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freevideom 11-27-2011 12:26 AM

breeders
 
Just wondered what you guys with more knowledge, thought about these breeders? I have the opportunity to move to the states in the next few years but to be honest this is a little more fantasy based. I've fallen in love with dogs from these breeder, are they a good choice?http://www.oldfamilyreds.com/http://...ayskennel.com/

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Damn....Dog Days Kennel • American Pit Bull Terriers

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Old Family Reds | Preserving the Old Family Red Nose Line

PheliarearY 11-27-2011 12:42 AM

If you were able to move here and were able to own a dream APBT, you should aim high and go for a Colby dog.

Veronnisa 11-27-2011 01:41 AM

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If you were able to move here and were able to own a dream APBT, you should aim high and go for a Colby dog.
For an apbt I fully agree Colby all the way

freevideom 11-27-2011 02:07 AM

I'm obviously aware of the history of colby but I get confused about breeding. How many people breed that bloodline, is there any particular kennel you can link me to?

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Plus what are your thoughts on those two kennels? I'm not sure how to judge if they are decent

Creelaleps 11-27-2011 02:30 AM

http://www.colbypitbull.com/

streMunford 11-27-2011 02:39 AM

Dog Days made my laptop freeze up but I got to read a bit of it and they are SHIT!!!!!!! They have bullies and AmStaffs, if you want an APBT, do NOT. Go with OFRN.

I'm not a big fan of Colby dogs myself. I like them but wouldn't want to own one.

WrinnaArraple 11-27-2011 02:48 AM

Dog Days kennel looks like a puppy mill - did you see all the litters they have?! http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/eek.png Not to mention, shit dogs. ONE champion, and they breed every female they have to him. Not very attractive looking dogs, either.

OFRN is good stuff. Colby is good stuff. There is a lot of good stuff out there. Your best bet would be, when you move to wherever you're moving, to attend shows and meet breeders there http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/smile.png

Ebjjrxrd 11-27-2011 03:42 AM

I agree with Teal.

freevideom 11-27-2011 04:03 AM

Sorry just quickly, I think I've got to grips with the am staff/apbt situation and this has thrown me http://nevadakennels.com/femalesIs there a mixture in there? BTW it would be las Vegas if I did move

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Dog Days kennel looks like a puppy mill - did you see all the litters they have?! http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/eek.png Not to mention, shit dogs. ONE champion, and they breed every female they have to him. Not very attractive looking dogs, either.OFRN is good stuff. Colby is good stuff. There is a lot of good stuff out there. Your best bet would be, when you move to wherever you're moving, to attend shows and meet breeders there http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/smile.png
Thanks for this, on closer inspection I see your point. Stay clear of that one. Really am keen on OFRN Appreciative of the history.

WrinnaArraple 11-27-2011 04:13 AM

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Sorry just quickly, I think I've got to grips with the am staff/apbt situation and this has thrown me http://nevadakennels.com/femalesIs there a mixture in there? BTW it would be las Vegas if I did move

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Thanks for this, on closer inspection I see your point. Stay clear of that one. Really am keen on OFRN Appreciative of the history.


What about Nevada Kennels has thrown you? They show UKC/AKC and many of their dogs are dual registered. They also have an entirely separate breed, SBTs.

streMunford 11-27-2011 04:18 AM

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Sorry just quickly, I think I've got to grips with the am staff/apbt situation and this has thrown me http://nevadakennels.com/femalesIs there a mixture in there? BTW it would be las Vegas if I did move
Those are just AmStaffs.

freevideom 11-27-2011 01:58 PM

Right so even though all of those females are amstaffs they be registered as apbt. That's the bit I didn't get. Yeah I'm overly familar with sbt, I've had them before

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*they can be registered as

streMunford 11-27-2011 06:10 PM

Yeah, you can register any AmStaff as an APBT with the UKC, unfortunately.

freevideom 11-27-2011 07:01 PM

Oh I see missed that one, still learning sorry. Though not keen on the am bully I think am staffs look fucking awesome but they aren't apbt, what the ukc on? So stupid

Nikkkola 11-27-2011 09:35 PM

OLd Family Reds is owned by Mike Morgan. He has been into the old family rednose dogs for over 30 years. He knows what a real apbt is. He has the genuine thing. I would take one of his dogs over a pure Colby dog anyday.

The dog day kennel is fairly new to the breed, but is doing extensive health testing. However, those dogs do not have very good pedigrees (last time I looked)and are either pitterstaffs or ambullies. I like pitterstaffs, but do not care for bullies.

Not to rip on Colby dogs, as Louis Colby was a great person(I have heard)...
However every pure Colby dog that I have seen and I have seen about 10-12...were very soft and although pretty, not real drivey or confident. The best ones I see were owned by a couple from out east that weightpull.

moohassinny 11-27-2011 10:24 PM

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Yeah, you can register any AmStaff as an APBT with the UKC, unfortunately.
Where have you been? The practice was stopped about a year and a half ago.*

But yeah, the ones that already ARE dual-registered will remain that way....

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Those are just AmStaffs.
The Nevada females? I looked at the peds of a few of them and they aren't registerable as Am Stafs. One, I don't see any Am Staf names in the peds I looked at; and just ONE UKC-only Pit Bull in a pedigree makes it ineligible for registration with AKC. BOTH parents MUST be AKC-registered for the dog to be registerable as an Am Staf.

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Okay, I found one that is dualed so is an Am Staf (and a Pit Bull with UKC); but not all of those females are Am Stafs.

HBPujWBe 11-28-2011 02:13 AM

Personally I would go with a Midnight Cowboy. I love them

zoneouddy 11-28-2011 08:44 PM

IMO - finding a breeder thru the internet is a very unwise decision.... go to events where these dogs are showcased.... speak with folks.... put your hand out..... gather info.... process that info.... a few years later..... make a decision....

JulietOreira 11-28-2011 09:09 PM

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OLd Family Reds is owned by Mike Morgan. He has been into the old family rednose dogs for over 30 years. He knows what a real apbt is. He has the genuine thing. I would take one of his dogs over a pure Colby dog anyday.

The dog day kennel is fairly new to the breed, but is doing extensive health testing. However, those dogs do not have very good pedigrees (last time I looked)and are either pitterstaffs or ambullies. I like pitterstaffs, but do not care for bullies.

Not to rip on Colby dogs, as Louis Colby was a great person(I have heard)...
However every pure Colby dog that I have seen and I have seen about 10-12...were very soft and although pretty, not real drivey or confident. The best ones I see were owned by a couple from out east that weightpull.
theyre very slow to mature. though most of the colby dogs out there are more show then go now.

personally, most good breeders dont have websites. if you want to find something you like, research, research, research. go to shows, meet some people, find what you like, go from there.


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