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Old 12-23-2010, 03:29 PM   #1
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Lol gotcha! Nah but seriously I have a question.

My friend took in her cousins dog when he went for his military training or work or idk something to do with that. Tghey have a male dog. The cousin never told them the dog was in heat they never knew the dogs mated until she noticed the dog was pregnant. She called me like I think miracle is pregnant! Then 3 days later I get a ca ll saying she's going into labor. My reaction is "wow". The dog is only 1 year and a few months old. She had 7 puppies and 3 died. 2 during birth and the 3rd the dy after. The owner has since come home for a week. The dog is still at my friends house. Yesterday my friends son was in the room moving a chair by where the have the mommy dog enclosed with her puppies. The dog jumped up and bit him in the face! He's got small bit marks al over her mouth. She then jumped over the enclosure and attempted to attack him again! But their male dog jumped on her, didn't attack but basically told her to cut it. Now the only one who she allows around her and the pups is my friends boyfriend.
The told the owner he basically yelled at the dog and that was it. He comes in and visits his dog and sits with her for a while then is up and out again. They're not sure what to do in this situation. I told them after she weans the pups to get rid of her and said they should tell the owner to put her down. But what do you guys think should happen? She growls and snarls and snaps at anyone who cames in the room now idk what shed do if they dear get near her area.... its just a sad case all around
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:37 PM   #2
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Honestly, a female protecting her pups is commonly aggressive. Liberty's dam was such a case. Until the pups were weaned, any time we went in there, her dam had to be put outside. Once the pups were weaned, she was as sweet as ever.
I wouldn't call the dog in this case HA unless she has a history of it.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:38 PM   #3
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did this dog bite/act agressive before becoming pregnant/having pups??? My suspisions,if not is she is defending her litter.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:43 PM   #4
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IF the dog wanted to take his face off, she could have. That was the dog asking, the only way she knew how...for peple to stay away from her pups.

I'm personally not thrilled hearing about this coming from an APBT...as if she were an ideal example, there would be no aggression towards people under ANY circumstances.

But it's folly to believe that all pit bulls and dogs that resemble pit bulls are going to possess the ideal temperment for the breed.

That being said, protecting her pups is a fairly normal "dog" behavior, even if not the norm for "pit bull" behavior.

I won't even bother discussing the 800 other things wrong with this situation, none of which is your fault. :P
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:40 PM   #5
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Well I don't follow the idea an apbt should no signs of aggression no matter the circumstance. Yes if the dog was aggressive all the time with no reason, then there's a problem. If you think about it, females from almost all species of animals including g humans will fight And protect their young, so I don't think you can fault this dog for doing what nature says
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:43 PM   #6
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Ohh okay thanks I was wondering that also but then again wondering because of her breed. And I know there's sooo much wrong with this case but all I can do is stay in a friends place and help when they need it
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:17 PM   #7
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I would probably try and find another set up for mom and pups. An adult only home where she wont be so stressed.
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:01 PM   #8
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Sounds like she was protecting her pups. If she still acts that way when the pups are weaned, have them take her to the vet to see if she has a hormone imbalance.

Honestly, she should probably be in a less stressful environment. Maybe there are some rescues in the area who would be willing to foster the dog (I know some rescues will foster for folks in the military) and find homes for the pups.

Until then, they should keep momma and her pups in a separate room away from the kid.
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:12 PM   #9
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Maybe I'm too strict, but the dog didn't go after a stranger who was messing with her pups.. She went after the son of her owner who wasn't doing anything but being near her, and she jumped over something to come for him again after nipping him in the face. In other words she's proven she will go after a kid in her home. I do suggest a vet trip to make sure there is not something wrong before making any drastic decisions.. But for now they need to keep that bitch away form their kid.

They need to be very careful where they place those pups in case there is something wrong with the mom.

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And this most likely is just from her pregnancy and the hormones it put her through, the stress of having the pups and caring for them.

I hope your friends have learned their lesson about breeding dogs who don't need to be bred in the first place..
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:51 PM   #10
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i didnt even read the op yet lmao i was laughing too hard at the title!!!

"oh no!!! not no more splitting body parts" lmao

i'll now read the op

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i think she's protecting the pups.

when tweek had her accidental litter she was EXTREMELY protective over them. the only person that could touch the pups were me. she went after my brother even who has been in her life since she was brought home. i could pick up the pups and handle them all i wanted to but if my brother approached them she would snap.

now grant it, tweek is ha and da from the the get go (hence why i shouldnt have let that litter happen in the 1st place but i was 19 and didnt take proper precautions) so having the pup made it show more...

i would take into consideration what the dog was like before the pregnancy and then re-evaluate her once the pups are weened and then decide what to do.

she may need to be fixed to prevent this from happening again and the pups should be given to people who are experienced and will have them fixed too. ha is not a trait that should be passed on
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:54 PM   #11
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misunderstood -- post doesn't apply!

How old are the puppies? The younger the pups, the less tolerant some bitches will be of things going on in the immediate area of the pups. Still probably not an ideal response from the dog, but they really need to be left alone as much as possible, especially when the pups are very young.

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Old 12-23-2010, 09:26 PM   #12
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Mothers are protective... nothing to freak out about. The parents shouldn't allow their children in the same room.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:16 PM   #13
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if nothing else...tell these folks to put the dog in a room by herself. If the other dog was able to intervene...that means the other dog was in the same space as the mom and pups...no good.

All those people, and the other dogs is too much. And the dog didn't go after her owner's son, she went after the son of the person whose house she is staying.

