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Controller 09-13-2011 07:33 PM

dumping dogs
 
This is not Pitbull related well I guess maybe it could be depending on the dogs. Have you heard what people are doing in florida to the dogs they no longer want. They take them and dump them go in the everglades. Can you imagine the trauma those dogs are going through? Wow I cant comprehend how someone can make this decision to endanger their own pet. The dogs are probably trying to find their way home. So very sad.

http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-nati...the-everglades

Laqswrnm 09-13-2011 07:39 PM

People dump EVERYTHING in the Everglades.

If I dumped Jolene in the Everglades, she'd be so busy hunting she wouldn't even notice I was gone! lol

Andromino 09-13-2011 07:50 PM

seriously. theres news stories constantly about shit dumped there..

Controller 09-13-2011 07:52 PM

Im sure they do. But a domesticated dog. Some may survive others will not. I just dont understand how you take in a dog love him and care for him than decide one day to go dump him in the Everglades. He loved a family and Im sure is waiting for the family to come get him or he went looking for them.

grubnismarl 09-13-2011 07:57 PM

I will never understand how anyone could do that. Our Sadie was found by a friend of ours running alongside the road in a rural area, filthy dirty and very skinny and just scared to death, and she's just an absolutely sweet pup, I couldn't and wouldn't do that no matter what.

choollaBard 09-13-2011 07:58 PM

I know some people have no idea how bad it is to dump ANYTHING in a wild area, some people think "oh there is stuff to eat, and water, they will survive" which is possible for some of them, but then that is bad in itself because the pets now eat and kill native species, same thing happens with the pet birds, snakes, lizards, small/med mammals.
I know in Arizona, in a town called Sun City there are flocks, yeah you read right FLOCKS of parakeets and love birds.

Controller 09-13-2011 08:01 PM

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I know some people have no idea how bad it is to dump ANYTHING in a wild area, some people think "oh there is stuff to eat, and water, they will survive" which is possible for some of them, but then that is bad in itself because the pets now eat and kill native species, same thing happens with the pet birds, snakes, lizards, small/med mammals.
I know in Arizona, in a town called Sun City there are flocks, yeah you read right FLOCKS of parakeets and love birds.
wow, its just unbelievable to me. breaks my heart.

Laqswrnm 09-13-2011 08:06 PM

Domesticated dogs are still dogs. They can still care for themselves. Have you seen the street dogs in some countries? Totally self dependent and reverting to wild dog behaviour to survive.

Yes, it's sad that people are dumping their dogs... and yes, some are dying and getting eaten by snakes (considering people are dumping pythons out there that can reach 20 ft.)... but people are stupid, and that's what they do. I would see dumping a dog as a better solution than going to certain animal shelters... it's a matter of evils. (not that I would EVER EVER dump a dog OR release one to a shelter)

choollaBard 09-13-2011 08:36 PM

I dont think feral dogs ever revert back to wild dog status, they dont hunt really and they usually scavenge more than anything.
Dont we have some wild dogs in America? Like their own breeds and stuff? I thought I heard something like that one time...

EDIT: Yep found them the Carolina Wild Dog aka The American Dingo lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog

creewespock 09-13-2011 08:55 PM

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Domesticated dogs are still dogs. They can still care for themselves. Have you seen the street dogs in some countries? Totally self dependent and reverting to wild dog behaviour to survive.

Yes, it's sad that people are dumping their dogs... and yes, some are dying and getting eaten by snakes (considering people are dumping pythons out there that can reach 20 ft.)... but people are stupid, and that's what they do. I would see dumping a dog as a better solution than going to certain animal shelters... it's a matter of evils. (not that I would EVER EVER dump a dog OR release one to a shelter)

In Mexico there are packs of Chihuahua's living wild, hunting mice and rabbits and who are totally reverting to feral status. We have a problem with Pit Bulls and mixed breeds in Detroit who are living on the streets, some estimates say up to 10,000, and doing their best to survive. We also have a large dumped dog population on Belle Isle that has gotten so much press people bring bags of food and leave them slit open on the ground for the dogs to eat and other people are using it as a free adoption event. They drive out from the burbs, select one they like, lure it into their car and take it home.

As sad as dogs getting dumped is, it happens, has happened for a long time and will continue to happen. Some dogs will survive, some will find homes, some will die. Such is life.

Andromino 09-13-2011 09:14 PM

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I dont think feral dogs ever revert back to wild dog status, they dont hunt really and they usually scavenge more than anything.
Dont we have some wild dogs in America? Like their own breeds and stuff? I thought I heard something like that one time...

EDIT: Yep found them the Carolina Wild Dog aka The American Dingo lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog
yup., almost hit a pack of em in ga. btw.. american dingos were stray dogs at one time too yaknow.

