[satthackacibe]

أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


A`ūdhu billāhi min ash-shaitāni r-rajīm
b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm

The roles are beautifully delegated. In addition to what has been listed here, there is another angle from which to look at the clear-cut differences in roles:

Women are truly blessed in marriages that live up to Islamic standards. We bear children, we nurse children, we nurture children, we care for our coming generation. Men aren't absolved of responsibility, on the contrary, they bear the full responsibility of ensuring the proper tarbiyyah of their children; an overly harsh father can drive a child away, a father who isn't careful can be negligent in his duties. Hence the careful choosing of spouses for each - man and woman.

The relations are so interconnected in kindness, mercy, patience and forgiveness... truly amazing, I see a proper marriage as a favour from Allah (SWT). Man is given an opportunity to be patient and kind towards his wife and children, to be merciful towards them and to forgive them their differences and shortcomings. Women do the same with their husbands and children. We are human and we all have our shortcomings but marriage and marital relations is one area of struggle where jannah has been promised so that tells you how important it is. It is not a minor detail that can be taken for granted. It is not child's play. Nor is it an area to exercise oppression through.

That's just a couple of thoughts. Those of us who have have had broken marriages, know the shortcomings and can clearly see where our (and our ex-spouse's) kindness, patience, mercy and forgiveness may have been lacking.

And Allah (SWT) knows best.

[inilbowly]

for your post.

... It would make no sense if the husband works really hard for his family and he comes home to the wife being disrespectful etc.
...

Yes, I agree 100%. And if I were a husband I’d very much love to come home everyday to my cheerful loving wife, adorable kids, not to mention a spotless home and a warm dinner. But if we step outside of the home and look at their roles in society, I’m of the opinion that I woman can do all that her male counterpart can do and then some. She can save more lives, help more oppressed, and spread more knowledge than anyone else be they male or female. All she needs is one crucial element and if she manages to acquire this- almost miraculous-element, it’ll make up for all her shortcomings and inadequacies. Now don’t feel left out my brothers, because you too have complete access to this miraculous element that turns Muslim men into real superheroes and no I’m not exaggerating in the slightest. Please tell me what you think this element is brother Kuffs? and if anyone else would like to take a good guess for Allah’s SWT sake, by all means do so.

[Immampdah]

Subhan'Allah, this is exactly the article needed for those sisters who assume they are not equal to men, so when they go outside to the world and commit themselves to work but ignore the nature that Allah has bestowed upon the sisters, the sisters start seeing the negative side of it, because its just un-natural!

I am not a person to say not do work and stay home cooped up in the bedroom, once the duties are done in your daily life and you seem to have extra time, then go do dawah to your community, or help out a charity, instead of looking ways to make money, start looking a way to please Allah, to him we are all equal and we will be judged upon our own deeds.

P.S.
Am not saying to those who have to work to financially provide for their family, what their situation only Allah knows but generally girls of this generation are being brought up on the idea that they MUST work and also be like men, now thats wrong on all levels!

[PoideAdelereX]

Another example for the whisperings of shaytaan thread.

[Meerenuch]

It is reactive to say women ought to stay out of work.

1) Traditionally Muslims did not live as isolated nuclear families with no contact with neighbours and the wider community. Women had a social support structure from other women. Without this we would just have depressed and isolated women at home, not good for anyone. Maybe we should try to do something together as a jamaa.

2) Economics. We are today forced to use bankers fiat money, to get loans, our governments take out loans...we pay the interest with blood sweat and tears...it requires both men and women to work, we are exhausted and stressed....instead of campaigning to change things, doing things as a jamaa to make the economy Islamic and halaal we waste our energy in useless arguments designed to make us all into consumers and workers, and to lose our true focus. Muslim men need well informed, focused and strong Muslim women, and Muslim women need strong, masculine well focused men who will guide and be gentle and wise. Step up to the plate make our lives extraordinary and great for the sake of Allah and the benefit of the ummah.

[feannigvogten]

Good point and a lot of times, we are driven out of our homes and extended communities but also leave on our own accord to find a 'better life' (and often find ourselves in isolation).

