[AnthonyKing]

i was reading through a post about Ambullies, have they been watered down like the ukc amstaffs? who would win in a match Ambully or APBT? im curious just been researching bloodlines.

[koebforfrn]

There's no question on that one and I'd be surprised if even one person voted for AmBully.

[broksaksaak]

i was reading through a post about Ambullies, have they been watered down like the ukc amstaffs? who would win in a match Ambully or APBT? im curious just been researching bloodlines.

theres a video somewhere between like a 40 pound game dog and a 60+ pound AmBully and i honestly dont think the game dog ever got a tooth in him, he left that little match looking like he left a conformation show.

APBTs are bred to fight, Bullies are bred to be big and blue, show me a truly game AmBully and ill kiss your ass.

[SannyGlow]

Lost it?..that would imply they had it to begin with. Ambullys were bred to go away from the APBT and even the amstaff, they were never game, nor do they want to be game.

[AnthonyKing]

Lost it?..that would imply they had it to begin with. Ambullys were bred to go away from the APBT and even the amstaff, they were never game, nor do they want to be game.

Like i said didnt know but werent Ambullies and amstaffs bred from "original pits" so they must have lost thier gamness through faulty breeding by breeding for looks and size rather than ability?

[gDGwm8BC]

they never had gameness to begin with so why is this discussion even on here? lol

[AnthonyKing]

they never had gameness to begin with so why is this discussion even on here? lol

Just asking! so amstaffs and ambuulies cant work at all or just not to the level of the APBT?

[no02rSx2]

Just asking! so amstaffs and ambuulies cant work at all or just not to the level of the APBT?

I believe Am Bullies CAN work, yes but they do not have the tenacity and drive to compare to a true APBT.

[gueremaisse]

every dog can work if it's body structure permits it to.
but not every dog can or will show gameness

working ability has nothing to do with gameness other than if it can't work, it can't show it because it can't go long enough, but that's where it stops lol

hope you understand what I mean lol

[Impariclainna]

APBTs are bred to fight, Bullies are bred to be big and blue, show me a truly game AmBully and ill kiss your ass.

ROFL.

[AnthonyKing]

Look at that, nobody chose ambully!

[CDCL7WKJ]

As far as I know, no one has ever tested an Ambully. So, one can not claim that they ever had game to lose, or that they are game. Just as most people can't claim their APBT is game. Only one way to know for sure, and in the US, that way is illegal.

Now can they all have drive and tenacity? Yes.

So, for me, the question is unanswerable, though, the answer is most likely that an Ambully would not be game (as that wasn't what it was bred for or anything like that). However, who would win, doesn't determine who is game anyway.

[VZF74G0M]

i was reading through a post about Ambullies, have they been watered down like the ukc amstaffs? who would win in a match Ambully or APBT? im curious just been researching bloodlines.

do more research bro ambullies arnt shit the only thing the can beat a APBT at is head and chest size

[gDGwm8BC]

As far as I know, no one has ever tested an Ambully. So, one can not claim that they ever had game to lose, or that they are game. Just as most people can't claim their APBT is game. Only one way to know for sure, and in the US, that way is illegal.

Now can they all have drive and tenacity? Yes.

So, for me, the question is unanswerable, though, the answer is most likely that an Ambully would not be game (as that wasn't what it was bred for or anything like that). However, who would win, doesn't determine who is game anyway.

im sure more than a few people have fought ambullys, and im sure it prolly looked like something off the africa bully cutta dog video where they just fought for half a second then humped eachother.

[CDCL7WKJ]

Yeah, there are probably some idiots in some back alley throwing their two American Bullies together to fight, but I am talking about an actual game testing situation, not just idiots who have no clue what they are doing. If an actual game testing situation has been done on the American Bully, I doubt it, but you never know.

[Zptmsemk]

There are american bullies and american bullies. In a chance encounter with a more atheletic ambully and a 30lb sporting pit, they might kill the smaller dog. People seem to think just because it is apbt it is somehow invinceable. They were never bred to defeat all comers. They were bred to combat at a similar weight and under strict rules. Just as a boxer would probably get trashed in a street fight, take away the structure and regulation and there are a lot of large dogs which could really hurt them.

[Maserati]

When did they ever have gameness? bullies arent tested! Doesnt mean bullies arent fit to 'work' there just shit in the box, theres some fit lean bullies doing great in weight pull and agility ect.

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they never had gameness to begin with so why is this discussion even on here? lol

good post!!

[CDCL7WKJ]

That's what I was thinking Skippy. That's why I mentioned that whomever won doesn't mean one is game.

If one pit a 120lbs. XL American Bully against a 40lb. APBT, there is a chance the Ambully would win, but it would have nothing to do with gameness. Now if the 40lb. APBT kept fighting no matter how horribly the 120lbs. Ambully kept hurting him, then the APBT that lost would still be the game one, where the winning Ambully hasn't proven any gameness really. Though, I'd hope anyone who truly wanted to test a dogs gameness wouldn't do a match like that, as it would be stupid.

[gymnAnemoe]

theres a video somewhere between like a 40 pound game dog and a 60+ pound AmBully and i honestly dont think the game dog ever got a tooth in him, he left that little match looking like he left a conformation show.

APBTs are bred to fight, Bullies are bred to be big and blue, show me a truly game AmBully and ill kiss your ass.

heres one.. pucker up..

[atmowasia]

heres one.. pucker up..

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You have absolutely no comprehension as to what the term "game" actually means.