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gimffnfabaykal 08-29-2012 02:13 AM

First thing I would do is offer paying for replacing the two chickens, that's a minimum, and promise that this was the first and last time it ever happened to avoid the dog being PTS, then take all the preventive steps outlined by others.

Obviously a dog is a dog is a dog, no matter what breed, and as others have said there is a lot of discrimination against APTBs and other similar breeds.

I remember when I was little kid, around 8 years old, going to my uncle's ranch like every summer, they had just received two new puppys, xGSD, to add to his previous dogs already used to be working there, well one afternoon I went to visit the little shed in wich his chickens had the nests, and one of them had just a few hatched egs, so I go in and when leaving I let the door open, next thing we know one of the puppies went in and play with every one of the littles ones, never bit them to draw blood, he just took them by the head like a toy and shake them, they didn't kill the dog obviously (anyway no neighbourghs around for many miles to be worried) I was scolded for leaving the door open and the dog grew to be a great working dog.

Eddy

VastDrura 08-29-2012 03:05 AM

You are totally, 100% at fault for what happened. I hope you learn from your mistake, which cost your dog his life and also added fuel to the anti-Pit Bull movement.

Hire a lawyer and find out if AC was within their rights to confiscate and destroy your dog.

Cersdog 08-29-2012 03:30 AM

My frck'en chihuahua's would go after a chicken! Most dogs would kill a chicken if left alone with one.

AnypecekceS 08-29-2012 04:01 AM

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My frck'en chihuahua's would go after a chicken! Most dogs would kill a chicken if left alone with one.
Yes. One of my neighbors Shih Tzu dug under two fences and killed 3 chickens and the owner got a slap on the wrist.

Konidurase 08-29-2012 04:22 AM

I was just gonna say the same thing, I have a shih tzu, and 2 APBT mixes. All 3 would kill my chickens if they had the chance. My Shih tzu would kill as many as he could catch.

My neighbors APBT have killed several of my chickens... all of my silkies and a few layers. After many times of this happening, we did call the police. We did not file a report after the officer told us what could happen to the dogs. I would never sentance a dog to death, even though I love my chickens.
Some people do not understand that chickens can be pets too. They know their names and are actually interacting pets. Maybe your neighbor felt his chickens were his pets, not just a food source.
Either way, I agree, a 6 foot fence is nothing for a dog of any breed. Never leave a dog unattended.
I don't understand why your dog was PTS so quickly. No hearing? Did you sign the dog over? Is there laws against Pit bulls in your county? There has to be a reason they put your dog down so quickly.

GtmFeqJJ 08-29-2012 04:48 AM

Sorry about your dog.
Not sorry about the chickens. Chickens are evil.

VEGLAS - SPB 08-29-2012 04:53 AM

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Sorry about your dog.
Not sorry about the chickens. Chickens are evil.
But they are tasty. One of those things that bring humans and dogs together...a mutual love of noms.

deethythitoth 08-29-2012 04:48 PM

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But they are tasty. One of those things that bring humans and dogs together...a mutual love of noms.
Lol.. I didn't mean for everyone to get mad at me . I wasn't posting this so everyone could say it was my fault. I've never had a dog that could jump a six foot fence, my mistake. I would appreciate if everyone would stop jumping on me about it. They made my parents sign something. & YES we paid for the chickens. Idk what kind they were. They did call the animal control on us once before, but thats just because he was barking and wouldn't stop, they told us to put a muzzle on him and I refused.

PyncGyncliacy 08-29-2012 05:25 PM

I didn't mean for everyone to get mad at me .

Of course not.

I wasn't posting this so everyone could say it was my fault. I've never had a dog that could jump a six foot fence, my mistake.

We know. How many dogs have you had? Was the fence chain link. If so your dog probably did not jump it, he climbed it.

I would appreciate if everyone would stop jumping on me about it. They made
my parents sign something. & YES we paid for the chickens
. Parents always wind up paying for the mistakes of their kids. I am not a fan of kids owning pit bulls. Do some research and know what kind of escape artist you are getting.