[Eeaquzyh]

but generally girls of this generation are being brought up on the idea that they MUST work and also be like men, now thats wrong on all levels!

aoa,
a superb point.

[wmhardware]

Yes, I agree 100%. And if I were a husband I’d very much love to come home everyday to my cheerful loving wife, adorable kids, not to mention a spotless home and a warm dinner. But if we step outside of the home and look at their roles in society, I’m of the opinion that I woman can do all that her male counterpart can do and then some. She can save more lives, help more oppressed, and spread more knowledge than anyone else be they male or female. All she needs is one crucial element and if she manages to acquire this- almost miraculous-element, it’ll make up for all her shortcomings and inadequacies. Now don’t feel left out my brothers, because you too have complete access to this miraculous element that turns Muslim men into real superheroes and no I’m not exaggerating in the slightest. Please tell me what you think this element is brother Kuffs? and if anyone else would like to take a good guess for Allah’s SWT sake, by all means do so.

BTW I’m not a feminist wa na3uthubillaah.. No doubt, there are countless people out there who are smarter than me and more competent but because of the fantastic element they don’t stand a chance in outdoing any possessor of that element. The catch is, it’s very hard to develop it because of the utmost sincerity it requires except, of course, for those whom Allah SWT makes it easy. May Allah SWT help us all. We badly need Muslims with this element today to standup to the bullies of the world and put them in their place.

[ljq0AYOV]

Note: There is nothing wrong with the wife "wearing the pants" in the relationship, having a stronger personality etc. (Again this is in the Hadith)

can you give reference of this hadith?
as far as I know women should not wear men's clothing

[gIWnXYkw]

can you give reference of this hadith?
as far as I know women should not wear men's clothing

He was using an analogy, he didn't mean the wife wearing the 'actual' pants. He meant the wife having a stronger personality.

[SergZHy67]

Contrast the attitudes of today's men and women to the explicit and authentic words of our beloved Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace), to the attitude of the blessed women mentioned here:

By Mufti A.S. Desai:

"Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri (radhiyallahu anhu) narrated that once Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) addressing a group of women said: “O Women! Give Sadqah (Charity) because I have seen you (females) more in Jahannum.” The women enquired: “O Rasulullah! What is the reason for this?” Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “You curse in abundance and you are ungrateful to your husbands. Furthermore, despite the deficiency in your Aql (intelligence) and your Deen, I have not seen anyone more capable of making a moron of an intelligent man.” The women asked: “O Rasulullah! What is the deficiency of our Aql and our Deen?” Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) replied: “What! Is the testimony of one woman not equal to the testimony of half a man? (In other words, the testimony of two women equals that of one man.)” Responding, the women said: “Yes, O Rasulullah.” Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “This then is the deficiency of the intelligence of women.” Then Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “Is it not that when a woman is in the state of haidh neither does she perform Salaat nor does she fast?” The women said: “Yes, O Rasulullah!.” Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) commented: “This is the deficiency of your Deen.” (Bukhaari and Muslim)

While the westernized modern women –the zindeeqahs - of today take umbrage at these holy words of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam), the Sahaabiyaat (the females of Rasulullah’s era) did not feel affronted. They were not annoyed. They accepted wholeheartedly every word spoken by Nabi-e-kareem (sallallahu alayhi wasallam), and they immediately began to give Sadqah generously. They did not belong to the gender-equality mob of mentally deranged characters who seek to invert the natural order of Allah Ta’ala by transforming women into males, and men into females."

[newpiknicker]

Received this in my inbox some days ago:

'Fulfilling the Rights of our Relationships' - Shaykh Husain - www.sacredlearning.org

On March 18, 2005, Amina Wadud led the first female-led jum`ah (Friday) prayer. On that day, women took a huge step towards being more like men. But did we come closer to actualizing our God-given liberation?

I don’t think so.

What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving her value in relation to God—not in relation to men. But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left—except men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man.

When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the “standard” had it.

What she didn’t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness – not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.

For 1400 years there has been a consensus of the scholars that men are to lead prayer. As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading prayer is not better, just because it’s leading. Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn’t the Prophet ﷺ have asked Ayesha or Khadija, or Fatima—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These women were promised heaven—and yet they never led prayer.

