[AngelBee]

after everything david and everyone on this site have spoken about and hoped for, for what seems like an eternity - the white house now declares there have never been visitations by aliens from another planet - at least according to aol. what gives?

[Elissetecausa]

i know how this can seem discouraging, but this has been the official white house stance for decades.

all we can gather from this is that at the present time, the obama administration has either not been tasked with putting a seal of approval on a carte blanche revelation of the existance of extra-terrestrial civilizations, or (which seems much more likely to me) the administrative heads in the government are in the same boat as us - those who would be tasked with responding to these petitions have no knowledge or evidence which would be considered official evidence intended for the public domain.

if, as we have read previously, the et issue has been considered above top secret, one can imagine that any office of the white house tasked with public policy in early 1945 would have had no knowledge of the manhattan project (the secret government/military/industrial project tasked with developing the atom bomb).

it may also be that the idea of interplanetary explorers from other planets 'outside' of our world may be only the thinnest surface aspect to a much deeper reality which may be hyper-dimensional in nature and be more closely connected with issues of consciousness itself. aside from very few people who may have dwelled at the very top of secret societies for millenia and have maintained 'occulted' connections with extended aspects of conscious manifestation, it may be that the real first steps in disclosure began as the so-called representatives of humanity - ie., the military and intelligence circles... as closeted and compartmentalized as this has been - became aware of seeming outside influence.

over time the 'national defence' concerns may have been complicated by the apparent ''high-strangeness" phenomena associated with magical seeming encounters on the part of the military and intel communities. quite possibly, the continuation of the ultra-secretiveness of these things stemmed from the perceived potential on the part of these power-seeking wards of humanity to gain for themselves super-human privileges, arcane knowledge and super-technology... all for the ends of cementing and intensifying their hold on humanity... intensifying their own power and grandeur.

like a twilight zone episode where the guy gets three wishes and his greed serendipitously proves his undoing, these guys through their own folly may have actually served as mankind's collective shadow side, led by divine intervention to see themselves for what they have allowed themselves to have become, while at the same time - as they cease to be a secret power unto themselves - provide the means with their noisy and desperate thrashing for us to become aware of their presence and influence as more and more of us do the research necessary to get at least some idea of what is going on behind the scenes.

imagine if you will a person who does the grunt work of self-examination and digging through the deeps of their own inner psyche, discovering, analysing and defusing their hidden pain thus rendering the 'insane' pieces of themselves which have dwelled in the hidden shadows to no longer have the power to influence them unconsciously.

if the negs who are associated with the coverup are discovered by us en-masse, seen as our own un-owned-up-to aspects and taken responsibility for (rather than continued attempts to cut them out and repress them), it may be destiny that their ability to affect us without our permission fades like a shadow at dawn, and all the beautiful and marvelous things which have been buried like treasure for so long by the human race will come welling up to the surface, unstoppable henceforth; as we have done the shadow work and given permission collectively for this family reunion to happen. aspects of consciousness may have to be taken responsibility for and brought back to love.

this could actually be a story of mankind's mental, emotional, spiritual and physical re-integration, with dark recessed aspects which represent our collective shadow-side re-uniting with the conscious being as with a healthy psyche which confronts, takes responsibility for and illuminates the repressed shadowy aspects of itself.

perhaps certain members of the obama administration are aware of a much bigger story than crashed discs in new mexico, yet it's not, imo, for the white house to tell us what is going on - it's perhaps more rightly something for us to wrestle through ourselves. mark

[SDorothy28]

i have link with the clinton administration that reports they are real......pm if you want it.

good night.

[Rabbahpuptiopp]

i have always believed that there is a distinct difference between what we are told and what we know to be true. mainstream science discounts intuitive knowing, but for those of us who understand that pure knowing comes through the subconscious, we are more inclined to trust that intuition. our governments may claim that ets don't exist or that contact has not been made, but i know in a way that is wholly intuitive that they are there, that there are objects and entities that cannot be seen but can be sensed.

ultimately, we don't need "father" to provide disclosure. understanding and incorporation of the law of one makes disclosure superfluous. just as we are aware of our bodies as a unified whole, we can also be aware of the universe itself as a unified whole. babies spend their early months "discovering" that their fingers and toes actually belong to them. as 3rd density beings we're experiencing the same sort of thing in terms of our connection to and oneness with creative infinity. as we grow towards a higher vibration of consciousness, we will realize that these so-called extra-terrestrial and supernatural phenomena are truly parts of ourselves.

[kvitacencia]

basically the white house is saying there is no 'proof' that they know about, or are allowed to share.

that's not to say a company like lockheed martin has no 'proof' either.

it just means the people we look up to as 'leaders' have no proof.

