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Old 07-28-2012, 01:52 AM   #1
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Default Never leave two dogs alone unsupervised...?
I was just wondering, do you guys believe this applies to bull breeds only? Would you leave two terriers alone? Two hounds? Labs?

I was just wondering because my dad seems to have learned that bull breeds shouldn't be left alone thanks to Abbey's DA, but he thinks it's stupid that I won't leave Bonnie (my Doberman) and her brother alone unsupervised. He doesn't like bull breeds and doesn't plan to ever own one again after Abbey because he thinks it's a hassle keeping dogs separate when nobody's around. But I think it applies to more than just bull breeds...

What do you guys think?
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:02 AM   #2
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Personally, I keep all dogs separated when unsupervised. I don't like taking a chance
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:40 AM   #3
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No matter what the breed is I would never leave two dogs alone unsupervised. I would be sick with worry just thinking about what could happen.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:26 AM   #4
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Either the dogs are gonna fight over something stupid or get into trouble around the house eating and destroying stuff. I don't like taking chances and crate when I leave.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:37 AM   #5
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for me it depends solely on the breed. terriers, bulldogs, and other working sporting breeds i will not leave together on any circumstances. dogs other than these i cant realy see the trouble they will get into besides destroying the house. for my toy dogs i crate them for that reason and that reason only. fighting amongst them is my least concern lol. i wouldnt leave working labs together, but i never owned them to have a real judgement on them.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:47 AM   #6
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I don't like having to come home from shopping or work or something and have to clean up after the dogs. Regardless of breed, Crate when cannot be watched. Plus any dog has the tendency to fight.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:10 AM   #7
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how about a bishon and a toy poodle lol. believe me these guys cant fight lol. i only put these guys away to avoid a mess in the house not to avoid fights. ive never heard of a toy poodle and a bishon being notable for there fighting tendencies.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:23 AM   #8
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For me, personally, I will always separate my dogs. Regardless of breed or even aggression, I've seen "non-aggressive" breeds turn aggressive toward other dogs randomly. I'm also seen non-aggressive dogs that are still not aggressive just completely destroy, tear up, and break things because they just love being so damn rambunctious. Similar to MJJean's post/reason.

Growing up, I did have 2 outside-only dogs (not bull breeds, Golden Retrievers) that were in a kennel together 24/7. They NEVER once had an issue with aggression toward each other or outside dogs (except the dog that went after my brother and I). I now feel that it was not a wise decision to leave them together like that.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:26 AM   #9
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we had a toy poodlewhen i was a kid and she would fight other dogs her size lol. got along great with the big dogs though.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:30 AM   #10
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We had always left our dogs together and unsupervised (we mostly had labs and shepherds) when I was younger. It wasn't until I moved to the UK that the dogs even had crates. By then my GSD was four and my Husky was two. Pretty much the only reason we crated them in the UK was because the door handles there are insanely easy for our Husky to open and the first night there he bailed out of the house and ran around on base. After that it just became habit.

What is ridiculous is we have two crates. Maddie goes in one, Moose in the other, and Tank hangs out in the same room on his bed. Sometimes I'll say the word "Crate" and they all try to bail into the same one and curl up together. It's so adorable.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:53 AM   #11
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Hard to say.

I definitely wouldn't leave bull breeds or terriers alone and unsupervised.

however years ago when I had my Basset Hound, I didn't think twice to leave her unsupervised for a few hours with my in-laws Pom and English Setter...but then, never were 3 dogs any less intersted in each other, and there were no high value items around...

So in a way I want to say I guess it depends on the breed, circumstances and the individual temperment of the dogs. involved.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:05 AM   #12
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I only crated my rat terrier mutt when he was young and had SA. Once we got him past that, and for the past 8 years or so, he and my shih tzu and maltese (when she was living) were always loose together but in a closed room.

Rather than being concerned about fighting, I always took it as a precaution that if there were ever to be a fire in the house or whatever, if they were contained at least somewhat, they'd be easier to locate.