But now, for the first time in 1400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, “That’s not fair.” We think so although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind.

On the other hand, only a woman can be a mother. And God has given special privilege to a mother. The Prophet ﷺ taught us that heaven lies at the feet of mothers. But no matter what a man does he can never be a mother. So why is that not unfair?

When asked, “Who is most deserving of our kind treatment?” the Prophet ﷺ replied, “Your mother” three times before saying “your father” only once. Is that sexist? No matter what a man does he will never be able to have the status of a mother.
And yet, even when God honors us with something uniquely feminine, we are too busy trying to find our worth in reference to men to value it—or even notice. We, too, have accepted men as the standard; so anything uniquely feminine is, by definition, inferior. Being sensitive is an insult, becoming a mother—a degradation. In the battle between stoic rationality (considered masculine) and selfless compassion (considered feminine), rationality reigns supreme.

As soon as we accept that everything a man has and does is better, all that follows is a knee-jerk reaction: if men have it, we want it too. If men pray in the front rows, we assume this is better, so we want to pray in the front rows too. If men lead prayer, we assume the imam is closer to God, so we want to lead prayer too. Somewhere along the line we’ve accepted the notion that having a position of worldly leadership is some indication of one’s position with God.

A Muslim woman does not need to degrade herself in this way. She has God as a standard. She has God to give her value; she doesn’t need a man.

In fact, in our crusade to follow men, we as women never even stopped to examine the possibility that what we have is better for us. In some cases we even gave up what was higher only to be like men.

Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were told that it was women’s liberation to abandon the raising of another human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society—just because a man did it.

Then, after working, we were expected to be superhuman—the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker—and have the perfect career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers and soon recognized the privilege we’d given up.

And so only now—given the choice—women in the West are choosing to stay home to raise their children. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies, and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be at home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to ‘financial obligations.’ These ‘obligations’ are imposed on women by the gender sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender distinctiveness of Islam.

It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.

Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be something I’m not – and in all honesty – don’t want to be: a man. As women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.

If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and heaven at my feet—I choose heaven.


May the blessings of Almighty Allah be on you

[actifadepette]

Received this in my inbox some days ago:

'Fulfilling the Rights of our Relationships' - Shaykh Husain - www.sacredlearning.org

On March 18, 2005, Amina Wadud led the first female-led jum`ah (Friday) prayer. On that day, women took a huge step towards being more like men. But did we come closer to actualizing our God-given liberation?

I don’t think so.

What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving her value in relation to God—not in relation to men. But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left—except men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man.

When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the “standard” had it.

What she didn’t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness – not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.

For 1400 years there has been a consensus of the scholars that men are to lead prayer. As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading prayer is not better, just because it’s leading. Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn’t the Prophet ﷺ have asked Ayesha or Khadija, or Fatima—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These women were promised heaven—and yet they never led prayer.

But now, for the first time in 1400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, “That’s not fair.” We think so although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind.

On the other hand, only a woman can be a mother. And God has given special privilege to a mother. The Prophet ﷺ taught us that heaven lies at the feet of mothers. But no matter what a man does he can never be a mother. So why is that not unfair?

When asked, “Who is most deserving of our kind treatment?” the Prophet ﷺ replied, “Your mother” three times before saying “your father” only once. Is that sexist? No matter what a man does he will never be able to have the status of a mother.
And yet, even when God honors us with something uniquely feminine, we are too busy trying to find our worth in reference to men to value it—or even notice. We, too, have accepted men as the standard; so anything uniquely feminine is, by definition, inferior. Being sensitive is an insult, becoming a mother—a degradation. In the battle between stoic rationality (considered masculine) and selfless compassion (considered feminine), rationality reigns supreme.

As soon as we accept that everything a man has and does is better, all that follows is a knee-jerk reaction: if men have it, we want it too. If men pray in the front rows, we assume this is better, so we want to pray in the front rows too. If men lead prayer, we assume the imam is closer to God, so we want to lead prayer too. Somewhere along the line we’ve accepted the notion that having a position of worldly leadership is some indication of one’s position with God.

