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Old 09-28-2012, 09:01 AM   #1
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Default My pits attacked a bear yesterday
Oh well, I suppose it's what they do.

The bear apparently entered my electronic fence perimeter and the pits chased him out. The female ("Peaches") stopped at the fence line but "Hank" went through and tree'd the bear in a large Popular.

We brought both back inside and found a few puncture wounds, likely from the bear's claws. Fortunately, nothing serious. My elderly husky cross had the good sense to stay out of the action.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #2
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Holy crap...lucky they weren't killed. Crazy dogs :P
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:01 AM   #3
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Also...I have to add, electronic fencing really doesn't cut it with this breed at all. You should consider getting something more secure
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:01 AM   #4
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If you live in an area with bears and you're going to have your dogs outside, it's probably a good idea to enclose the property in a manner that'll prevent such animals from getting in. Especially considering what would happen if a mother bear happened across them. While most bears will generally run from a couple barking dogs, there's always the chance that they wont. And then you'll probably end up with dead dogs.

That being said, I'm glad no one was seriously injured.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #5
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If you live in an area with bears and you're going to have your dogs outside, it's probably a good idea to enclose the property in a manner that'll prevent such animals from getting in. Especially considering what would happen if a mother bear happened across them. While most bears will generally run from a couple barking dogs, there's always the chance that they wont. And then you'll probably end up with dead dogs.

That being said, I'm glad no one was seriously injured.
This.

Glad they're ok.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #6
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Yikes! Scary stuff. Livin with the bears is nerve wracking I too live in a heavily bear populated area! Most of the time the bears don't wanna be bothered but sometimes u get that one wit a lotta nerve lol! My Tye saw his first bear last week. He had no idea what to make of it! Lol. I'm glad everyone is safe!
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #7
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my dogs have treed bears before, black bears are usually big pussy's and will run from almost any dog, but there are the exceptions, at the vets office a guy came in with a golden all torn up by a bear, but she cornered it against the house. i can't really avoid bears, i don't have the money to get a fence to take in all of my property, and i don't really want a fence, my dogs will stop if i tell them too, but they keep things away from me when i'm hiking and stuff.There are dogs who are bred to chase bears away GRIZZLY bears, maybe it makes me irresponsible that i'm not getting a fence? i don't know i don't have the money for that stuff.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:01 AM   #8
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my dogs have treed bears before, black bears are usually big pussy's and will run from almost any dog, but there are the exceptions, at the vets office a guy came in with a golden all torn up by a bear, but she cornered it against the house. i can't really avoid bears, i don't have the money to get a fence to take in all of my property, and i don't really want a fence, my dogs will stop if i tell them too, but they keep things away from me when i'm hiking and stuff.There are dogs who are bred to chase bears away GRIZZLY bears, maybe it makes me irresponsible that i'm not getting a fence? i don't know i don't have the money for that stuff.
Well couldn't you put up some type of cheap fence and keep your electric one? Maybe some chicken wire (I think that's what its called) just to deter the bears? Just an idea. I understand tho. Putting up our fence was expensive. We put it up before we got a dog, its only 6ft
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #9
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I don't really see the need to honestly,i've seen more bears than ever this year, and the dogs haven't chased any they have really good recall if i'm out with them, and i see the bear, they won't go after it, the time when they have tree'd bears is usually when someone else has let them outside and didn't go out with them (which pisses me off and my family knows it, but only has to say "Well they won't go anywhere") it also happened twice on a walk, when the bear was INCREDIBLY close to me and the dogs. I'll consider chicken wire, but would that really stop a bear? My property has blue berries and black berries on it, that's generally what they're around for
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #10
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I'll never understand people who own dogs that can't properly care for them. You can't afford a fence? Why do you have dogs? You can't even afford a basic essential item for them. And you have people who have access to your dogs who don't follow your rules...it's like you don't care about them at all.

Clearly you didn't read Libby's story with the bear encounter she had, otherwise you would be more worried about it...and not relying on your dog to listen to you when a wild animal is in the vicinity.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #11
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Wow, glad to hear your dogs are okay.....please do listen to the advice given.

There was a dog here somewhere in Florida who fought an alligator attack in a canal (while on a leash) and survived, just had to have his neck stitched and lost a few teeth. It could have been so much worse, as the stupid owner was walking the dog along the canal, knowing full well there were gators in there. What was he thinking????



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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #12
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Some people do not like fences... I still hate my neighbors dogs coming on my property, but I love sitting on my Lani watching the deer, seeing a Florida panther wander by, bobcats, bear, etc... It is something most people never get a chance to see. I even enjoy watching the coyotes, from a distance. Some people move into the country to be part of it, not block it all away. We were going to fence our yard in after incidences with the neighbors dogs and our chickens, but we have decided against it. We would miss so much of our way of life. My dogs, well they just never, ever go outside without us. Would they chase something if we weren't watching, sure, they are dogs, so we are just extra vigilant.

