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Old 06-20-2011, 05:15 PM   #1
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:40 PM   #2
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The first article is very lengthy, a summary would be much appreciated.

The second article is too brief :P No comments on it.

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Old 06-21-2011, 01:15 AM   #3
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All,


The Globalists and the Islamists: Fomenting the "Clash of Civilizations" for a New World Order

The Muslim Brotherhood – The Globalists' Secret Weapon

Comments welcome on this research, please.

http://www.redmoonrising.com/Ikhwan/MB.htm

And this:

http://surrenderingislam.com/surrend...nd-rashid-rida

I have a suspicion about Iqbal of Pakistan that he might be influenced by the freemasons while he was in London. In worst case, he might be a freemason , himself.

He has held Jamaluddin Afghani in high esteem.

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Thus, of him, Iqbal writes:

“The task of a modern Muslim is (therefore) immense. He has to rethink the whole system of Islam without completely breaking with the past. Perhaps the first Muslim who felt the urge of a new spirit was Shah Wali Allah of Delhi. The man, however, who fully realized the importance and immensity of the task, and whose deep insight into the inner meaning of the history of Muslim thought and life, combined with a broad vision engineered by his wide experience of men and matters would have made him a living link between the past and the future, was Jamaluddin Afghani. In his indefatigable but divided energy could have been devoted entirely to Islam, as a system of human belief and conduct, the world of Islam, intellectually speaking, would have been on a much more solid ground today.” [Iqbal: Six Lectures on the Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam (1930), pg. 136]


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Iqbal was the student of Syed Mir Hassan who was the admirer of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan , the founder of Aligar University which produced the secular elite that finally managed the
civilian administration of Pakistan after 1947. Check the links below.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Mir_Hassan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Iqbal

Sir Thomas's encouragement, Iqbal travelled to Europe and spent many years studying there. He obtained a Bachelor of Arts degree from Trinity College at Cambridge in 1907, while simultaneously studying law at Lincoln's Inn, from where he qualified as a barrister in 1908. In Europe, he started writing his poetry in Persian as well. Throughout his life, Iqbal would prefer writing in Persian as he believed it allowed him to fully express philosophical concepts, and it gave him a wider audience.[1] It was while in England that he first participated in politics. Following the formation of the All-India Muslim League in 1906, Iqbal was elected to the executive committee of its British chapter in 1908. Together with two other politicians, Syed Hassan Bilgrami and Syed Ameer Ali, Iqbal sat on the subcommittee which drafted the constitution of the League. In 1907, Iqbal travelled to Germany to pursue a doctorate from the Faculty of Philosophy of the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität at Munich. Working under the supervision of Friedrich Hommel, Iqbal published a thesis titled: The Development of Metaphysics in Persia.

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The British had a far reaching plan to partiion India and put secular freemasonic elites in thw two countries. So they supported the formation of Muslim leagure !!!

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The most famous exponent of Islamic modernism is the poet-thinker of the Indian subcontinent, Allama Dr Sir Muhammad Iqbal (1876-1938). Beginning as an Indian nationalist and singing praise for his homeland, the Indian subcontinent, Iqbal later becoming the most influential Proponent of Muslim separatism and is generally considered to have conceived the idea of an independent Muslim homeland in the Muslim-majority north-western zone of India. He expressed his views mainly in Urdu and Persian poetry in a style quite inimitable and thus profoundly influenced the educated sections of Muslim society.

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In Pakistan , the socalled iIslamic state , the central bank was established in 1948. How Islamic is this state when it which supports usury ??????

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Bank_of_Pakistan

the central bank of Pakistan. While its constitution, as originally laid down in the State Bank of Pakistan Order 1948, remained basically unchanged until January 1, 1974, when the bank was nationalized, the scope of its functions was considerably enlarged. The State Bank of Pakistan Act 1956, with subsequent amendments, forms the basis of its operations today. The headquarters are located in the financial capital of Pakistan, Karachi with its second headquarters in the capital, Islamabad.

