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Acciblyfluila 08-28-2012 11:32 PM

Not fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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This was an APBT that I got off of craigslist, his name was Jordan, I have a question. We have a well fenced back yard w/ a six foot chain link fence, he some how managed to escape and messed up two of our neighbors chickens, I'm not quit sure why, but he did. He had never went after any animal, we had him living with my old Am Staff cross and our Golden. He never harmed anyone. Our neighbors called the police and they came and took him from me, that night they put him down. Was that even fair to him? Should they have put him down just that quick? He was only two, he never saw chickens before. I honestly don't think he was trying to hurt them, he played rough with our cat all the time, never harmed her. I miss him terribly and to this day I'm still pissed off that they took him and killed him just like that. They said because he was a Pit Bull, he'd always be aggressive after that. I don't believe that is true one bit! And it's not fair is it? I even tried getting him back, they wouldn't let me. They put him in the pound before he got put down.

rowneigerie 08-28-2012 11:35 PM

where do you live?

NowFloabDow 08-28-2012 11:36 PM

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where do you live?
In Oregon

avdddcxnelkaxz 08-28-2012 11:45 PM

Dogs killing chickens is very common since the dog usually sees them as prey animals. I don't know where in Oregon you live but I do know there are many places where pitbulls and mixes are not discriminated against.

While the AC officer was probably correct that the dog would always be a chicken killer, saying he was always going to be "aggressive" is misleading and wrong.

I'm sorry your dog had to give his life in this situation. In the end, YOU are responsible for not containing him properly. Leaving any athletic and active dog loose in a yard is just asking for them to get out either by digging or climbing the fence (6ft is nothing to most pitbulls). Learn from this and make sure you keep your dog contained in the future.

Ccddfergt 08-28-2012 11:47 PM

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Dogs killing chickens is very common since the dog usually sees them as prey animals. I don't know where in Oregon you live but I do know there are many places where pitbulls and mixes are not discriminated against.

While the AC officer was probably correct that the dog would always be a chicken killer, saying he was always going to be "aggressive" is misleading and wrong.

I'm sorry your dog had to give his life in this situation. In the end, YOU are responsible for not containing him properly. Leaving any athletic and active dog loose in a yard is just asking for them to get out either by digging or climbing the fence (6ft is nothing to most pitbulls). Learn from this and make sure you keep your dog contained in the future.
Well the people I had got him from said he's always been an outside dog, so I didn't think anything of it. My mistake..

Hammaduersnes 08-28-2012 11:57 PM

Tiffany, I hope you learned something from this and if you get another dog, will be a little more cautious.

lammaredder 08-28-2012 11:58 PM

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Eh ... Rather it be true or not is not for us to judge.

Tiffany, I hope you learned something from this and if you get another dog, will be a little more cautious.
I have another dog. The brindle in my pictures. Shes my baby http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/biggrin.png, she's an inside outside dog, she's only outside with someone watching her though.

iioijjjkkojhbb 08-28-2012 11:59 PM

R u gonna do anything about it? Cuz that aint right

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Vomazoono 08-28-2012 11:59 PM

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Dogs killing chickens is very common since the dog usually sees them as prey animals. I don't know where in Oregon you live but I do know there are many places where pitbulls and mixes are not discriminated against.

While the AC officer was probably correct that the dog would always be a chicken killer, saying he was always going to be "aggressive" is misleading and wrong.

I'm sorry your dog had to give his life in this situation. In the end, YOU are responsible for not containing him properly. Leaving any athletic and active dog loose in a yard is just asking for them to get out either by digging or climbing the fence (6ft is nothing to most pitbulls). Learn from this and make sure you keep your dog contained in the future.
Agreed.

OP, I hope this is the only lesson you need in proper containment. A chain link is just not enough to hold in a determined dog. Even a 6' privacy fence is no match. Learn how to set up a proper chain spot or keep your dog contained indoors.

Abaanto 08-29-2012 12:01 AM

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R u gonna do anything about it? Cuz that aint right

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Is there anything I can do since it's already done?
I've never had anything like this happen before.

Xfxhbcxp 08-29-2012 12:03 AM

did they give you a citation or anything

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famosetroie 08-29-2012 12:05 AM

Story sounds believable to me. Pit bulls are good escape artists and there is nothing unusual about a pit bull wanting to kill small animals or even large ones for that matter.

The most believable part of the story is another pit bull owner saying this
"I'm not quit sure why, but he did. He had never went after any animal, we had him living with my old Am Staff cross and our Golden. He never harmed anyone."

Your dog did not harm anyone, he went after chickens. As predictable as the sun rising. Wake up. If you own a pit bull, keep it away from other animals you don't want injured or dead. PERIOD

"I honestly don't think he was trying to hurt them, he played rough with our cat all the time, never harmed her."


You are only lucky the cat was never harmed. Allowing your pit bull to play rough with your cat is irresponsible. Fur mommyism at its best. Now you have neighbors who think pit bulls are killers. Your dog did nothing wrong I feel bad for it. It's owner let him down by not understanding he is a highly prey driven dog and by not ensuring proper containment. Sorry

Oh and one more point nothing like this ever happened before but the dog turned two years old and was no longer the puppy you brought home. Frankly be thankful the cat was not the first victim. Animal aggression showed up in your dog right on schedule. Do research.