A Muslim woman does not need to degrade herself in this way. She has God as a standard. She has God to give her value; she doesn’t need a man.

In fact, in our crusade to follow men, we as women never even stopped to examine the possibility that what we have is better for us. In some cases we even gave up what was higher only to be like men.

Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were told that it was women’s liberation to abandon the raising of another human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society—just because a man did it.

Then, after working, we were expected to be superhuman—the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker—and have the perfect career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers and soon recognized the privilege we’d given up.

And so only now—given the choice—women in the West are choosing to stay home to raise their children. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies, and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be at home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to ‘financial obligations.’ These ‘obligations’ are imposed on women by the gender sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender distinctiveness of Islam.

It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.

Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be something I’m not – and in all honesty – don’t want to be: a man. As women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.

If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and heaven at my feet—I choose heaven.


May the blessings of Almighty Allah be on you

Brilliant article.

[tramadoldiscountes]

Mufti Shafi' states in Ma'riful Qur'aan:

Man's guardianship is essential for peace and order

Not giving women their due rights was ranked as injustice, oppression, stinginess and villainy which was erased by Islam. Similarly, leaving them to go their way with an unbridled liberty from the guardianship and care of men, and to make them earn their own sustenance and life support amounts to wasting her rights and destroying her genius. Neither does she deserve that fate in view of her physique nor does that great mission of bringing up children and the charge of family management, which has been naturally entrusted to her, deserve it. In addition to that, women are, when deprived of the guardianship and care of men, a great danger for the whole human society, a situation that is bound to create all sorts of disturbances, including riots and bloodshed, as a matter of daily routine. That is why the noble Qur'an, while stating the mandatory rights of women, also declared that is, men are a step above women which, in still other words, amounts to saying that men are responsible for them as their caretakers.

As it was in the first age of ignorance before Islam, all nations of the world, by keeping women as a household item or a dumb animal, had fallen prey to this mistake. So it came to pass that, following Islam's age of decadence, there started a later age of ignorance. Here the first mistake is being matched by yet another mistake, as a reaction in the opposite direction, when efforts are being made continuously to get rid of even this much degree of precedence men have over women. As a result, obscenity and shamelessness became common, the world became a home of conflicts and disorder, and bloodshed became so cheap that the first age of ignorance remained no match anymore. There is an Arab saying: which means: The ignorant man never stays on moderation. If he decides to stay from acting excessively, he slides into a behaviour of neglect.

This is the prevailing attitude in the world of today. There was that time when they were not even prepared to call or understand women as a member of the human race. Now they have advanced to the limit that the 'yoke' of man's guardianship and caretaking of women, which is perfectly wise and suitable universally for men, and women, is being thrown away, the ill consequnces of which are becoming visible everyday. And believe it, unless they bow down before this noble statement of the Qur'an, such disorders will go on increasing day by day. Governments today make new laws incessantly to bring peace into the world. New institutions are established for this purpose. Millions are spent but the source of disorders goes unnoticed by them. If a Commission of Inquiry was to be established to determine the causes of disorder, bloodshed and internecine wars, it is likely that the cause of more than fifty percent of such crimes will turn out to be woman and her unbridled freedom. But, in the contemporary world, the prevailing pursuit of desires has confounded even the best of minds. No corrective check against the worship of desires is even entertained.

May Allah Almighty enlighten our hearts with the light of faith and help us act according to the guidance given in His Book and in the conduct of the Holy Prophet because that is our blessed capital both in in this world and in the Hereafter.

A Conflict and its Resolution - We find out from this verse that the Qur'an tells the husband and wife about duties assigned to each, whereby men have been placed under obligation to give women their rights, in the same manner as women have been placed under obligation to give men their rights. This indicates that each party should watch out on the fulfillment of its respective duties rather than go after demanding rights. And should they succeed in doing so, the very issue of demanding rights will cease to exist, because the duties of men are the rights of women and the duties of women are the rights of men. When duties are taken care of, rights will be automatically fulfilled. These days the root of all troubles lies in the attitude of people who are alert to their rights but negligent of their duties. As a result, rights are demanded on a war footing as is evident from the current confrontation between governments and masses, husbands and wives and between other authorities and their challengers. This indicator of the Qur'an has modified the confrontational aspect of the issue by stressing that everyone should make all possible effort to fulfil his or her duties and when it comes to his or her own rights try to overlook any infringements gently, forego and forgive. If this teaching of the Qur'an could become common universal practice, homes, families, even countries and governments will find that most of their conflicts have been resolved for good.

