[Zdmlscid]

When searching through the AKC breeds on their website, there is no American Pit Bull Terrier...only American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier....can you not show APBT's in AKC shows?? I was under the impression that APBT's could be registered AKC or UKC???

[favwebbb]

Nope. AKC does not recognize the APBT. Amstaffs can be dual registered with AKC and UKC, though.

[Xxedxevh]

Nope. AKC does not recognize the APBT. Amstaffs can be dual registered with AKC and UKC, though.

Correct. Sako is dual registered through AKC & UKC, and could even be ADBA registered if I wanted to.

[Zdmlscid]

Sooo...if I was planning on buying a puppy to start getting into showing (starting in "fun" shows of course) I should be more concerned with one that is UKC registered as opposed to AKC?? I know this sounds like a totally ignorant question but how in the heck do i tell the difference between the Ambully, American Staffordshire Terrier, the staffordshire bull terrier & APBT?!? They all look the same...and this particular breeder that I was looking at just calls them "pit bulls" so i assume that they are APBT?!?

[Xxedxevh]

Sooo...if I was planning on buying a puppy to start getting into showing (starting in "fun" shows of course) I should be more concerned with one that is UKC registered as opposed to AKC?? I know this sounds like a totally ignorant question but how in the heck do i tell the difference between the Ambully, American Staffordshire Terrier, the staffordshire bull terrier & APBT?!? They all look the same...and this particular breeder that I was looking at just calls them "pit bulls" so i assume that they are APBT?!?

That would depend on what registry you want to show with. If you want to do AKC, then you need to look for an AmStaff. Many AmStaff's are still dual registered with UKC, so you could show both registries if you wanted (I do). If you get a UKC registered dog, and only that, you'd only be able to show UKC. Most APBT's that show conformation in UKC are very AmStaff looking.. they aren't the ADBA type dog.

The AmBully & SBT are completely different and you should easily be able to tell what is what once you do more research

This is a good read on the different "types": Visual comparison of top winning UKC, AKC and ADBA dogs

If the breeder is just calling them "Pit Bulls", I'd probably steer clear.

[extessarere]

do the puppies have registered papers? Or check the papers, if they parents dont have papers, the dogs may not be registrable at all.

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If you are looking for quality stock your best bet would be to go to any of the UKC AKC ADBA shows (you may have to travel) and talk to people there

[Zdmlscid]

I'm not sure if i would rather show AKC or UKC bc i'm not 100%sure of the difference...I have googled and googled until i'm just o_O so i figured posting on here, maybe someone could give me a straightforward answer instead of the text book stuff that's all over the internet. lol The puppies do have registered papers...UKC but i've seen several that were both AKC & UKC, so from what ya'll are sayin, that was an Amstaff?? let me use pics for example..i'm a visual kind of person. lol (neither one of these are the breeder i'm considering, just for the record)

On this site, they refer to their dogs as APBT's....but they look TOTALLY different to me....the one on the left looks like an AmBully & the one on the right (gorgeous!) looks like the pics i've seen of AmStaffs...but the breeders say they are APBT's


& to me, these look like ambullys, they call them "pocket bullys".


& judging by this, i can deff see the difference, except the first two look the same except for size...i think this is where i'm gettin confused...with real dogs, they all look the same to me, (except for the english bull terrier) just different sizes...i can't figure out the distinct differences between them?! maybe i'm over thinking it, idk, but nevertheless, i'm confused as CRAP!!


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and on this website they look completely different but in real life, i can't tell the differnce at all??
http://www.pitbull-info-and-training...-pitbulls.html

is there a particular thread/website that any of ya'll know of to explain the difference, other than just by their weight ranges bc that's all i'm seeing. I would very much appreciate it! I'm trying to learn as much as possible but I just can't get this straight!

[Frierlovene]

From what I see of the dogs you've posted - They are all AmBully's

[Zdmlscid]

What characteristics makes them look like AmBully's to you Prada? They all look different to me. lol ugh i'm so lost!

[Petrushkaukrop]

Don't rely just on the Internet. If you plan on "doing" shows ... get to some registry sanctioned events and see what the dogs look like. Ask lots of questions. Most dog owners are very approachable

[Frierlovene]

The fact that they are overdone in size and mostly all blue + dubbed simply as "Pit Bulls" is what gives them away as AmBullies to me.

[Petrushkaukrop]

Oh and by the way, there is going to be an ADBA registry sanctioned event Thanksgiving weekend in Chipley Florida. You're in Northeast Florida and that would just be a day trip for you. You will see LOTS of Amazing American Pit Bull Terriers. Hope to see ya there.

The Mid Florida and Sunshine State ADBA Clubs Host a Show on November26-27, 2011!!

[Zdmlscid]

JoeBingo---that's what started this whole mess of confusion for me...that's exactly what i was trying to do...i was looking for shows somewhat close to my area to go watch but i wasn't sure which club i should be looking for since i can't tell the difference in the appearance of the apbt & the ast....i wasn't sure if i should go to akc or ukc shows. I guess both wouldn't hurt but it would probably make more sense to go to ukc shows since ast's can be dually registered. right?