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As sad as dogs getting dumped is, it happens, has happened for a long time and will continue to happen. Some dogs will survive, some will find homes, some will die. Such is life.
aint that how life works anyways? how do you guys feel about wild animals dying from disease and getting ate? hell. lol

choollaBard 09-13-2011 09:16 PM

Yea but they have been stray for so so long that they have finally reverted back to wild. Most dumped dogs never revert, and most feral packs elsewhere dont revert back and dont hunt, it takes a long time of living out of human contact to have a dog revert into a wild dog. I also believe the American Dingos started interbreeding with wild canids and produced a hybrid more adaptable and more likely to be able and have the instinct to hunt wild prey.

Andromino 09-13-2011 09:34 PM

its gottuh start somewhere.

choollaBard 09-13-2011 09:46 PM

Thats true, as with anything.

avodeinst 09-13-2011 10:15 PM

I live out on a county road in the country and we get dogs dumped out here all the time. It's common out here to see a dog dumped in the ditch with a bowl of food and a bowl of water. I guess they just assume that somebody will pick them up.

Laqswrnm 09-13-2011 11:36 PM

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Yea but they have been stray for so so long that they have finally reverted back to wild. Most dumped dogs never revert, and most feral packs elsewhere dont revert back and dont hunt, it takes a long time of living out of human contact to have a dog revert into a wild dog. I also believe the American Dingos started interbreeding with wild canids and produced a hybrid more adaptable and more likely to be able and have the instinct to hunt wild prey.


I just can't imagine dogs not hunting. lol My own pack gets fed good kibble daily, and they STILL hunt. If I left them to their own devices, they'd survive just fine lol

Carolina dogs were discovered as a wild pack by people, who then started keeping and breeding them... not the other way around (a kept and bred dog that was released.)


Andromino 09-13-2011 11:41 PM

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I just can't imagine dogs not hunting. lol My own pack gets fed good kibble daily, and they STILL hunt. If I left them to their own devices, they'd survive just fine lol

Carolina dogs were discovered as a wild pack by people, who then started keeping and breeding them... not the other way around (a kept and bred dog that was released.)


not according to the breeders of them.. they were SUPPOSEDLY brought over from overseas (they said there might be a very distant link to aussie ones) and they took off and turned into a pack of wild dogs. then people came BACK and started breeding them if i remember correctly..

i guess i could of added this was supposedly a gagillion years ago.

Laqswrnm 09-14-2011 12:06 AM

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not according to the breeders of them.. they were SUPPOSEDLY brought over from overseas (they said there might be a very distant link to aussie ones) and they took off and turned into a pack of wild dogs. then people came BACK and started breeding them if i remember correctly..

i guess i could of added this was supposedly a gagillion years ago.


They are supposedly descendants of dogs who colonized the Americas, yes. They aren't a native wild dog in America from the start... but longer back than most breeds have been around! Skulls of modern Carolina dogs have been compared to skulls of dogs found in Native American burial sites in the south and east, with a lot of similarities. It's believed that NA's got a hold of imported dogs and when they started naturally breeding, reverted to the fawn shepherd-y/terrier type look that dogs revert to when left to breed on their own.

So yes, once upon a time they were domestic... but then they were their own pack of wild dogs until the 1970's or so when people really took an interest in them.

Andromino 09-14-2011 12:29 AM

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They are supposedly descendants of dogs who colonized the Americas, yes. They aren't a native wild dog in America from the start... but longer back than most breeds have been around! Skulls of modern Carolina dogs have been compared to skulls of dogs found in Native American burial sites in the south and east, with a lot of similarities. It's believed that NA's got a hold of imported dogs and when they started naturally breeding, reverted to the fawn shepherd-y/terrier type look that dogs revert to when left to breed on their own.

So yes, once upon a time they were domestic... but then they were their own pack of wild dogs until the 1970's or so when people really took an interest in them.

so like i said. its gottuh start somewhere lol

TriamiCaw 09-14-2011 01:46 AM

Lily was dumped before AC picked her up and then I adopted her pretty much the second she was available.

She has an eating disorder from her days on the street. Who knows how long she was out there. It took her a whole week to figure out I wasn't going to dump her. I had to carry her up and down stairs (she went to work with me), into the car, etc. etc. Boy she got a big retarded husky grin when she figured out I wasn't gonna leave her.

She didn't know how to hunt. She starved and she will have compulsive food issues her whole life. She can't help it, its the douche who dumped her's fault. It took her a while of running in the pasture at my parents to learn to hunt. I had to kill her first couple catches for her (a bird, then a squirrel, and then a couple mice). Now she is a very good hunter and excellent at flushing game birds (if only I were a hunter eh?), but she was not born knowing how to hunt and she did starve when her asshole first owner dumped her on the street! No bueno! http://www.pitbull-chat.com/images/smilies/no2.gif


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