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Old 06-21-2011, 03:33 AM   #4
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I find it a very controversial website.
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:44 AM   #5
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I find it a very controversial website.
Why controversial ? Because , your read history from the official or santized histroy books.
Just try to understand the secrets of usury.

The whole crisis may be summed up as "the curse of usury ". Abduh in Egypt has tried to legalize usury in a clever way. Same ,like the MArtin luther of the Protestant movement.

Although many Western people were smart in inventing or discovering novel hightech , they are not smarter than the devil which has deceived them by making usury acceptable in the society. This has allowed some Jewish bankers to make money out of thin air and become immensely
influential in Europe. Check this to understand banking on usury.

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http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html
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After conquering Europe , they used the military muscle of European countries to conquer the whole world !!!

More on this here.

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http://www.henrymakow.com/how_to_stop_the_nwo.html


Western "civilization" itself has been subverted by this cult. The so-called "enlightenment" represents a rejection of man and God.
A tiny clique of Cabalist bankers, the Illuminati, have supplanted God (i.e. the natural and moral laws of the universe) in the specious name of "humanism," "reason," "progress." Henceforth, they will determine what is healthy and natural, i.e. homosexuality, promiscuity, pedophilia, incest.

Today, humanity is firmly in their satanic grip, and sinking deeper into a coma. The ship of civilization is sinking beneath the waves while the passengers are asleep. To use another nautical metaphor, we are up a creek without a paddle.

Despite all the evidence, we are in denial. We don't really believe in this conspiracy. It's like learning we have terminal cancer. We don't want to know. The mass media keep telling us that our democratic and cultural institutions are sound and responsible. We prefer to believe that. We suffer from a cognitive dissonance.

The conspiracy is real and it's much worse than we think. Powerful people have lived and breathed this plot for centuries. They have erected a vicious police state behind the facade of democratic government and liberty. The charade of "fighting terror" is a pretext to imprison the general population.

The Protocols have been realized. The Illuminati want to own and control everyone. They want to be God. They contrived all the revolutions, the world wars, the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, the JFK assassination, 9-11, Iraq and Afghanistan and the "war on terror."
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:41 AM   #6
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Why controversial ? Because , your read history from the official or santized histroy books.
Just try to understand the secrets of usury.

The whole crisis may be summed up as "the curse of usury ". Abduh in Egypt has tried to legalize usury in a clever way. Same ,like the MArtin luther of the Protestant movement.

Although many Western people were smart in inventing or discovering novel hightech , they are not smarter than the devil which has deceived them by making usury acceptable in the society. This has allowed some Jewish bankers to make money out of thin air and become immensely
influential in Europe. Check this to understand banking on usury.

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http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html
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After conquering Europe , they used the military muscle of European countries to conquer the whole world !!!

More on this here.

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http://www.henrymakow.com/how_to_stop_the_nwo.html

Western "civilization" itself has been subverted by this cult. The so-called "enlightenment" represents a rejection of man and God.
A tiny clique of Cabalist bankers, the Illuminati, have supplanted God (i.e. the natural and moral laws of the universe) in the specious name of "humanism," "reason," "progress." Henceforth, they will determine what is healthy and natural, i.e. homosexuality, promiscuity, pedophilia, incest.

Today, humanity is firmly in their satanic grip, and sinking deeper into a coma. The ship of civilization is sinking beneath the waves while the passengers are asleep. To use another nautical metaphor, we are up a creek without a paddle.

Despite all the evidence, we are in denial. We don't really believe in this conspiracy. It's like learning we have terminal cancer. We don't want to know. The mass media keep telling us that our democratic and cultural institutions are sound and responsible. We prefer to believe that. We suffer from a cognitive dissonance.

The conspiracy is real and it's much worse than we think. Powerful people have lived and breathed this plot for centuries. They have erected a vicious police state behind the facade of democratic government and liberty. The charade of "fighting terror" is a pretext to imprison the general population.