Prada--The second picture, i would deff call it an ambully, but in the first picture, the one on the right looks like an amstaff...she has the sort of pit/boxer mix look to her IMO. & IME, (which clearly is all messed up! lol) that's the sort of look that amstaff's have.

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JoeBingo--thanks so much for the heads up! I will deff put that on my calendar!!

[xpllmr]

Oh and by the way, there is going to be an ADBA registry sanctioned event Thanksgiving weekend in Chipley Florida. You're in Northeast Florida and that would just be a day trip for you. You will see LOTS of Amazing American Pit Bull Terriers. Hope to see ya there.

The Mid Florida and Sunshine State ADBA Clubs Host a Show on November26-27, 2011!!

Are you comming out to this one too? I saw you there in Feb. Well Boogie pointed you out to me. LOL

[xpllmr]

That would depend on what registry you want to show with. If you want to do AKC, then you need to look for an AmStaff. Many AmStaff's are still dual registered with UKC, so you could show both registries if you wanted (I do). If you get a UKC registered dog, and only that, you'd only be able to show UKC. Most APBT's that show conformation in UKC are very AmStaff looking.. they aren't the ADBA type dog.

The AmBully & SBT are completely different and you should easily be able to tell what is what once you do more research

This is a good read on the different "types": Visual comparison of top winning UKC, AKC and ADBA dogs

If the breeder is just calling them "Pit Bulls", I'd probably steer clear.

Or if he is calling them "blue nose" steer clear!!!!!

I remember him he was a College Football player when all the Vick stuff happened. I saw him on the news talking about it.

One of his dogs is ACE is solid 125lbs!!! Seriously?

Kharris you need to determine what breed you want. DO you want an Am Staff, A UKC American Pit Bull Terrier which in all sense and purposes is not the same as an ADBA American Pit Bull Terrier. Or do you want an American Bully.

[Petrushkaukrop]

Are you comming out to this one too? I saw you there in Feb. Well Boogie pointed you out to me. LOL

Yep, I'll be there

[MattJargin]

off topic.. but whrere is that site that says PITBULL-CHAT with the get educated on it? one of those shirts wld be kewl!

[Xxedxevh]

Don't rely just on the Internet. If you plan on "doing" shows ... get to some registry sanctioned events and see what the dogs look like. Ask lots of questions. Most dog owners are very approachable

This.

Or if he is calling them "blue nose" steer clear!!!!!

I remember him he was a College Football player when all the Vick stuff happened. I saw him on the news talking about it.

One of his dogs is ACE is solid 125lbs!!! Seriously?

Kharris you need to determine what breed you want. DO you want an Am Staff, A UKC American Pit Bull Terrier which in all sense and purposes is not the same as an ADBA American Pit Bull Terrier. Or do you want an American Bully.

And this.


I had always wanted an AKC registered AmStaff. So, I found a breeder than bred them, and they happened to be dual registered with UKC as well.

That website you posted breeds Bullies, pretty obvious.

[Zdmlscid]

Kamikaze--the shirts are at Scratchin' Dog Designs.com I think they're awesome too!!

Kady05---btw, thanks for that link, not too sure it helped me but it was deff a good read! & ya'll say that all 3 of the dogs are AmBullies, but they all look different to me...the first looks like an AST, the second like an APBT & the 3rd, i would deff call an AmBully due to how short he is.

Cynthia-- I'm trying to figure out which breed I want bc I want to show a little bit (primarily just for fun in our local fair) but I do know that I want to go ahead and get an AKC or UKC registered one incase I decide to go further with the showing. But I can't seem to figure out the difference between AST's and APBT's...I can look at a picture and think that it's the kind i want & then I think I'm getting good at looking and pictures & naming them correctly but then ya'll say they are AmBully's so I'm back to square one. lol

I do very much appreciate everyone's patience & help btw!! I know ya'll are probably rolling your eyes and shaking your heads at me! lol

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I just saw this quote on another thread....The only time I say "That's an AmBully" is if they say something like Razor's Edge, Gottiline, Greyline, etc

Read more: http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthre...#ixzz1YVUu78oE

So AmBully's are not registerable?!?
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[favwebbb]

The dogs you posted are American Bullies. There are different classes such as XL, Classic, Extreme, Standard, Pocket, which I do not agree should all exist, but that's a whole other discussion. That is why the two top dogs look different than the pocket below. They are different styles of AmBullies. I own two "Classic" style American Bullies, and many do tend to look similar to AST's. Which is why you said the blue fawn bitch you posted looks like an AST.

My two, just for reference:





Not the greatest pictures, they are the first ones I came to. But, still.. Do you see what I mean?

American Bullies have their own kennel club, called the ABKC. There, they can be registered.