Man's higher position over woman is for discipline only

A universal system in the world, the human nature and the best interests of women themselves required that men be not only given a particular sort of controlling and care-taking right over women, but that it be rather made incumbent on them. This is what has been stated in the verse : 'Men stand care-takers of women.' But, this does not necessarily entail that all men are superior to all women because being superior in the sight of Allah wholly depends on belief and good conduct. In Divine dispension, the increase or decrease in degrees operates in synchronization with the degrees of belief and conduct. Therefore, in matters relating to the Hereafter, it is not necessary that men alone should continue to have that step or degree above women. This too is possible and, as elaborated in Qur'anic verses and Hadith narrations, this is what would come to pass - that some women, through their obedience to and worship of Allah, will become superior to many men with their degree of precedence rising higher than many a men.

Although the Holy Qur'an, while describing the injunctions of Shari'ah, according to its own clear stress, declares that men and women are absolutely equal and the injunctions where there is some difference have been expressly explained, but the address is generally to men and the gender used is masculine. This treatment, however, is not peculiar to the noble Qur'an. Governments too, use the masculine gender in their laws fairly commonly, although the law is universally applicable to men and women both. One immediate reason for this is the very difference identified in the verses of the noble Qur'an, that is, for men there is a step above women. The second consideration, perhaps implied here as well, may be that satr (concealment) is better even when there is a discussion about masturat (women: the concealed ones). But, when women realized that the noble Qur'an does not address them directly at various places like it does address men, the venerated mother of the faithful, Sayyidah Umm Salmah pointed this out to the Holy Prophet and thereupon the following verse of the Surah Al-Ahzab was revealed: "Submitting men and submitting women, believing men and believing women, obedient men and obedient women ..." (This appears in details in Nasa'i, Musnad Ahmad and Tafsir Ibn Jarir etc.) where women were clearly and expressly identified along with men which implies that the status of women is no less than men in obedience to Allah and in His worship, in being near Him and His approval, and in the ranks of Paradise.

According to a report in Tafsir Ibn Kathir, some Muslim women came to the the blessed wives of the Holy Prophet and asked about the general absence of any mention of Muslim women in the Holy Qur'an, while it does mention men at several places, and also refers to the blessed wives of the Holy Prophet , from among women. Thereupon, the verse referred to above was revealed. To sum up, it can be said that a certain measure of precedence and authority in regulating the affairs of worldly life is for the good of women and that wisdom so dictates. Other than that, there is no difference in the reward and retribution for deeds, good or bad, and in the degree of merit attained in the Hereafter.The same subject appears in the noble Qur'an with much more clarity in the following manner: "And whosoever male or female, does a righteous deed, while he (or she) is a believer, we shall assuredly get him (or her) to live a goodly life." (16:97)

After these preliminary remarks let's ponder over the words of the original verse under discussion. It was said: "And women have rights similar to what they owe" that is, their rights are incumbent upon men similarly as the rights of men are incumbent upon them. Here the rights of women were mentioned before the rights of men, one reason for which is that man after all, given his physical power and God-given precedence, manages to wrest his rights from women anyway. The concern should be for the rights of women since they cannot habitually wrest their rights by force. There is yet another hint here which suggests that men should take the first step to give the rights of women. However, the similarity and equivalency declared by the use of the word mithl (like, similar) in the text here could just never mean that the kind of job men do should also be done by women, or vice versa, because the distribution of work and respective duties for men and women are naturally different. In fact, it means that it is obligatory that rights belonging to both be observed equally and mutually and that the punishment for any negligence or shortcoming be also equal.

