[steansathtpos]

I don't mean to offend (I always end up saying that when I'm about to speak honestly) but sometimes it sounds as if people are painting guides as 'servants'. Apparently, they're here at our beck and call, their sole purpose for the remainder of our lifetime to help us. Maybe it's just me, but thinking of them like that seems a bit disrespectful. I mean, they're the older, wiser ones, so long as we're still in physical bodies right? In some religions, it's humans who 'serve' God, etc. Why should it be the other way around for guides?
I've read posts that may have explained briefly why guides supposedly spend our whole lives doing what we need them to. The spirit world seems so vast, and it doesn't seem 'right' for people to know everything about it. Well, who am I to say, maybe people do know a lot about it :P
Maybe I'm only brave enough to ask this because recently I broke off a friendship because my sole purpose seemed to have been to serve their delights. My angry thoughts were, 'what right do you have to even presume to know and think to control me? I deserve to be respected, I wasn't born just to help tie your shoes. If you're not going to stop treating me like a servant, then why don't you just do it by yourself?'
Well that was the gist of it, anyway. Anyway, that went slightly off track :P

[GSgCGxsF]

from where i see it they don't see it as being servants. they do it out of their love for us. it is hard for us to understand "why" they do it since we are human. I don't see my guides as "servants" I see them as my helpers. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

[Qesomud]

Well, a guide and a servant are 2 different things. They are not necessarily "wiser" they just know more than we do at this time.

A guide, when you are on a trip knows about the place you are visiting and offers up things to do, better places to eat, etc because they live there and you are visiting.

Guides in the spirit world are much the same way. They are not servants lol though I wish!! They point us to the right direction, they can help us, if we ask, when we need something to enhance our life but in no way are they servants.

Look up both words in the English dictionary. It might help you. There is a big difference.

I don't mean to offend (I always end up saying that when I'm about to speak honestly) but sometimes it sounds as if people are painting guides as 'servants'. Apparently, they're here at our beck and call, their sole purpose for the remainder of our lifetime to help us. Maybe it's just me, but thinking of them like that seems a bit disrespectful. I mean, they're the older, wiser ones, so long as we're still in physical bodies right? In some religions, it's humans who 'serve' God, etc. Why should it be the other way around for guides?
I've read posts that may have explained briefly why guides supposedly spend our whole lives doing what we need them to. The spirit world seems so vast, and it doesn't seem 'right' for people to know everything about it. Well, who am I to say, maybe people do know a lot about it :P
Maybe I'm only brave enough to ask this because recently I broke off a friendship because my sole purpose seemed to have been to serve their delights. My angry thoughts were, 'what right do you have to even presume to know and think to control me? I deserve to be respected, I wasn't born just to help tie your shoes. If you're not going to stop treating me like a servant, then why don't you just do it by yourself?'
Well that was the gist of it, anyway. Anyway, that went slightly off track :P

[Karinochka]

Greys,
One thing you have to remember is our life time is very short compared to eternity. The spirit guides are learning from this too & may even find us a little entertaining. They choose to do this. They know us & we know them much better that you can imagine, because we don't have the memory of knowing them in other lifes. You may have been their guide in one of their lives.

There are probably many guides & many humans that are working on anxiety now as they are other diseases & disorders until they wipe them out. They say earth is a school. I would imagine that you can learn a lot by guiding someone that is on earth, just as the earth bound learn a lot.

With Angels it is different. They don't come to earth & have to go though this ordeal. So things are different for them. If I had a choice, I'm not sure I would choose to come to earth. Of course since I can't really comprehend eternity & the spiritual realm I have know idea what I would choose to do if I had a bigger picture.

I am going to start reading up on soul families & maybe then I will get a better idea of everything. Just remember, I still consider myself a newbie to all this. I know I have a lot to learn & am probably the last person that should be trying to put perspective on this subject. But as you know I have always felt a connection to you. I still remember wanting to take a bat to a certain old grumpy man, that I felt was too harsh with you & all of us boring newbies in his eyes. He's not been here for a long time, but I still wonder why he was so grumpy. I will have to admit, he was smart about some things or maybe even a lot of things. I also knew under all his harsh remarks that he was a nice guy. I have to add the last comment just in case he still checks in.

[intorkercet]

Interesting questions. I don't view the guide/human relationship as slavery, but I know that some people rely on guides for way too much. Some people call on their guides for every little decision or issue in their life, but if we don't lmake our own decisions, how are we to learn?

Currently I have a guide who protects and advises me, but does not butt into my life unless I am somehow endangered. As long as I am safe, he helps and advises me only if I ask. And yes, he finds my day-to-day floundering and self-doubts rather amusing lol.

This guide, when I asked him what I should call him, answered simply "Friend." Friend has made it clear that we have known each other for a very long time, as part of a "soul group." He is gaining knowledge and insight by watching earthly life from a new prospective, watching as I make decisions in the physical, as he once did.

Of course, he has access to a different level of understanding. He seems to know a good deal about my reasons for incarnating, but will not share them with me. His job is to learn and guide, not to live my life for me.

Angels I don't truly know that much about, except that they have never incarnated. I'm not convinced that I have a 'guardian angel' though I would very much like to believe it.

[vulikox]

It's always refreshing to read differeing insights and explanations and thoughts. Too bad they're not always the exact same, but then that would make life too simple and even unfair, because if we can't even decide our own truths that just sounds like every bad system I've ever heard about.

I guess I only asked this because maybe everyone's wording is different, and like BlueTiger mentioned, some people may rely on their guides for the most trivial thing. I'm not really one to say what to ask your guide for help though. Personally, just knowing they exist might just be enough for me. But I do know myself, and I know that I will always want more, so hopefully if I do get to know my guides, I will be wise enough to "drive myself around" at the very least without relying on them.

Lemongrass, I remember! But "grumpy" people also seem to be the most blunt, and blunt always seems to be honesty in a sea of sugar-coated words. He was right that I really need to be dedicated in all this in order to get anywhere, and maybe just wanting relief from panic attacks won't be enough of a catalyst, let's call it, to become spiritual. Plus I need to learn to find determination in meditating, at the very least.

I almost refuse to think of guides as "servants" :P And I try not to think about what eternity really signifies, it's difficult enough staying grounded as it is.

Maybe I just need to read other perspectives that portray guides more as "guides", and less as our personal butlers?