[JeffStewart]

any psychologist would agree here that the best way to repress mass hysteria is to have a neutral stand on the issue and not pick sides. if they are picking sides it means they are still hiding things and are still attempting to disinform the public. if there really were no aliens, there would not be opposing information leaking from the government... and it does, so there is a counter argument... if there wasn't, why would the gov be discussing these issues? why would the vatican (was it in 2008? cant remember) have a meeting of all the main bishops (or whatever they are called) on the issue of extraterrestrial life and how it would effect the christian believes...
this is such a silly attempt at covering it up that it is worthless of attention; we just have to keep pushing and eventually we will get our way.
just remember, the same amount of the public that wants this to be true, doesn't want this to be true. some people aren't ready for this... and we must respect them and their choice.

love and light,
ra ma

[JAMES PIETERSE]

there's zero (0%) chance that world governments will admit that ets are real, simply because earth government are involved with the regressive ets back to the 40's and 50's where secret treaties were made between the governments and the regressive. example: a technological carrot was dangled so they negatives would have access to human dna.

[Quvwcxqx]

i know how this can seem discouraging, but this has been the official white house stance for decades.

all we can gather from this is that at the present time, the obama administration has either not been tasked with putting a seal of approval on a carte blanche revelation of the existance of extra-terrestrial civilizations

mark.

the earth governments will never disclose the existence of ets because they themselves are involved with these ets in secret treaties and backroom deals, mostly with the negative ones. example : ets dangled a technology carrot, earth governments approved access of human dna to the regressives. to admit that ets exist, governments would have to explain the lies they have carried over for the last 50-60 years.

[russianstallian]

it was never there for the "government" to share this information. the "government" is only there to play the part of the "magician". the real trick is happening where most of the people of the world are not looking. if someone smart "figures out the trick" and has the balls to put it on national television, they will be hunted down by other "magicians".

most people do not want to know how the trick works. they would rather be in awe of the magicians abilities.

*poof* there are other worldly civilizations visiting this planet... 'oooooooooo' we are now a part of the intergalactic network! 'aaaaaaagggghhhh' *clap clap clap*

[raskrutkaseo]

i'm not so sure that those who we hold to be our elected representatives are those who have been so involved, in recent generations. it would be hard to spread this conjecture across all the governments of the world, but it would seem likely that the elected officials in many cases are not in the 'need to know' loop.

an interesting study can be made of jfk's purported attempts to glean info from the intelligence community.

my earlier post goes into some areas of how mankind may have somewhat collectively disowned its responsibility for itself, or at least may exist in a state of having allowed 'someone else' to shoulder responsibility for the ills of the world. if we have collectively repressed our sense of responsibility for our state of being as a whole, we may have tacitly invited negative effect to creep in to the very areas in which we choose not to invest ourselves, hence rendering said influence to operate from invisible platforms.

with this, we may not be surprised to find that those dark shadowy places which we have not yet opened to the light by our own choice are free to be occupied by principalities which are invisible to us - conditions which have a less than loving, non-reasoned or rationalized propensity to hold some degree of sway over us, in the same way that less than loving life choices by an individual may garner karmic cycles of mirroring to the individual the ultimate repercussions of their actions. possibly the world will seem unloving, cold and heartless in ways which reciprocate the inner state of relative, conditional love. really, an oxymoron, conditional love! i love you, but not him... bollocks him...

our elected officials represent our investment into the issues of politics and economy, areas in which we do invest ourselves, but it may be that the true domains of that which seems to oppress us by way of our seeming subjection to 'exterior' control and enslavement are the areas in which we have not opened to collective love-scrutiny.

so to sum up - our governments as we know them represent our conscious awareness and our state of relating to the world as we know it. negative influence is characterized as being hidden from conscious awareness, as in repressed, unexplored/resolved pain and sense of separation from source. here, our collective experience with that which seems evil and negatively influencing and out of our ability to rectify may actually be a divine kick in the a$$, only designed to mirror our real condition back to us and catalyse our further exploration of love.

we may also consider the question of a wider galactic community of more cohesive and unconditional love, which i personally feel is ever-present and waving to us in our reality, but which we have not yet collectively entertained or invited in, yet. while individuals may make their own breakthroughs, we as a whole may be in a situation whereby we cannot perceive this in the sense of group consciousness/mass-disclosure until we have collectively broken into those darkened and untrodden null voids which we have as a race and which we have not visited as a group and invested in, in a more cohesive, intelligent, all inclusive love, negating negative reactive influence as a result. first things first!

putting the onus on governments to do this 'on our behalf' may be an abrogation of the intrinsic potential of the masses to make this happen.

whether we seek understanding of why so much messed up things go on with us, or whether we seek clear and unequivocable communion with the vast and present community of universal love, our visible elected governments may only come to be in a position to help us in this regard depending on the effort of the masses - us many wee guys and gals - to explore, expose and illuminate our shadow side with that which tips the beam towards unconditional love; as we may have hitherto blocked this disclosure potential by our own less than inclusionary and unconditionally loving ways.

i do believe that we are getting there, as it seems many are coming to own their responsibility to find it within themselves to love themselves and all others unconditionally. we write our own story, come what may. mark

[TerriLS]

why don't you just provide the link or evidence?

i have link with the clinton administration that reports they are real......pm if you want it.

good night.

[Scukonah]

isnt that what they just said!!? to pm for the link?