[FoetAgerhot46]

Ive been wondering as i ALWAYS hear EVERYONE saying "basically' if its BLUE its an AMBULLY. Is there no such thing as a 'Blue' AmStaff?

Also I was wondering if anyone ahd any known pedigrees that had the so called Blue APBT.


Trying to really figure out where the hell the blue came from. on top of why almost all blue are bullies and not AmStaffs.

Dont have a lot of knowledge in the 'BLUE' department..so please no smart ass remarks thanks!

OO yeah.. totally forgot until i seen something to remind me today.. I heard someone once say that the 'blue' is just a diluted black... Which in SOME cases i could kinda see... BUT NOT THE BLUE IM SEEING IN TODAYS DOGS!??!!

[gugqgbyzlp]

They can all be blue, and I have seen a blue in each breed.

It's just a diluted black.

They might pop up more often in the Ambully or Amstaff, because people are breeding for that color, but it does and can happen in the APBT.

Pedigree of a Blue APBT: http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mod...&dog_id=178895

[tLO0hFNy]

heres another common one

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id= 231848

theres tons of blue veriations on amstaffs. i just havent seen many in shelters.. bullys seem to have taken the shelters over.

[Wsjltrhe]

Yes, blue is a dilution of black. It also continues to dilute the more you breed it to itself - breeding two blue dogs produces lighter blue dogs, that usually are prone to skin issues. Blue dogs out of parents/grandparents that are NOT blue are usually darker and have better pigment because they aren't diluted down even more.

[Indessasp]

Yea, now that makes sense now. I've seen blue dogs bred with different color dogs (fawn, red, other blues) and black pups are produced. I never understood that until now. Once again thanks PBC for informing of something new. lol

[corsar-caribean]

When somebody shows me a blue dog and says it's an APBT I tell them it's not, unless they've got a legitimate pedigree. The likelihood of finding a blue APBT in a shelter is pretty slim. But I don't usually say "That's an AmBully" because it could be a mixed breed or an AmStaff. Bullies actually aren't that popular here, mostly we have "pit mix" and AmStaff-like dogs.

The only time I say "That's an AmBully" is if they say something like Razor's Edge, Gottiline, Greyline, etc.

[Wsjltrhe]

Yea, now that makes sense now. I've seen blue dogs bred with different color dogs (fawn, red, other blues) and black pups are produced. I never understood that until now. Once again thanks PBC for informing of something new. lol

Breeding two dogs doesn't mean you'll get all dogs of that colour - it's about their genetics, and the genetics of the dogs in the pedigree before them. Which is why responsible breeders research pedigrees before breeding... because pups can turn up like anything in the past generations.

[Indessasp]

Yea i know that too. Since the blue is just a diluted black that would mean the darker color is in it's genetics. makes sense

[FoetAgerhot46]

How far back can the 'FIRST' blue APBT or AmStaff in be found?
Right now i am in the mits of TRYING to figure out/learn how to read (be able to tell if its more AmStaff , APBT or something else thrown in) peds. I really wish* they would require registered dogs to have pictures.lol.

What lines where used when Razors Edge came abouts? (just using Razors Edge, cuz its seems like what everyone says... and ive never did much research on the others..or razors edge for that matter..)

Just makes me wonder so much on HOW/why the blues are so xtra crazy difference in apperence.



Ive read ppl sayin that Razors Edge,Greyline, Gottiline etc. are all NEW ish.. what lines were used to Razors Edge

[bpejjssoe]

not all re / greyline dogs are ambully. anyone says otherwise they have been misinformed. for ie alot of greyline dogs are akc amstaffs.(my puppy sire is og greyline , but has akc reg all over his ped-blue dogs)

many ast are blue.

[DiBellaBam]

When somebody shows me a blue dog and says it's an APBT I tell them it's not, unless they've got a legitimate pedigree. The likelihood of finding a blue APBT in a shelter is pretty slim. But I don't usually say "That's an AmBully" because it could be a mixed breed or an AmStaff. Bullies actually aren't that popular here, mostly we have "pit mix" and AmStaff-like dogs.

The only time I say "That's an AmBully" is if they say something like Razor's Edge, Gottiline, Greyline, etc.

Pretty much my first thoughts as well, it's hard when just because someone's blue dog is not overdone they do believe it to be an apbt. At the rate of blue dogs popping up from every new backyard breeder for the "blue nose pitbulls", my awareness of most blue dogs are just not going to be apbts these days. As the two examples posted about however, I wouldn't deny it to be possible obviously.

[FoetAgerhot46]

not all re / greyline dogs are ambully. anyone says otherwise they have been misinformed. for ie alot of greyline dogs are akc amstaffs.(my puppy sire is og greyline , but has akc reg all over his ped-blue dogs)

many ast are blue.

Do you have a pedigree? Id love to be able to look thru the generations to see what you're sayin!