj. Everyone on the plane was muslim all returning from hajj, it was fajr time and me and my cousin got up, did wudhu, even did azan but no one else got up, only one brother who saw us praying also got up and prayed but everyone else either heard us but didnt pray, saw us and didnt pray or just carried on snoring

9wQlZkIj 07-12-2011 07:11 PM

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I was recently travelling by plane. The plane had started moving around 30 minutes before the beginning time of fajr time and we would reach our destination in around 4 hours. I spoke to the airhostess and told them that I would pray etc and they were perfectly ok with it. Now previously on many other flights I had given the benefit of doubt to the Muslims flying on the plane as it was possible that no-one was praying on the plane due to combining prayers or maybe I was not attentive etc. Anyway with regards to Fajr salah there is no chance of combining it. Also there was no way the people could have prayed beforehand or after the flight. There was about 1 and a half hours to pray which would all pass on the plane. To my utter shock no-one prayed on the whole plane except myself. The vast majority flying on the plane were Muslim and it was a packed flight but not a single person prayed. I was very sad about the state of the Muslim ummah.
Had exactly the same experience a few years ago. I even mentioned to the guy next to me that I'm going to pray and that he should too but he just acknowledged it and couldn't care less. Oh, and the plane was full of Muslims.

gundas 07-12-2011 08:39 PM

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the only difference being that one is following the fatwas of aal al faik while the other is following the likes of ali goma,both selling their fatwas according the prevailing political and social desposition of the day.saudia can't risk serving it coz they are seen as face of the muslim world and there will be an uproar.

was salam
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They are both MORONS.

Salafees back the Saudi throne.
Sufees back the Jordanian throne.
Both groups refuse to see open and blatant evidence and keep "singing the praises of their "Government". Both Governments are both SELL-OUTS!

worldofwarcraft 07-12-2011 08:56 PM

There is an opinion of Mawlana Thanwi that salat on plane is invalid anyway.


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