Why isn't she with her owner?

The boy was attacked when he was moving furniture around the dam and pups...again, that shouldn't be going on near pups. She needs a quiet, safe place where people and other animals leave her alone.

She is not in HER home. She is apperently in a high traffic area where other dogs, children, and furniture moving takes place. No good. Set her up somerwhere quiet, and tell them to leave her alone.

She doesnt need people showing off her pups to friends and neighbors, and she desn't need boisterous kids or other dogs being anywhere near them.
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:14 AM   #14
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if nothing else...tell these folks to put the dog in a room by herself. If the other dog was able to intervene...that means the other dog was in the same space as the mom and pups...no good.

All those people, and the other dogs is too much. And the dog didn't go after her owner's son, she went after the son of the person whose house she is staying.

Why isn't she with her owner?

The boy was attacked when he was moving furniture around the dam and pups...again, that shouldn't be going on near pups. She needs a quiet, safe place where people and other animals leave her alone.

She is not in HER home. She is apperently in a high traffic area where other dogs, children, and furniture moving takes place. No good. Set her up somerwhere quiet, and tell them to leave her alone.

She doesnt need people showing off her pups to friends and neighbors, and she desn't need boisterous kids or other dogs being anywhere near them.
This about sums it up.
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:57 AM   #15
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I agree, Poisoned, i would be seriously watching her behavior after this, honestly, I would be very wary. that said, i don't think it means the same thing as it would if she had bitten a kid under normal circumstances, and I agree it sound like she is overly stressed about all the activity happening around her babies. For me, this would be strike 1, and I would look very carefully for a less explainable strike 2 coming. No strike 3.

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Oh, and I was so relieved thet the title was a joke!
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:59 AM   #16
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if nothing else...tell these folks to put the dog in a room by herself. If the other dog was able to intervene...that means the other dog was in the same space as the mom and pups...no good.

All those people, and the other dogs is too much. And the dog didn't go after her owner's son, she went after the son of the person whose house she is staying.

Why isn't she with her owner?

The boy was attacked when he was moving furniture around the dam and pups...again, that shouldn't be going on near pups. She needs a quiet, safe place where people and other animals leave her alone.

She is not in HER home. She is apperently in a high traffic area where other dogs, children, and furniture moving takes place. No good. Set her up somerwhere quiet, and tell them to leave her alone.

She doesnt need people showing off her pups to friends and neighbors, and she desn't need boisterous kids or other dogs being anywhere near them.
The owner went away for military triaining or work... one of the two... I know he's in the army

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misunderstood -- post doesn't apply!

How old are the puppies? The younger the pups, the less tolerant some bitches will be of things going on in the immediate area of the pups. Still probably not an ideal response from the dog, but they really need to be left alone as much as possible, especially when the pups are very young.

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The pups are currently 5 days old I do believe

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i didnt even read the op yet lmao i was laughing too hard at the title!!!

"oh no!!! not no more splitting body parts" lmao

i'll now read the op

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i think she's protecting the pups.

when tweek had her accidental litter she was EXTREMELY protective over them. the only person that could touch the pups were me. she went after my brother even who has been in her life since she was brought home. i could pick up the pups and handle them all i wanted to but if my brother approached them she would snap.

now grant it, tweek is ha and da from the the get go (hence why i shouldnt have let that litter happen in the 1st place but i was 19 and didnt take proper precautions) so having the pup made it show more...

i would take into consideration what the dog was like before the pregnancy and then re-evaluate her once the pups are weened and then decide what to do.

she may need to be fixed to prevent this from happening again and the pups should be given to people who are experienced and will have them fixed too. ha is not a trait that should be passed on
I suggested that also but its the owners decision and when mentioned to him he didn't really say much. I know 2 of the pups are spoken for already the biggest girl is going to the owners mom. And another girl is going to a close friend of mine who has already agreed to spay. (Yes I hounded him about that as soon ask he asked lol) the other 2 I'm not sure where they'll end up.

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Maybe I'm too strict, but the dog didn't go after a stranger who was messing with her pups.. She went after the son of her owner who wasn't doing anything but being near her, and she jumped over something to come for him again after nipping him in the face. In other words she's proven she will go after a kid in her home. I do suggest a vet trip to make sure there is not something wrong before making any drastic decisions.. But for now they need to keep that bitch away form their kid.

They need to be very careful where they place those pups in case there is something wrong with the mom.

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And this most likely is just from her pregnancy and the hormones it put her through, the stress of having the pups and caring for them.

I hope your friends have learned their lesson about breeding dogs who don't need to be bred in the first place..
That's what really worried me too, the jumping over the enclosure to get to the boy who's only 8. But no I've never seen her act aggressively toward any human before her pregnancy.
And for the note, they didn't breed her she isn't their dog they were baby sitting her while the owner was in another state. He just never mentioned the dog being in heat.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:29 PM   #17
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Just heard the news, he's allowing the pups to go at 5 weeks.... sigh
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:45 PM   #18
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Just heard the news, he's allowing the pups to go at 5 weeks.... sigh
What about NOW? Has this female and her pups been put in a place where they have some privacy? And the female will get walked few times a day?

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Old 12-24-2010, 07:12 PM   #19
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Well she's in their bedroom and the kids aren't allowed in there unless their in there. That's the most private its been. And no I don't think she gets walked much they let her out every once in a while to walk about the house though
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:26 PM   #20
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5weeks? Holy God that is letting pups go way too early. Asking for trouble.

I really wish people would just spay and neuter their PETS.
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