[Controller]

I wanted to know any brothers or sisters on here have permission from there sheikh to recite dua e saifi after isha like me. If so what are your experiance so i can compare mine with those of yours. Anyone that doesnt know what dua e saifi is defination below. Ive been reciting this dua for few months now and have seen hrd and experiance all sorts of things alone in my room when reciting. Just wanted to gain any person opinion who recites this daily.

dua e saifi is by imam ali moula mushkil kush alyusaalam and gouse azam rehmatullaah
this dua have 70,000 thousend angels and 70,000 moukillat means security and 70,000 jinnat being in the presence of that person when reciting. If no permission dont risk reciting this dua can harm you very badly.

Cant wait for your feedback.

Jazakallah

[Sniliabiz]

dua e saifi is by imam ali moula mushkil kush alyusaalam and gouse azam rehmatullaah
this dua have 70,000 thousend angels and 70,000 moukillat means security and 70,000 jinnat being in the presence of that person when reciting. If no permission dont risk reciting this dua can harm you very badly.

Cant wait for your feedback.

Jazakallah

How do you know all this?

[Scukonaher]

How do you know all this?

How do i know what that 70,000 of angels, moukilats and jinnat our in presence. Dua e saifi in the quran this was told by Angel jibreel A,S to prophet muhammad saw who shared with hazrat ali R,A. Which hazrat ali kept hidden to himself until one day a well known badshah had lost everything to his enemy and came to hazrat ali he wrote this 34 page dua for him and after reading the dua the badshah gained everything back he had lost and much more. I see if i can find the hadith verse etc for you to clarify yourself. Plus this is the dua ghaus e azam had recited on daily bases and gave this to Abdul Qadir Jilani. use google all info there avail http://www.************/forums/topic...ah-istighatha/

[Diwokfkq]

How do i know what that 70,000 of angels, moukilats and jinnat our in presence. Dua e saifi in the quran this was told by Angel jibreel A,S to prophet muhammad saw who shared with hazrat ali R,A. Which hazrat ali kept hidden to himself until one day a well known badshah had lost everything to his enemy and came to hazrat ali he wrote this 34 page dua for him and after reading the dua the badshah gained everything back he had lost and much more. I see if i can find the hadith verse etc for you to clarify yourself. Plus this is the dua ghaus e azam had recited on daily bases and gave this to Abdul Qadir Jilani. use google all info there avail http://www.************/forums/topic...ah-istighatha/

Can you paste the hadith with the reference and which muhadditheen approve the hadith?

[KitRittyTug]

How do i know what that 70,000 of angels, moukilats and jinnat our in presence. Dua e saifi in the quran this was told by Angel jibreel A,S to prophet muhammad saw who shared with hazrat ali R,A. Which hazrat ali kept hidden to himself until one day a well known badshah had lost everything to his enemy and came to hazrat ali he wrote this 34 page dua for him and after reading the dua the badshah gained everything back he had lost and much more. I see if i can find the hadith verse etc for you to clarify yourself.

you mean a hadith which is 34 page long

[toreesi]

you mean a hadith which is 34 page long

DUA SAIFEE - WRITTEN BY SHAYKH SYED ABDUL QADIR
GILANI (RA)

http://www.qadri-naushahi.com/Resour...Dua_Saifee.htm I would paste on there too long. Plus its in images. Im suprised you dont know about this powerful dua if not satisified with my proof you can ask your shiekhs they be able to explain it better than me to you.

[NowFloabDow]

this was told by Angel jibreel A,S to prophet muhammad saw who shared with hazrat ali R,A.

DUA SAIFEE - WRITTEN BY SHAYKH SYED ABDUL QADIR
GILANI (RA)

didnt you say it was given byJibrail(aw) to porphet(saw) then to ali(rd)?

Im suprised you dont know about this powerful dua

am also surprised how i didnt came across this fabricated narrations.

if not satisified with my proof

did you quote any hadith books name bro? i missed it.

[freevideom]

Im looking for it ive got this dua e saifi in 5 surat book at home has loads of dua and wazif in it and its all in urdu and i dont know urdu besides the arabic text. But far as i know The above is correct and that Ghuase E azam would recite this on daily bases and as its been told Abdul Qadir Gilani Ra had written it. From Mufti Ansar Ul Qadri i spoke with had talked me its orgin so i detailed it above where it came from. Jibreel to Prophet then to Ali, Ali to some Badshah and from there own been based down through the tarqia i guess. but inshallah i get the proper hadees to clarify.



Rest of The dua Saifi: http://www.qadri-naushahi.com/Resour...Dua_Saifee.htm

Urdu Translation I think : http://issuu.com/with_hu_presenter/docs/dua-saefi

[Erawise]

Jibreel to Prophet then to Ali, Ali to some Badshah

its been told Abdul Qadir Gilani Ra had written it.

see the contradiction brother? once you say sh.abdul qadir(rh) wrote it but then you say jibrail(aw) told it. so who told to whom and who wrote?

The things which were said by jibrail(aw) to prophet(sw) do ONLY exist in hadith book. If anyone claims those things exist other than hadith book, then its a lie and fabricated. we should stay away from this and save us from hell.

[Andrius]

I recited a bit of it, nothing happened to me.

[BonjGopu]

I recited a bit of it, nothing happened to me.