I am surprised a dog gets put down for killing chickens on a first offense. I might ask if your neighbors had an issue with dog before. Did they ever have to call animal control prior to the incident. Also if not, your neighbors are ass holes to have a dog killed for chasing chickens.


foodselfdourileka 08-29-2012 12:26 AM

Personally I think there's more to the story than we're being told ... but it could have gone down just as stated depending on the locality and AC.

Here where I live, I have seen a pit bull put down by AC for turning over trashcans (not the first time) and was deemed a neighborhood nuisance. But the rest of the story is that the owner signed Penny over to AC because they "felt they couldn't control her and she would escape again". Penny was my boy Rowdy's dam and there was nothing wrong with her. Just an irresponsible BYB and an AC with a policy of putting pit bulls down.

Others have pointed out the lessons that should have been learned, some things to do to prevent it from happening again and the truth about bull & terrier temperament. I'm sorry for your loss and hope it never happens again. Your fault, their fault, nobodies fault ... doesn't matter ... the dogs always pay, sometimes with their very life, for the actions of irresponsible owners. Maintain positive control of your pets at all times.

As far as what you can do about it now ... probably not much. You could try and speak with a lawyer familiar with local laws and ordinances concerning pets and animal control, for advice on any legal recourse.

xesvideo 08-29-2012 12:36 AM

What would be more surprising to me is if your dog had escaped and NOT gone after and subsequently killed the chickens. That is what dogs dog...particularly this kind of dog.

Euthanizing a dog for killing chickens is unfortunate and unbelievable to me. I wonder if there is more to the story...

Beriilosal 08-29-2012 12:39 AM

Every time I hear about a pit bull being put down because owners do not accept them for what they are it disgusts me. There is not one reason to allow a pit bull to interact with other animals except the selfish desires of humans trying to either create a Dr. Doolittle utopia for themselves or trying to prove what a great animal handler they are because they can train their dog to go against his own nature. The dogs never really care or benefit from interacting with other animals unless they are mating with their own breed, under the supervision of qualified breeders.

chadnezzrr 08-29-2012 12:40 AM

From what I read the dog was set up for failure by an owner who shouldn't have had the dog. Yes they(AC) will put down a dog for killing chickens. Chickens are food and money can also be made from the eggs and the chickens has/had the right to kill the dog on the spot for the dog killing their chickens,which they didn't seem to take up that right. The same goes for killing a deer out of season for them eating out of a persons garden.

BariGrootrego 08-29-2012 12:41 AM

I'm wondering if there's BSL? That would make more ßense.

Gakeincidoniac 08-29-2012 12:41 AM

I would like to ask a couple questions in addition to Atheist's very good ones. Were these your standard couple chickens or were they those purebred designer chickens? Sometimes the law is harsher the more expensive the property damage. And did you get pressured by AC to sign anything? If so, what did it say?

dfuzioniag 08-29-2012 12:50 AM

I do wonder what kind of neighbor has a dog killed for chasing his chickens when that dog belongs to his neighbor. Unless of course if there have been several incidents between the neighbors prior. Did the OP offer to pay for the chickens and ensure it would not happen again. There are probably details left out of the OPs original story. If not the neighbor with the chickens is a heartless ass even if he was within his rights.

Affiltavajefe 08-29-2012 01:21 AM

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Dogs killing chickens is very common since the dog usually sees them as prey animals. I don't know where in Oregon you live but I do know there are many places where pitbulls and mixes are not discriminated against. While the AC officer was probably correct that the dog would always be a chicken killer, saying he was always going to be "aggressive" is misleading and wrong. I'm sorry your dog had to give his life in this situation. In the end, YOU are responsible for not containing him properly. Leaving any athletic and active dog loose in a yard is just asking for them to get out either by digging or climbing the fence (6ft is nothing to most pitbulls). Learn from this and make sure you keep your dog contained in the future.
This ^^^ . These dogs are wonderful escape artist, and they have an extremely HIGH prey drive. My neighbor put a chicken coup holding 60 chickens right out of reach from her chained pit bull. I told her if he ever got loose, he would kill them. He got loose, and killed all of them.... well, duh!!! You don't put a dog with a high prey drive right outside of the view of chickens and expect them to NOT go after them. It's in their genetics, it's like thinking a cat won't try to catch a bird or a mouse. There's nothing wrong with the dog, it's just a dog being a dog. It doesn't matter what breed the dog is... my Shih Tzu would kill chickens if he could, he chases the cat all the time and tries to "attack" it, and he's 14 years old, going blind and deaf. He has a very high prey drive, has killed a lot of mice and moles in the yard, but I don't think anything about it, and I don't think less of him for doing it. At the end of the day, he's a dog... and a dog is a dog is a dog is a dog, and they will act accordingly. Do I think they acted too swiftly by putting him down? Absolutely!! Is there anything you can do about it? Probably not, except learn from it and not let it happen with your other dog. Don't put her outside unless you are outside with her, and if there are holes in your fence, or places where she can dig out, fix them. If she is a climber, only take her outside on a leash. This breed gets judged quicker than any breed out there, and if your dog had been a Lab that got the chickens, chances are, they would have fined you and sent your dog home with you. But you don't own just any breed, you own a breed that everyone thinks the worst of FIRST, then find out the facts later, if ever. I hate that your dog died for doing something that is normal for any dog, but especially for a breed with high prey drive. I'm sorry that you had to learn this as harshly as you did, but learn from it and make sure that it doesn't happen again. It's a tough break for you, but one that you won't forget anytime soon. http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/frown.png


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