To the OP; glad your dogs weren't seriously hurt. Are they outside all the time? If not and there are bear around you, I would only let them out with supervision. A momma bear will kill for her cubs. If they are outside dogs, maybe a good size kennel for at night when bears are most active. At least your dogs would be safe.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #13
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Give those dogs a steak for doing their JOBS!!!!

And guys, seriously, I'm pretty sure a BEAR could get through a kennel, a fence etc if it felt so inclined... and if the dogs want to chase or tree it, they can clear a fence to do so. I'm sure the OP is aware of the dangers, and is willing to accept any consequences.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:01 AM   #14
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I'll never understand people who own dogs that can't properly care for them. You can't afford a fence? Why do you have dogs? You can't even afford a basic essential item for them. And you have people who have access to your dogs who don't follow your rules...it's like you don't care about them at all.

Clearly you didn't read Libby's story with the bear encounter she had, otherwise you would be more worried about it...and not relying on your dog to listen to you when a wild animal is in the vicinity.
I can afford proper care for my dogs, both of my dogs get all the vet care they need, Scruffy has had 2 surgerys if i didn't have money to care for my dogs than i wouldn't have been able to afford her ACL surgerys,or Ace's Thyroid meds, if i couldn't afford to care for my dogs they wouldn't have their vacs, they wouldn't be eating over 80$ worth of dog food , i do have the money to care for my dog i own A LOT of land, and trying to put a fence around it would be EXTREMELY expensive, i'm trying to put myself through school i don't have the money for that, my dogs listen well i don't see what the problem is?

And yeah my family sucks, thanks how does that mean i don't care for my dogs? I'm not the one letting them out without supervision, it hasn't happened for 2 years, i've gotten extremely upset about it, but they are my family so i'm not going to stop allowing them to come over.

Don't you dare tell my i don't care about my dogs, my dogs are my world, i don't have a couple thousand dollars to drop on a fence, i need it for other things.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #15
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And if my dogs ever needed serious emergency medical care you can bet your ass they'd get it!
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:01 AM   #16
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I do not think you are a bad dog owner, just cause you can't afford a fence. It sounds like you love your dogs. Fences are optional, and a lot of times it causes owners to be less vigilant about watching their dogs.

I suggested the out door kennel "if" they were outside dogs and you were worried about their safety. I know a lot of people that have outdoor dogs down here and no fences. They love their dogs. If they don't leave their property and are taken care of, there shouldn't be anyone saying a word about their proper care.

Trust me, a black bear will climb/ knock over an 8ft or higher fence if they know there are berries on the other side. If some people here think chicken wire, a wood fence, or even welded wire will keep a bear out, they are wrong.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #17
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Jamie dont bother. One day he will have a horrible encounter and will come wanting us to say how sorry we are because he is the reason one of his dogs got killed.

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #18
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Trust me, a black bear will climb/ knock over an 8ft or higher fence if they know there are berries on the other side. If some people here think chicken wire, a wood fence, or even welded wire will keep a bear out, they are wrong.
Exactly. OP had an electric fence..... obviously when you're dealing with an animal that size (even a black bear, it's still a fucking BEAR) a fence is no more than a costly deterrent. Seems to me there was a time not long ago that people had dogs for this type of situation....hmmmm.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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Exactly. OP had an electric fence..... obviously when you're dealing with an animal that size (even a black bear, it's still a fucking BEAR) a fence is no more than a costly deterrent. Seems to me there was a time not long ago that people had dogs for this type of situation....hmmmm.
Seriously! what if i wanted my dogs to chase bears away from the berries, what if it was MY garden, and i got dogs to keep vermin out, if i provided all them with proper care what's the problem? Dogs doing what the dog is suppose to. I mean that isn't what i got my dogs for but still, there are people who have dogs for that very reason. There are dogs in Africa protecting livestock and villages from big cats. Why don't we just tell all of them to get a fence to "Keep them out" LOL
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:01 AM   #20
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Seriously people! Who are you to judge? How do you know that the OP does not live in the North Woods on 1000 acres of land? How in the world would you or could you fence that in? People come from all walks of life and have different living situations. What will work for someone that lives on 1 acre is totally different situation from someone that lives on thousands. And, I also ask any one of you this, who of you live close enough to bears to actually have them come up onto the land where your home is situated? IT WAS A BEAR!!!
OP, I'm glad your dogs are alright.
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