The Protocols have been realized. The Illuminati want to own and control everyone. They want to be God. They contrived all the revolutions, the world wars, the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, the JFK assassination, 9-11, Iraq and Afghanistan and the "war on terror."
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Assalam alaykum,

Like all conspiracy theories, this one seeks to pull every world event into its grasp, creating its own internal logic, condemning its detractors for being naieve, and I am not buying it.
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Old 06-21-2011, 09:50 AM   #7
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Assalam alaykum,

Like all conspiracy theories, this one seeks to pull every world event into its grasp, creating its own internal logic, condemning its detractors for being naieve, and I am not buying it.
Not even if buy one get one free? How about a free sample? No?
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:59 PM   #8
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Salam,
well I dont have enough education in history but i learned that islam is not compatible in its basis with western thinking - even on surface we find many common values. Why I write it is - that they will never understand us - I mean in deepest basis therefore here will always be problems in mutual understanding, suspition or dissapointment. They try to defeat - by the main tools = devide and conquer/globalisation/limited sources..... As they think that muslim will oppress them if they dominate - they try to dominate first. I think it is not possible for manking to ovecome the ignorance completely, only allah can do it, he promissed it will happen in end of times. Till then we will only try and fight to be close to sharia as much as possible. Allah please help us in this endeavour, because that is the best for everyone.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:04 AM   #9
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Assalam alaykum,

Like all conspiracy theories, this one seeks to pull every world event into its grasp, creating its own internal logic, condemning its detractors for being naieve, and I am not buying it.
Looks like you are a paid parrot trying to belittle critical thinking and analyzing the evil.
How much are you paid to keep the rest of the people in illusion explained below.
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=28568

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The British public accepts being led by men who prefer war to peace, to being robbed by their paymasters, the bankers, American and British, rather than controlling our own money and to being parasitized by America rather than ruling ourselves. There can be only one explanation: our public is afraid of the truth which is in plain sight. We are witnessing the triumph of illusion over reality; of lies over truth; of hope over the death of our economy. Yes, of evil over good. When tens, even hundreds of thousands of men, women and children have been killed in ten years of warfare, something is very wrong. Someone is doing something very bad. The simple, even trivial explanation: our public does not want to hear the bad news.

The bad news is that the consumer dream of infinite growth and never-ending plenty is at an end. The country’s economic trend is now downward. Our political and business leaders are engaged in a desperate conspiracy to conceal this trend to general poverty while ensuring that they and their families live in luxury. Anthony Blair, the bought-and-paid-for multi-millionaire is the model. He and his family live well at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and Afghan lives.

The good news? I shall have to think about it.

Our public clearly believes that our leaders and bankers are capable, responsible men. They know more than us, they must know what they are doing! And it is true.

They are indeed responsible men: our politicians are responsible to their banker and industrialist paymasters, our bankers to their co-conspirators. They do know more than we do – and ensure that we do not find our what they know by using the Official Secrets Act, invoking commercial confidence and a hundred tricks and evasions in and out of the courts and Parliament. And they know what they are doing very well – robbing us as ruthlessly as any Mubarak or Gaddafi.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:20 AM   #10
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I like reading conspiracy materials but often they're very long

whenever i ready conspiracies, they are always written by a non muslim, the mention of GOD is non-existant in their articles and everything bad happening is some peoples plan and good things happening is a deception from them same people so the power of the Almighty is always ignored.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:22 AM   #11
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Looks like you are a paid parrot trying to belittle critical thinking and analyzing the evil.
How much are you paid to keep the rest of the people in illusion explained below.
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=28568

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The British public accepts being led by men who prefer war to peace, to being robbed by their paymasters, the bankers, American and British, rather than controlling our own money and to being parasitized by America rather than ruling ourselves. There can be only one explanation: our public is afraid of the truth which is in plain sight. We are witnessing the triumph of illusion over reality; of lies over truth; of hope over the death of our economy. Yes, of evil over good. When tens, even hundreds of thousands of men, women and children have been killed in ten years of warfare, something is very wrong. Someone is doing something very bad. The simple, even trivial explanation: our public does not want to hear the bad news.