It is worth observing at this point how the noble Qur'an has, in a sentence so small, miniaturized a whole roster of rights and duties since all rights women have over men and all rights men have over women are included under the sense of this verse. (Muhit) Simply by adding one more word (bi l'ma'ruf: justly, uprightly, kindly, courteously, according to the practice approved by the Shari'ah, or simply - "as recognized", a closer expression used in the accompanying translation of the verse) the possible occurrence of mutual controversies was eliminated. It was established that rights should be given using the ma'ruf method because the meaning of ma'ruf includes that which is neither prohibited nor impermissible under the dictates of the Shari'ah nor does it have any element of hardship or excess under common habit or custom or 'urf. The purport is that observing the routine of legal provisions is not enough, instead, it will be examined that, according to 'urf or customarily approved practice, the other party does not in any case suffer from pain or loss. That which is judged to be a source of pain and loss, in view of 'urf, will be forbidden and remain impermissible, for instance, coldness, indifference or such behaviour or conduct which causes pain. These can hardly be covered under an article of law but the word bi l'ma'ruf does encompass them. After that it was said: 'Though for men there is a step above them.' The well-known meaning and sense of this verse is that despite the rights of the parties being equal, Allah Almighty has bestowed upon men a certain degree of precedence and authority over women. That there is great wisdom in doing so has been hinted at by the use of the words "And Allah is Mighty, Wise" towards the end of the verse. Giving the meaning of this sentence, Sayyidna 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas has added that Allah Almighty has given men a degree of precedence as compared to women, therefore they should act with much more forbearance. Even if women fall short of giving them their rights, the degree of their precedence is such that they should bear by it, be patient and do nothing to desist from giving them their rights. (Qurtubi)"

[spaxiaroorbes]

In western society they are starting to say men are inferior and unnecessary, homosexuality is being promoted and a real war against masculinity. I believe this is because women and men who have been feminized are easier to control and manipulate.

http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2...men-necessary/

[greekbeast]

Beautiful, one of the best threads ive seen here for a very long time!

[Super-Luser]

From the NY Times article:

Seems to me we are standing at a moment in time when the role of gender — of parents, of children — is shifting seismically. And at this moment an argument can be made for two separate narrative threads. The first is the retreat of men as this becomes a woman’s world. This is definitely part of the signs of the Day of Judgment, perhaps others can elaborate on this issue.

[kavaTeexy]

From the NY Times article:



This is definitely part of the signs of the Day of Judgment, perhaps others can elaborate on this issue.

Which article is this?

[Trercakaressy]

^

Wa Salam

From the article: Are Men Necessary?

http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2...men-necessary/

[minowz]

In western society they are starting to say men are inferior and unnecessary, homosexuality is being promoted and a real war against masculinity. I believe this is because women and men who have been feminized are easier to control and manipulate.

http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2...men-necessary/

Brother Abu Zakir summarized my observations - more succinctly than myself, perhaps.
Nonetheless, I feel compelled to comment and extrapolate further.

The feminization of men could also be stated as the emasculation of men in that feminization in and of itself is not inheritly bad or negative, only that it carries a debilitating characteristic and negative connotation when applied to men and masculinity in particular.

Thus, the feminization and emasculation of men is part of the Global War on Men. But the War has largely been won against all other men.

The War has continued in particular as a War on Muslim Men.

There are many many evidences to support this until it is no longer a theory, but a conclusive reality.


For my dear respected brothers in India, I apologize in advance for this reference.

The reference is to 'Reza, Spice Prince of India' a Food Network show produced from UK wherein the host, Reza Muhammad, travels around India tasting and showing how to cook various Indian cuisine. However, Reza is a flaming, effeminate queer who's mannerisms are demostrative of emasculation, effeminacy, homosexuality, debasement, humiliation, degradation of men.


-mod clip- music/pics of ghayr mahram

In a land of over 1 billion people, over 177 million of whom are Muslim, and this despicable is given global satellite show broadcasted around the world?


The War on Men in general has largely continued unabated and is sustained by the global elite establishment who stretch across every nation, but are led by America and Britain in particular. As Abu Zakir mentioned feminized men, but also juvenilized men are easier to control. As well, men who are undereducated- dumbed down- are easier to control as well. Hence, public education promotes both feminization and indoctrination into secular liberal ideology.