Now that we have Leo he is always crated when we leave the house. If course he's only 6.5 months so we'll see. Regardless, he'll never be loose with my other dogs. His puppiness is just way too much for my old men.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:08 AM   #13
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you have a good plan.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:19 AM   #14
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My mom leaves her bull terrier, Italian greyhound and Chinese crested out (the bt has attacked the crested a couple times). I've tried telling her she needs to crate the bt but she said its not fair to leave her in a crate for more then a couple hours * face palm* this is the mentality I deal with on a daily basis. I think the crested and greyhound would be fine about together because the crested usually keeps to himself and isn't destructive.
She comes home from work every day though and cleans up piss and shit from the dogs being left out...

I like to keep izzy out because she's a guard dog and I feel much safer with her guarding my house, she isn't destructive at all and never goes to the bathroom in the house. The others all get crated and another dog I had/ have will be too since I like to leave izzy out and dont trust that nothing would happen.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:23 AM   #15
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how about a bishon and a toy poodle lol. believe me these guys cant fight lol. i only put these guys away to avoid a mess in the house not to avoid fights. ive never heard of a toy poodle and a bishon being notable for there fighting tendencies.
....... My grandmother's Toy Poodle who took a chunk out of Dakota's lip would have to disagree. He'll also attack strange dogs on sight, he's latched onto Alice a few times.

I LOVE him, he's an awesome dog. But one should never assume a dog won't fight, every dog has a limit.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:37 AM   #16
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worked for a vet, two brother Lhasas tore each other up one day when left home alone, which never had a problem before, no breeds left alone!
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:36 AM   #17
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after reading on here about I think it was 2 chi's left alone, where the owner came home to a dead dog because they got into a fight I will never leave any breed alone
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:17 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by MisterbonzElirush
how about a bishon and a toy poodle lol. believe me these guys cant fight lol. i only put these guys away to avoid a mess in the house not to avoid fights. ive never heard of a toy poodle and a bishon being notable for there fighting tendencies.






Read more: http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthre...#ixzz21uWMXrEL really this is such a ignorant statement, my toy poodle can easily do damage. Do your dogs have teeth? Then they can fight..
its doesn't matter if they have fighting tendencies if one decides it doesn't want to put up with the other or decides to get aggressive over anything ( and you can say you don't leave toys/ bones out but it can happen over a damn water bowl). And it's BiCHon not BiSHon...
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:22 PM   #19
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i wouldn't leave any dogs alone of any breed especially terriers!
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:54 PM   #20
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As an absolute rule I only apply it to dog breeds that have been selectively bred in the past to have aggression toward other canines.

This doesn't mean there aren't really good reasons for keeping other breeds separated and confined. You don't want your house destroyed? You don't want an unexpected litter? etc etc. Of course this holds for just a single dog too.

However, unless I sense there is a problem, I'd not worry about leaving pretty much any other dog breeds together outside in a high fenced yard.

Remember that dogs derive from wolves, which are a pack animal and the pack is extremely necessary for survival. However, there will still be the occasional show-down over dominance...and a wolf from outside the pack that comes onto pack territory will often be killed.

Dogs still have that same pack need. In fact dogs have been bred to like humans a bit more than other dogs, but it is still all about the pack so a pair of dogs normally get along great.

Dogs derived from the pit fighters come from a group that was bred to be aggressive toward other canines. They are actually bred also to strongly like humans. A pit pup prefers human company to dog company generally a week or two before most other dog breeds. (Although I don't know if this is because they have higher LIKE of humans or because of the DISLIKE of other dogs starts kicking in) This is why two pits that have been fine alone together can suddenly switch and end up with one dead.

ALWAYS keep pits separated when not under your control. Other breeds, judge by the individuals. I've seen some ill-bred cocker spaniels that I'd not trust to be alone together, but it's more the case of I've seen other pairs and triples that I'd never dream of not leaving alone together.
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