The bad news is that the consumer dream of infinite growth and never-ending plenty is at an end. The country’s economic trend is now downward. Our political and business leaders are engaged in a desperate conspiracy to conceal this trend to general poverty while ensuring that they and their families live in luxury. Anthony Blair, the bought-and-paid-for multi-millionaire is the model. He and his family live well at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and Afghan lives.

The good news? I shall have to think about it.

Our public clearly believes that our leaders and bankers are capable, responsible men. They know more than us, they must know what they are doing! And it is true.

They are indeed responsible men: our politicians are responsible to their banker and industrialist paymasters, our bankers to their co-conspirators. They do know more than we do – and ensure that we do not find our what they know by using the Official Secrets Act, invoking commercial confidence and a hundred tricks and evasions in and out of the courts and Parliament. And they know what they are doing very well – robbing us as ruthlessly as any Mubarak or Gaddafi.
Seek help.

Seriously, the belief that anyone who disagrees with you on a message board is being paid to keep people away from the truth is as much an indication of 'help is needed' as anything could possibly be.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:27 AM   #12
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@pawlak,

ur acting lyk some of my friends after watching the arrivals series, all the freemason and illuminati hype, anything with a shape of an eye is suspiciouly viewed as an illuminati source.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:58 AM   #13
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I like reading conspiracy materials but often they're very long

whenever i ready conspiracies, they are always written by a non muslim, the mention of GOD is non-existant in their articles and everything bad happening is some peoples plan and good things happening is a deception from them same people so the power of the Almighty is always ignored.
God has told you to avoid usury and He has declared war on usury.
How to do war on usury ?
One way is to expose those bankers.

If people take usury and support banks , then why do you expect God to be kind to you ?
By supporting usury based loan , the people has invited the trouble .
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God has told you to avoid usury and He has declared war on usury.
How to do war on usury ?
One way is to expose those bankers.

If people take usury and support banks , then why do you expect God to be kind to you ?
By supporting usury based loan , the people has invited the trouble .
Nobody likes usury. But it's a big step from 'usury is bad and some people promote it (which is true)' to your outright lunacy 'everything and everyone secret nazi gold control reptile bankers from outer space jews' or whatever it is you're saying.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:04 AM   #15
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@pawlak,

ur acting lyk some of my friends after watching the arrivals series, all the freemason and illuminati hype, anything with a shape of an eye is suspiciouly viewed as an illuminati source.
Try to identify the bogus or half-truth conspiracy theory from the real ones. Arrival is a half-truth one mixed with Shia concepts. UFO , space-aliens and reptiles based conspiracies are all bogus ones.

Like , black money drives away white money from the market. the Kuffar has spread many bogus conspiracies to belitttle the genuine research on their dark agenda. More on this here.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...piracy-Concept
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:14 PM   #16
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Looks like you are a paid parrot trying to belittle critical thinking and analyzing the evil.
How much are you paid to keep the rest of the people in illusion explained below.
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=28568

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The British public accepts being led by men who prefer war to peace, to being robbed by their paymasters, the bankers, American and British, rather than controlling our own money and to being parasitized by America rather than ruling ourselves. There can be only one explanation: our public is afraid of the truth which is in plain sight. We are witnessing the triumph of illusion over reality; of lies over truth; of hope over the death of our economy. Yes, of evil over good. When tens, even hundreds of thousands of men, women and children have been killed in ten years of warfare, something is very wrong. Someone is doing something very bad. The simple, even trivial explanation: our public does not want to hear the bad news.

