[chuviskkk]

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i don't want to offend anyone, just something to think about.

[abubycera]

What?

[eduptultyt]

It appears most of your post has been deleted.

[chuviskkk]

i understand, it might have been controversial. i was just thinking from the dog's perspective.

[abubycera]

I would repost, I doubt it was deleted intentionally, perhaps a forum glitch.

[eduptultyt]

i understand, it might have been controversial. i was just thinking from the dog's perspective.

Probably a forum glitch, or it accidentally was deleted when you added the other part. Just post what you were saying again

[SerycegeBunny]

Seriously? How many debates have we had on this subject. Tethering can be done responsible. A chain is an inanimate object it can not abuse a dog. It is a method of containment. It is the owner behind it. Just as a dog can be neglected as a house dog or in a kennel. I have seen Manu dogs neglected as a house dog. Sure it is getting fed and watered. Buy no interaction.

It is about responsible ownership. Not how you contain your animal. And one should not ASSUME that every dog that is tethered is being neglected. Funny is a dog was on a cable runner no problem. But if the same dog is on a chain people have issues. My dog can snap a cable.

Oh and a crating for hours upon hours is SO much better.

http://www.ncraoa.com/PDF/Tethering/...ingPenning.pdf

Comparison of Tethering and Pen Confinment a Cornell University Study
http://www.ncraoa.com/PDF/Tethering/..._tethering.pdf

[Yarmark]

It appears most of your post has been deleted.

I thought I was just reading it wrong lol

[VowJoyday]

Just fill in the blanks.

[DJElizardo]

OP...I think what happened to your post was this:

You posted it, then replied to it, and when you looked, your original post was there, but right below it the original post repeated with the addition of your new post. You thought it was a double post so your went into edit and deleted the doubled part, right?

The forums been doing that lately. For anyone out there in PBC land...DON'T delete the doubled up post! Just refresh, the double will dissapear. If you DO delete it, both will dissapear.

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[Yarmark]

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[chuviskkk]

i believe tethering is cruelty to animals. it must be unbearable for the dog to watch free animals (cats, birds, squirrels, etc) roam all day. dogs that live in the house are a loved cherished, member of the family. they have a pack. the tethered dog on the other hand may get exercised, but doesn't get the social interaction needed to be a dog. the chain breaks/robs the dog's personality. dogs that live outside may get petted once or twice a day as their owner feeds/waters them and scoops the poop, but they'll still get excited every time you walk by, just hoping for some show of affection. that's a life a torment and solitary confinement. the dog on the chain actually hates the free world and that's why they attack so viciously when given the chance for a tidbit of freedom. i bet the dog wonders what did it do to deserve this torture.

[HartOvara]

That is your belief/opinion, I don't agree with it. While I don't think chaining a dog and leaving it 24hours a day 7 days a week without any interaction is alright, Tethering or chaining a dog is not wrong it is the responsible thing to do for proper containment if you don't have a proper yard or have multiple dogs.

[chuviskkk]

i think chains are better than kennels but neither compares to living in the house.

[Manteiv]

Bransen lives in the house but is tethered sometimes too.
It's a safe and secure way to contain your dog.

The problem isn't tethering, the problem is shitty and neglectful owners.

It's not the tool it is how you use it.
I know plenty of people who think tethering is "cruel" but leave their dogs outside in the yard, in a crate or kennel, or just let them rot on the couch all day. A shitty owner is a shitty owner, plain and simple. If tethering is out of the question the owners who you are refer to are owners would leave their dogs outside in the yard or something, think about it.

A lot of "outside dogs" have poor lives, sure. But so do the majority of household family pets these days. A dog that is taken care of properly (given good food, properly contained, provided with both mental and physical stimulation) is a happy dog and usually has a good life and relationship with it's owner, regardless of if the dog is kept inside or out.

[chuviskkk]

That is your belief/opinion, I don't agree with it. While I don't think chaining a dog and leaving it 24hours a day 7 days a week without any interaction is alright, Tethering or chaining a dog is not wrong it is the responsible thing to do for proper containment if you don't have a proper yard or have multiple dogs.

that's you thinking about it, take a step back and try to think from the dog's perspective.

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Bransen lives in the house but is tethered sometimes too.
It's a safe and secure way to contain your dog.

The problem isn't tethering, the problem is shitty and neglectful owners.

It's not the tool it is how you use it.
I know plenty of people who think tethering is "cruel" but leave their dogs outside in the yard, in a crate or kennel, or just let them rot on the couch all day. A shitty owner is a shitty owner, plain and simple. If tethering is out of the question the owners who you are refer to are owners would leave their dogs outside in the yard or something, think about it.

i just feel the proper way to own a dog is in the house, unless you have an outside working dog (husky, malmute, ovcharka, bmd). no matter what it requires exercise. i see what you were saying about shitty owners.

[capeAngedlelp]

What a load of crap.Think from the dogs perspective that he sees birds that are free and wants to be.Dogs that get excited every time they see you-it must be because they get no attention not because they are friendly dogs.
I feel sorry for your dogs sitting in the house looking out the window at the dogs on chains.

[Manteiv]

It's fine to feel that way, I guess we can agree to disagree.
Plenty of people can't have their dogs inside for good reason.

Really there is no reason to keep your dog in the house unless you live in a bad area or don't have a good outside set up. Sure, many dogs enjoy being in the house, but they usually enjoy being outside just as much as long as they get the same stimulation, love and care that they would in the house.

A dog out on a chain gets to run and play or lay around and relax, as well as the stimulation of the sights, sounds and smells of the outdoors.
Better than laying on the couch or floor while the owner goes about their day, if you ask me.

[chuviskkk]

It's fine to feel that way, I guess we can agree to disagree.
Plenty of people can't have their dogs inside for good reason.

Really there is no reason to keep your dog in the house unless you live in a bad area or don't have a good outside set up. Sure, many dogs enjoy being in the house, but they usually enjoy being outside just as much as long as they get the same stimulation, love and care that they would in the house.

A dog out on a chain gets to run and play or lay around and relax, as well as the stimulation of the sights, sounds and smells of the outdoors.
Better than laying on the couch or floor while the owner goes about their day, if you ask me.

that is a good way to look at it....

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What a load of crap.Think from the dogs perspective that he sees birds that are free and wants to be.Dogs that get excited every time they see you-it must be because they get no attention not because they are friendly dogs.
I feel sorry for your dogs sitting in the house looking out the window at the dogs on chains.

my whole pack gets more work than whatever your feeding.