[huntbytnkbel]

i was thinking about the idea of traveling light years.
say your physically on earth and you want to go to a place that is 500 light years away.
you know that the place is soo far away that the light from the star your looking took thousands and thousands or millions years until you could see it....and for all you know that place may not even exist anymore.
you decide to go there anyway and it takes just a few days to get there. you visit and come back to earth.
did you time travel?

im no astrophysicist, but if a star your looking at is 500 light years away, i dont think it will take you thousands or millions of years until you could see it, it would take you 500 years wouldnt it?
i think you could reach there and back well within 500 years, but i wouldnt classify it as time travel.

as an object travels at speed it begins to gain mass, the greater the speed the greater the mass of an object. time is relevant to mass, therefore as your mass increases due to speed, time will decrease relative to the craft in comparison to earth time. as the ship decreases speed it looses mass and therefore time increases until it reaches our norm at a near static position.

does this "equation" contain "gravity"? if so, what if u took it out of the equation?
like if a craft has an anti-gravity field around it, would that be kind of a loop hole to not gain mass?
to add to this; doesnt gravity effect light? so the light we would see is not in a straight line, but is bent, due to all the gravitational forces in space along the way. so think of the light of the star streaming at you all bent and wobbly. now, a craft with an anti-gravity field/drive wouldnt get the effects of gravity that the light does. this would allow it to travel(@ speed of light) in a straight line, making it a shorter distance and the time it takes you to travel should be shortened also.

thank you for all your replies..

i posted this question after reading and listening to various testimonies from people saying they visited other planets, solar systems and galaxies. some say they were gone for a couple of days or even months as [private message for name please] claims. i started wondering what is really happening when one is traveling long distances in space coming from our 3d point of view.
thanks again for your interesting replies...

im gonna take a stab and say that none of the testimonies u have seen/heard said that the methods of travel were nowhere near as crude & primitive as what we use/know about in the public today.

i think the problem is that we have been programmed so that when we think of space travel we think of current conventional means. i think the public has been dumbed down about gravity by tptb for a very important reason. not many people would want their rats out of their cage would they?

ps: can gravity travel faster than the speed of light?

[gDGwm8BC]

sure gravity can travel as fast as the mass creating it...like artificial gravity on a ship....gravity is a force and light is a substance.
a black holes gravity sucks stuff in faster then the speed of light...lol..has too or it wouldn't be a black hole.

[Poothevokprot]

depends how you got to the star. did time pass the same for you as it did the rest of earth? even so, time view is relative. if you lived on a star ship that constantly traveled near the speed of light, time would appear to move very slowly compared to the time on earth. who's time measurement is more valid, earth or the sub light star ship? are they travelling through time?

we all travel through time...time is a constant, how it is viewed is relative. moving through time is much like running my finger over the width of a book. i can choose to move my finger slow or fast....either way all the edges are already in place.

[Gubocang]

i was thinking about the idea of traveling light years.
say your physically on earth and you want to go to a place that is 500 light years away.
you know that the place is soo far away that the light from the star your looking took thousands and thousands or millions years until you could see it....and for all you know that place may not even exist anymore.
you decide to go there anyway and it takes just a few days to get there. you visit and come back to earth.
did you time travel?

[Patabeamn]

interesting. there must be a point along the route in which your time existence matches exactly with the star's time being viewed. and then what happens; do you and the star begin sharing the same time existence?

or do you ever even reach a point where the light shining on you is in your time? are we perpetually bathing in light of the past?

it is very odd to think that when we look up at the stars we are viewing the past. not our past, but the past of the stars. yet, it is in the present, which makes it easier to understand infinity, no?

[ditpiler]

interesting. there must be a point along the route in which your time existence matches exactly with the star's time being viewed. and then what happens; do you and the star begin sharing the same time existence?

or do you ever even reach a point where the light shining on you is in your time? are we perpetually bathing in light of the past?

it is very odd to think that when we look up at the stars we are viewing the past. not our past, but the past of the stars. yet, it is in the present, which makes it easier to understand infinity, no?

my thoughts say that you time travel by going outside of time and stay in that moment and move to and appear in that designated space

this would, i gather, happens on a 5th dimensional level.

priest of light

[dmoiknlasd]

well according to conventional physics travelling 500 light years in a number of days is impossible!! i suppose it never stopped us before.

at light speed it would take you 500 years to reach said star.
to reach it in a few days would require faster than light travel (which i've read isn't strictly impossible due to the expansion of the universe, though i could be wrong).

time slows down the faster through you go in space. according to special relativity the combined speed of any object’s motion through space and it’s motion though time is always precisely equal to the speed of light, so the faster you go through space the slower you go through time.

i suppose if special relativity is at least partly right (and wrong in the sense that you can travel faster than light) then the faster you go, beyond light speed, then time goes backwards or you travel through time....??? but if it goes backwards then after a while youll just end up not arriving at your destination at all only back in time before you set off...

quite strange

[Fededorbprago]

as an object travels at speed it begins to gain mass, the greater the speed the greater the mass of an object. time is relevant to mass, therefore as your mass increases due to speed, time will decrease relative to the craft in comparison to earth time. as the ship decreases speed it looses mass and therefore time increases until it reaches our norm at a near static position.