The bad news is that the consumer dream of infinite growth and never-ending plenty is at an end. The country’s economic trend is now downward. Our political and business leaders are engaged in a desperate conspiracy to conceal this trend to general poverty while ensuring that they and their families live in luxury. Anthony Blair, the bought-and-paid-for multi-millionaire is the model. He and his family live well at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and Afghan lives.

The good news? I shall have to think about it.

Our public clearly believes that our leaders and bankers are capable, responsible men. They know more than us, they must know what they are doing! And it is true.

They are indeed responsible men: our politicians are responsible to their banker and industrialist paymasters, our bankers to their co-conspirators. They do know more than we do – and ensure that we do not find our what they know by using the Official Secrets Act, invoking commercial confidence and a hundred tricks and evasions in and out of the courts and Parliament. And they know what they are doing very well – robbing us as ruthlessly as any Mubarak or Gaddafi.
Assalam alaykum,

I'm not getting paid nor am I part of your conspiracy theory.

I agree with you on the problem of usury and the widening gap between the rich and the poor.

What I object to is a mega-conspiracy theory that includes all world events, and especially the notion of a clash of civilizations because it foments violence and war.

Wassalam
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:15 PM   #17
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Our public clearly believes that our leaders and bankers are capable, responsible men. They know more than us, they must know what they are doing! And it is true.

They are indeed responsible men: our politicians are responsible to their banker and industrialist paymasters, our bankers to their co-conspirators. They do know more than we do – and ensure that we do not find our what they know by using the Official Secrets Act, invoking commercial confidence and a hundred tricks and evasions in and out of the courts and Parliament. And they know what they are doing very well – robbing us as ruthlessly as any Mubarak or Gaddafi.
salam,

hehe, they are just there nothing less and nothing more.... they reflect society in that way that if society is corrupted also their leader will be with certainity corrupted and vice versa - the vicious circle
- otherwise - no chance to get position - we say the crow sits beside crow or crow wil not peck out eye to another crow

But,
I dont know if I am correst - quran says that people are in ranks - we can do nothing about it? Is this interpretatin aslo for this situation?
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Assalam alaykum,

I'm not getting paid nor am I part of your conspiracy theory.

I agree with you on the problem of usury and the widening gap between the rich and the poor.

What I object to is a mega-conspiracy theory that includes all world events, and especially the notion of a clash of civilizations because it foments violence and war.

Wassalam
There is infinite wisdom hidden behind the banning of usury in Islam. Do not underestimate it.
You need to read the history of money first . Then you will not object to the existence of mega-empire run by a secret elite who need to reform Islam in every possible way to get a soically acceptable place for usury based banks !!! So , they need to promote those organizations like Muslim brotherhood , Jamat-e-Islami and others which allows usury based banks.


Check this link .

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http://usuryfree.blogspot.com/2009/0...n-hodgson.html


Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been "privatized," or taken over by a private money cartel. Except for coins, all of our money is now created as loans advanced by private banking institutions — including the private Federal Reserve. Banks create the principal but not the interest to service their loans. To find the interest, new loans must continually be taken out, expanding the money supply, inflating prices — and robbing you of the value of your money.

Not only is virtually the entire money supply created privately by banks, but a mere handful of very big banks is responsible for a massive investment scheme known as "derivatives," which now tallies in at hundreds of trillions of dollars. The banking system has been contrived so that these big banks always get bailed out by the taxpayers from their risky ventures, but the scheme has reached its mathematical limits. There isn't enough money in the entire global economy to bail out the banks from a massive derivatives default today. When the investors realize that the "insurance" against catastrophe that they have purchased in the form of derivatives is worthless, they are liable to jump ship and bring the whole shaky edifice crashing down.


Web of Debt unravels the deceptions in our money scheme and presents a crystal clear picture of the financial abyss towards which we are heading. Then it explores a workable alternative, one that was tested in colonial America and is grounded in the best of American economic thought, including the writings of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln. If you care about financial security, your own or the nation's, you should read this book." (snip)

More about this book

http://www.amazon.com/review/product..._cr_pr_helpful

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