Madani Punj (5) Surah Book its in there Dua E Saifi Along with others lol at sueiman recite the whole dua by yourself in room make sure your in wudu and do it after isha namaz and let me know how you get on for few days. Im telling you what a Mufti told me regarding dua e saifi. He told Me Jibreel A.S told Prophet Muhammad S.A.W and he passed this powerful Dua on to Hazrat Ali. Ghaus e azam recited this dua and from what i googled up is that apparently Abdul Qadir Jilani R.A had written it but been recited and passed down through the Tariqa. Ive Got Permission from my sheikh and found the dua e Saifi in Madani Punj Surah Book. Im Not Mufti Or Alam I asked question if any one of you brothers or sisters have permission to recite this if so what are your experiances. Where going off topic here atm. Your all alot older than me and more knowledgable and senior members of this website.

[lopesmili]

Okay Here is the proof I hope you can read urdu as ive taken images out of the book along with its urdu information pages. Let me know what it says im gonna get my parents to read it out to me.

[alias]

see the contradiction brother? once you say sh.abdul qadir(rh) wrote it but then you say jibrail(aw) told it. so who told to whom and who wrote?

The things which were said by jibrail(aw) to prophet(sw) do ONLY exist in hadith book. If anyone claims those things exist other than hadith book, then its a lie and fabricated. we should stay away from this and save us from hell.

Well thanks for clarifying this but ive posted images from the book and the information regarding dua e saifi so if you know urdu be kind of enough to translate to english and i get my parents to read it out to me. jazaklaah

[Qnnoshxj]

Just read the scans u posted. There is no chain, no book mentioned, no narrators no muhadditheen mentioned, nothing at all... seems like a big lie.

Let me summarize.

[TimoDassss]

A very accepted dua is by the name of Dua e Saifi or Hirz e Sahaba or Hirz e Yamani. THe sanad of it is that it was taught to Rasool Allah by Jibreel alaihi assalam then to Ali . It is called Hirz e Yamani because one of the kings of Yemen was defeated and kicked out from Yemen by another King. He tried very hard to get back his land but to no avail. After some time he came to Ali and asked for spiritual help. Hazrat Ali told him this dua and he read it. He conquered his land again after reading this dua. The dua gained popularity between Sahaba and Tabieen after this.

It reached Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA). He was the first Amil of this dua. He used to read it. Once he came out for namaz an eagle did beet on him. He looked at the eagle and it died. Then he started crying. Khadim asked why are you crying? He said i've read this dua so much that my eyes my hands everything has become a sword of Rahman. This dua will keep on hanging on the skies till the day of Qayamat. Then he took of his shirt, washed it and gave it to some poor as Fidya for the dead Eagle.



Finish...

No narrator, no book, no muhaddith, no chain, no nothing...

[drexigordiche]

Atleast you cleared it up so the Mufti Ansar Ul Qadri From Noor Tv was right about its orgins that was taught to prophet saw by jibreel and being passed to ali and some badshah obtaining it from my previous posts. End of the day im reciting this and i feel and see the barakats of reciting this dua so i really dont care what anyone says. Dont believe me than thats your opinion why not recite it your self constantly for few days or even week after isha or fajr and see what happens. No harm in trying right.

[Qutlsilh]

Atleast you cleared it up so the mufti was right about its orgins that was to prophet saw by jibreel and being passed to ali and some badshah obtaining it from my previous posts.

So you will accept it without any authentic chain of narrators? Without an authenticity from Muhadditheen? just because a mufti says JIbreel brought it, ull accept it?

Tomorrow I publish a book and write in it that Mikaaeel came to Rasool Allah and taught him this and that. You'll believe it?

[Aceroassert]

Atleast you cleared it up so the mufti was right about its orgins that was to prophet saw by jibreel and being passed to ali and some badshah obtaining it from my previous posts.

Now let me clear up why this is a fake !

At the time of Hazrat Ali the whole of Jazeeratul Arab including Yemen was under Islamic Rule. Why would a king attack a yemeni king when there was no king at that time?

Even if we assume that the king was a muslim governer and a kafir attacked yemen, it would not mean that the king would try himself to gain back the land. Hazrat Ali being the Khalifah would send an army of muslims to get back the land. Teaching one dua and sitting doing nothing doesn't seem very appropriate.

This is enough to open one's eyes into accepting that its non sense.

[iroxmxinau]

Look taliban im a guy who doesnt believe this that easily until i dont try or see for my self. Im 20yrs old, sunni and sufi practising mureed of sinsial owaisi. My peer o murshid has told me to recite this and thats what im doing. Im gaining benefits spiritually and seeing things with my own eyes it cant be more authentic than that And my heart tells me its right. Im not stupid in any sense and have common sense to understand what right and wrong and alhamduliiah your older than me i respect you but i shall contact my local mosque imaam tomo and local mufti to clarify this for me. Jazallah

[RLRWai4B]

Now let me clear up why this is a fake !

At the time of Hazrat Ali the whole of Jazeeratul Arab including Yemen was under Islamic Rule. Why would a king attack a yemeni king when there was no king at that time?

Even if we assume that the king was a muslim governer and a kafir attacked yemen, it would not mean that the king would try himself to gain back the land. Hazrat Ali being the Khalifah would send an army of muslims to get back the land. Teaching one dua and sitting doing nothing doesn't seem very appropriate.

This is enough to open one's eyes into accepting that its non sense.

Okay this is like saying you believe in allah right? have you seen him prove it to me,

You breath in oxygen right? can you see it but you feel it prove to me exists.

If you have issues with authencity of it ask your sheikh or your scholar or sumthing. Like i said i always try things and like to see for myself and if i see or hear things or feel spiritually different than i believe it. I follow my heart and my heart tells me its fine. Like i do zikr i thought was nonsense at first your soul leaving the body and being in another place doing zikr and your heart doing zikr, what i did was try it for my self and experianced the benefits of zikr and happy that i did.