[gueremaisse]

heres one.. pucker up..

YouTube - APBT "Hummer" Schutzhund Protection Training Dec 20th 2009
YouTube - Amstaff Hummer LateNight Protection Oct 28th 2008

now that's hilarious lol

[CDCL7WKJ]

I guess there are plenty of game GSDs as well going by the videos. lol.

[broksaksaak]

heres one.. pucker up..

YouTube - APBT "Hummer" Schutzhund Protection Training Dec 20th 2009
YouTube - Amstaff Hummer LateNight Protection Oct 28th 2008

What in fucks sake are you talking about?

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Show me a video of a gotti or razors edge dog making a scratch with two busted front legs and ill say i was wrong.

[gymnAnemoe]

You have absolutely no comprehension as to what the term "game" actually means.

Actually i do. i was just showing the vid to show that some ambullies can work. and how the hell can you tell it doesnt have gameness. not all apbt are game. it depends on dog correct. hummer is lean, conditioned in shape. he can do some real damage if he chose to, hes not a fat hippo type of bullie. to be honest i could care less about gameness. i dont fight my dogs.

[CDCL7WKJ]

But the question was about gameness, not workability.

You have shown that an Ambully can work, but that doesn't prove the Ambully is game, which is what was asked.

No one in the US can really claim whether a dog is game or not, whether it's an APBT or an Ambully, unless they have taken part in an illegal activity. So, if one has not it's best to assume that the dog is not, since, it can't be tested.

[Maserati]

Actually i do. i was just showing the vid to show that some ambullies can work. and how the hell can you tell it doesnt have gameness. not all apbt are game. it depends on dog correct. hummer is lean, conditioned in shape. he can do some real damage if he chose to, hes not a fat hippo type of bullie. to be honest i could care less about gameness. i dont fight my dogs.

Please enlighten us what game means to you?

You can tell it doesn't have game by just hearing the word ambully

[krasniyluch]

Ambullies are a combination of APBT,AB and EB. I believe the founder of the Ambully is David Wilson.

[Maserati]

Ambullies are a combination of APBT,AB and EB. I believe the founder of the Ambully is David Wilson.

Don't forget, dogo, corso, french mastiff, mastiffs.

[Xxedxevh]

okay before this thread gets closed i do have to say this.everyone is saying that an american bully can't do shit and that they haver no game,but the real question is who has tested it.as far as i know an american bully would lose a match with an apbt but who knows?without anyone testing it,plus it's illegal too,there's no way to tell.needless to forget that american bullies comes in diffrent classes.you have the classic,pocket,extreme,and etc.i believe a classic american bully proably does stand a chance compared to the other classes.

[Impariclainna]

Man, where's Rainmaker when you need him?

I think PinkPrincess' Cleo might be able to hold her own in a fight though. But that's about it as far as Ambullies go.

[Maserati]

okay before this thread gets closed i do have to say this.everyone is saying that an american bully can't do shit and that they haver no game,but the real question is who has tested it.as far as i know an american bully would lose a match with an apbt but who knows?without anyone testing it,plus it's illegal too,there's no way to tell.needless to forget that american bullies comes in diffrent classes.you have the classic,pocket,extreme,and etc.i believe a classic american bully proably does stand a chance compared to the other classes.

Working and having game are two completely diffrent kettal of fish yes they do well at weightpull agility and all that, what has that got to do with game

People wake up, game not working, working is not game!!!!!

The only way anyone can label there ambully is game but having tested it in the box. even testing wont show game nessisarily, yeah they may fight, if it wins still doesnt mean its game, its that willingness in the heart, not caring that their facing death, the love it, hours on end with that strong heart ect ect is GAME.

[krasniyluch]

It is safe to say that the Ambully is not game.Gameness is not one of the traits deemed important as far as its breed standard goes.A Presa Canario or Ca De Bou are more likely to be game than anAmbully,in my humble opinion.

[Impariclainna]

People wake up, game is not working, working is not game!!!!!

I like that.

[atmowasia]

Am. Bullies are not nor have they ever been bred for the trait of gameness. They are a mixed breed consisting of some APBT or Am Staff blood along with other breeds mixed in to give them their appearance, size, and attitude. They are bred strictly for looks, size, and more often than not lining the pockets of the one that breeds them. Even your best Am Bully can not compare with a correct game bred animal pound for pound. Which leads me to another point of this conversation....most people associate the quality of gameness with winning, I am not sure why, but it happens more often than most think. Gameness has nothing to do with the act of winning the fight or match (yes they are different), but rather with not wavering in the face of defeat. A game dog very well can be a loser of a match these dogs are not machines as much as we would like to think. Are their any canine combatants that can rival a correct APBT pound for pound? Not a chance in hell. Are there other dogs out there that can, and have defeated APBT's in dog fights? Sure there are, but that isn't the norm, and the only ones that I personally know of were dogs that outweighed the APBT by 100+ lbs were overseas against Tosa dogs which are not game animals, and they were not by cajun rules which is a set of rules that are used for APBT matches to fairly test gameness.

[Xxedxevh]

Working and having game are two completely diffrent kettal of fish yes they do well at weightpull agility and all that, what has that got to do with game

People wake up, game not working, working is not game!!!!!

The only way anyone can label there ambully is game but having tested it in the box. even testing wont show game nessisarily, yeah they may fight, if it wins still doesnt mean its game, its that willingness in the heart, not caring that their facing death, the love it, hours on end with that strong heart ect ect is GAME.

where did i say anything about working?

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Working and having game are two completely diffrent kettal of fish yes they do well at weightpull agility and all that, what has that got to do with game

People wake up, game not working, working is not game!!!!!

The only way anyone can label there ambully is game but having tested it in the box. even testing wont show game nessisarily, yeah they may fight, if it wins still doesnt mean its game, its that willingness in the heart, not caring that their facing death, the love it, hours on end with that strong heart ect ect is GAME.

didnt i not just say that?

[Maserati]

everyone is saying that an american bully can't do shit and that they haver no game Can't do shit, im assuming you mean cant work (what we are all talking about)

[gymnAnemoe]

You have absolutely no comprehension as to what the term "game" actually means.

Please enlighten us what game means to you?

You can tell it doesn't have game by just hearing the word ambully

so no other dog except APBT has gameness? and a true Ambully is a Amstaff x APBT cross. so why cant an Ambully have gameness?

[Xxedxevh]

Can't do shit, im assuming you mean cant work (what we are all talking about)

no someone actually said american bullies cant do shit,which isnt true.

[Maserati]

but the real question is who has tested it.as far as i know an american bully would lose a match with an apbt but who knows?without anyone testing it Whos to say i am not capable of knocking out Fedor Emelianenko

Its just ridiculas, anyone with half a brain will say you have no chance! Hell knock me on your arse and kill me

[Xxedxevh]

so no other dog except APBT has gameness? and a true Ambully is a Amstaff x APBT cross. so why cant an Ambully have gameness?

good point