They did call the animal control on us once before, but thats just because he was barking and wouldn't stop, they told us to put a muzzle on him and I refused.
Ah they had already called animal control. A muzzle doesn't stop barking so they must have had some concerns the dog might bite something that mattered to them. Whether they were right or wrong obviously they were concerned about your dog and how it would effect them. Rather than refusing them it might have been in your and your dogs best interest to address their concerns and eliminate the risk. I have a very funny feeling your parents did not want to stop the euthanasia of your dog. How much did your parents approve of this dog. Did they like him?

I think the problem most folks have with your post was that they sensed there was more to the story. Everybody expects a dog to kill chickens and was shocked that AC would kill a dog for something like that if it was a first offense. Now if the parents have had enough and do not want the dog back (as they probably would not release the dog to a minor or a person who is not owner of the property where the dog lives) then yes that dog winds up dead.

bugagasikaga 08-29-2012 05:33 PM

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Agreed.

OP, I hope this is the only lesson you need in proper containment. A chain link is just not enough to hold in a determined dog. Even a 6' privacy fence is no match. Learn how to set up a proper chain spot or keep your dog contained indoors.
Agreed this is a pretty awful lesson as to why proper containment is so important.

RaicickKida 08-29-2012 06:00 PM

I'm sorry this happened to you. It's easy to say that this dog needs to be contained and controlled. But even in the best of circumstances a dog can slip away. I don't know what it's like in other states, but in Michigan a farmer can kill any animal that is harming or killing his livestock of any kind. And homeowners are allowed to kill any animal that is deemed a pest, in or out of season, or whether they have a hunting season or not. The exception being endangered animals, hawks, etc. In our rural area there are many farm animals and people regularly shoot coyotes, foxes that get in a henhouse or raccoons etc. However, I don't think most of them would shoot and kill a dog for two chickens, they might catch the dog and make sure the owner pays for the animals. I can't imagine they would call animal control, most of them would take care of this themselves. And except for dogs that bark constantly all night, I can't imagine anyone here complaining that a dog is barking - it's a dog - they bark.

Sounds like a combination of intolerant neighbors, and an animal control that is hyper sensitive about pit bulls. It seems extreme to me that they wouldn't write you a citation and just make sure you paid for the birds. Of course it's always the responsibility of the dog owner to see that their dog doesn't get out, but this seems awfully extreme to me, especially if this is in the country.

enurneAcourdy 08-29-2012 06:11 PM

I think the key here is that the parents "signed something". You may find that the dog was relinquished to AC for their "disposal". Truly sad and I'm sorry for your loss.

pobrierce 08-29-2012 06:29 PM

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I didn't mean for everyone to get mad at me .

Of course not.

I wasn't posting this so everyone could say it was my fault. I've never had a dog that could jump a six foot fence, my mistake.

We know. How many dogs have you had? Was the fence chain link. If so your dog probably did not jump it, he climbed it.

I would appreciate if everyone would stop jumping on me about it. They made
my parents sign something. & YES we paid for the chickens
. Parents always wind up paying for the mistakes of their kids. I am not a fan of kids owning pit bulls. Do some research and know what kind of escape artist you are getting.

They did call the animal control on us once before, but thats just because he was barking and wouldn't stop, they told us to put a muzzle on him and I refused.
Ah they had already called animal control. A muzzle doesn't stop barking so they must have had some concerns the dog might bite something that mattered to them. Whether they were right or wrong obviously they were concerned about your dog and how it would effect them. Rather than refusing them it might have been in your and your dogs best interest to address their concerns and eliminate the risk. I have a very funny feeling your parents did not want to stop the euthanasia of your dog. How much did your parents approve of this dog. Did they like him?

I think the problem most folks have with your post was that they sensed there was more to the story. Everybody expects a dog to kill chickens and was shocked that AC would kill a dog for something like that if it was a first offense. Now if the parents have had enough and do not want the dog back (as they probably would not release the dog to a minor or a person who is not owner of the property where the dog lives) then yes that dog winds up dead.