as an example, the earth's shape shifts as it orbits the sun. it is not truly spherical, but in fact elongates from the horizontal to the vertical position (like bouncing a ball in slo-mo). if you were at the peak of the elongation of the earth, time would increase slighty compared to the equator of the earth due to loss of mass, this has been proven.

another example is a black hole, its mass is infinite (as far as we know), therefore it is timeless so to speak. one could stipulate that a blackhole is an object, but because its mass is infinite and timeless, we cannot see it in this dimension of time-space.

as you said, the light from a distant region was created thousands of years ago and the destination may not be there due to the timeline of light travelling, thus you find the paradox of so called time travel, is that basically it is a form of suspended animation at light speed thus preserving the ship and its contents, just like chriostasis. yes, when you return to earth thousands of years will have passed because you were in a preserved state aside of the earths timeline. technically, we do not time travel, it is "preserving time-space".

einstein realised that time and space can bend and contract. the mass of an object (such as earth) bends the time-space around it, therefore creating a specific timeline within that space. at light speed with increased mass, you contract time, slowing down will expand it.

nice question btw

[c2siOlIk]

interesting question. using conventional known methods of space travel, lets just say we could go fast enough , then i believe einsteins theory would say, yes you just time traveled. however, if we were able to use something like an alcubierre bubble to travel, then no time difference occurs. an alcubierre bubble, in theory, is a bubble of normal space time that moves through out space.

[bomondus]

well according to conventional physics travelling 500 light years in a number of days is impossible!! i suppose it never stopped us before.

at light speed it would take you 500 years to reach said star.
to reach it in a few days would require faster than light travel (which i've read isn't strictly impossible due to the expansion of the universe, though i could be wrong).

time slows down the faster through you go in space. according to special relativity the combined speed of any object’s motion through space and it’s motion though time is always precisely equal to the speed of light, so the faster you go through space the slower you go through time.

i suppose if special relativity is at least partly right (and wrong in the sense that you can travel faster than light) then the faster you go, beyond light speed, then time goes backwards or you travel through time....??? but if it goes backwards then after a while youll just end up not arriving at your destination at all only back in time before you set off...

quite strange

i not sure from where, but a theory in quantum physics states that time overlaps itself and everything is happening all at once. if everything is happening at once, then you can be at all places at all times. traveling a distance is irrelivant then.

[verybigf]

thank you for all your replies..

i posted this question after reading and listening to various testimonies from people saying they visited other planets, solar systems and galaxies. some say they were gone for a couple of days or even months as [private message for name please] claims. i started wondering what is really happening when one is traveling long distances in space coming from our 3d point of view.
thanks again for your interesting replies...

[MyOwnStyle]

It just floors me how scientists 'think' time travel really works. So far, they just dont get it. The secret is hyper-dimentional convergence, not some silly tube of laser light to 'open a wormhole' in the labratory. What scientists are doing wrong - is trying to time travel in space-time, without even thinking how easy it would be in time-space! What really needs to be done is to push an object, or human, past light speed (which could be done with vibrations, DUH) and you can simply walk around in time-space and noticably time travel when you return. Because of the earth rotating, walking east or west would determine if you travel to the future or the past! Scinentists need to WAKE UP!!

[casinobonbone]

I am doing my best to grasp the idea that if time is 3 dimensional, then space is one dimensional and that would be the clearest path to travel through time. It is very difficult to reiterate, but the meaning rings true. According to David Wilcock’s book, the Source Field Investigations, on page 268, Dr. Dewey Larson “built a very successful model of our Universe, beginning in the late 1950s, by assuming time has three dimensions”, calling this Theory the Reciprocal System.

I am willing to accept that a single person could find themselves in a brief moment to be in harmony with parallel dimensions, with respect to space being three dimensional as they enter said moment. I would venture to say that I have experienced this reaching sensation that could be described as touching parallel dimensions. The best I could describe these moments is that they have weightlessness about them. Whether or not I was in a state of being that could travel through time I don’t know. I did not exactly leave my body or see my body from the outside (I’ll save that story for a different discussion). I can honestly say that my entire being was willing to be very still and perhaps this is simply meditation.

My question is this, to anyone who has studied science more in-depth: Does the idea of space being one-dimensional translate into a human’s perception of yielding individual conscious intent to the singular source, described as the gravitational forces that exist within matter?

Here’s another far out question: If a human was able to completely dissolute their 3 dimensional being in space to travel through 3 dimensional time, is there any chance that another human with equal will and intent could cause the traveler to remain in 3d space through their learned/perceived spiritual attachment. The attachment would be like that between twins, for example.

I will continue to read the Source Field Investigations, found at my local library by the way.
Peace be with all who read this,

-Queeny

[LOVEBoy]

I have been doing a little reading on electrogravitics and we have already created devices that could travel faster than light. The gravitational propulsion system creates a localized gravitational field. This field can move through space without inertia and make harrowing turns at immense speeds with the passengers feeling like they are stationary. Since this field is stationary in relation to the passenger the field is free to travel at super light speed. The type of movement is characteristic of UFO sightings. Assuming someone is taken aboard a ship with this propulsion system then they would be able to travel 500 lightyears very very quickly.