I've had three all together, an Am Staff/Border Collie cross... Jordan (The APBT in this post) & now I have my brindle pit bull..

I'm not sure if they liked him or not, they did get annoyed with him, but never really payed attention to him.

Accecyncphory 08-29-2012 06:58 PM

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I think the key here is that the parents "signed something". You may find that the dog was relinquished to AC for their "disposal". Truly sad and I'm sorry for your loss.
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BINGO Joe Bingo - I am also sorry for the dog and its owners loss. I would probably be looking at the parents as the primary reason this dog lost its life over a couple of chickens. The dog was already causing issues with the neighbors and the chickens were probably the last straw for mom and dad. Paid for the chickens and axed the dog. Again a pit bull pays for the actions of men.

XU8i6ysK 08-29-2012 10:59 PM

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I think the key here is that the parents "signed something". You may find that the dog was relinquished to AC for their "disposal". Truly sad and I'm sorry for your loss.
I agree sounds like they relinquished the dog to AC. Right or Wrong it happens more often than you think, sadly.

OP, I'd ask your parents if that is what happened. Because being that they signed something and then the dog was put down ASAP leads one to believe that is probably what happened. Honestly the only people with the answers to your question about the dog being put down like that is probably your parents. You might want to talk to them and find out exactly what happened. How long ago did this happen?

MackBranon 08-30-2012 02:06 AM

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Lol.. I didn't mean for everyone to get mad at me . I wasn't posting this so everyone could say it was my fault. I've never had a dog that could jump a six foot fence, my mistake. I would appreciate if everyone would stop jumping on me about it. They made my parents sign something. & YES we paid for the chickens. Idk what kind they were. They did call the animal control on us once before, but thats just because he was barking and wouldn't stop, they told us to put a muzzle on him and I refused.
you posted this so everyone could tell you that animal control acted wrongly. Unfortunately, what you're not wanting to hear is that you and your family are at fault. Yes, it was an accident but in life you don't always get a do-over. And I do think there is more to this story because animal control doesn't insist a dog be muzzled just for barking. It sounds like there's a dangerous dog ordinance or something. And you didn't comply with animal control. Oy. Pit bull ownership isn't a god-given right. You have to comply with the laws and regulations, and animal control. They can absolutely do whatever they want to your dog if you're violating a regulation.

I'm sorry about your dog. Many of us have learned a lot by making mistakes with our dogs, but unfortunately sometimes you don't get a second chance.

lXvtm0ox 08-30-2012 05:16 AM

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But they are tasty. One of those things that bring humans and dogs together...a mutual love of noms.
True!
I've never been attacked by dog, but I have been attacked by a chicken. Evil birds!!

Anaerbguagree 08-30-2012 05:42 AM

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True!
I've never been attacked by dog, but I have been attacked by a chicken. Evil birds!!
hey now, not all chickens are mean. it depends on the breed and gender. I have only had a few chickens i had cockerels that i no longer have because the city wouldn't let me keep them. i had a barred rock he was nice, a buff oprington cockerel super sweet then i had a bhrama cockerel that bird was constantly biting me. now i only have females i have a buff orpington and 2 kelsos (game hens) and they are all extremely sweet birds.

Immarsecice 08-30-2012 03:40 PM

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R u gonna do anything about it? Cuz that aint right

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what can she possibly do about it?? smh.....

kranfid 08-30-2012 04:14 PM

I'll be honest, Sam is a chicken killer too. She busted her metal chain before to run over to my neighbor/uncle's house and get some nummy chicken grub.

Lucky for me, it was my uncle. We paid for the chickens, plus I live in Mexico where there is no AC or Pit Bull discrimination. I certainly learned my lesson about the capabilities of Bully breeds and I hope you've learned your lesson too.

These dogs are strong, atheltic and determined. If you wish to continue to own them take the extra precautions necessary to avoid another unnecessary death.


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