[dhrishiasv]

So choco and lilly and i were playing tug. They get along great they even play tug with eachother but i was playing with both of them. One dog on each arm. Anyway i was playing tug with lilly while choco was laying down chewing on his toy and then he bites her hind leg. He always does this in a playful way and wanted her attention so he can play with her. I think he might have scared her because it was kinda sudden. Causing her to snap at him. They got into a fight. And I saw blood and realized choco's ear was bleeding. It honestly is tiny. right on the edge of the ear. What are your thoughts on this? Is her reponse reasonable?

And if you are going to call me "irresponsible" or anything about i dont know my dogs or whatever. Please keep those comments to yourself.

[EjPWyPm4]

Don't play with both of your dogs at the same time anymore. Too much excitement in the air can lead to issues. Problem solved.

And if you haven't invested in a break stick, nows the time to do so.

[Snuddyentaine]

whats the problem? The problem is the owner doesnt need to own the dogs because he DOESN'T know what he is doing!

[Joircarm]

We have a multi-dog home as well. We realized years ago that they don't always play nice, especially when there are toys around.

For that reason, play sessions are one dog only, i.e., one dog is crated, while the other gets a play session with us.

Toys are always put away, so we don't have any issues.

[fgfblog]

Damn, Six-pack thats a little harsh don't you think? Especially since you weren't there to actually see it. A little nip on the ear? that doesn't sound like much of a fight to me. It just sounds like one of those 'get the fuck off of me' moments that dogs will have occasionally. No big deal.

[Snuddyentaine]

yeh? well whats he going to do if one of those get the hell off me moments turns into one of his dogs pops a bleeder and he doesnt know jack on how to fix it,then it hits the news,then another fool goes down for dogfighting when he wasnt even fighting them,he was just being a fool.What people like you dont seem to understand tera-is the fact that most people who own these dogs,should have never owned them in the fisrt place,and many more fools will take the last fools place because someone decided to put these dogs in an incompetent persons hands.

[dhrishiasv]

I wouldn't call it a fight I would call it a scuff. It isn't even a puncture its like a scrap on the edge of his ear.

But they usually play well with toys. They know eachothers boundaries with toys. They play tug together and steal balls outta eachothers mouths. This scuff only happened bc of ur right, over excitement. I was tuggin with lilly and choco wanted to play to so he usually goes for her legs when he wants to play and I guess it scared her bc she wasn't used to that respons while tugging so she reacted and of course choco reacted to her. But after punishing them both lilly is still acting kinda bitter. Choco already greeted her with a waggin tail but she is avoidn him and acting "mad" at him.

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yeh? well whats he going to do if one of those get the hell off me moments turns into one of his dogs pops a bleeder and he doesnt know jack on how to fix it,then it hits the news,then another fool goes down for dogfighting when he wasnt even fighting them,he was just being a fool.What people like you dont seem to understand tera-is the fact that most people who own these dogs,should have never owned them in the fisrt place,and many more fools will take the last fools place because someone decided to put these dogs in an incompetent persons hands.

Who are you to judge? Who are you? I already asked if you are going to say negative things about me, as an owner to not bother posting a reply.

I am plenty responsible and very competent. I am here trying to educate myself so I can better my dog's life for them by learning as much as I can for them. And you want to ridicule me?

Point blank: shit happens.

[JesikaFlpk]

yeh? well whats he going to do if one of those get the hell off me moments turns into one of his dogs pops a bleeder and he doesnt know jack on how to fix it,then it hits the news,then another fool goes down for dogfighting when he wasnt even fighting them,he was just being a fool.What people like you dont seem to understand tera-is the fact that most people who own these dogs,should have never owned them in the fisrt place,and many more fools will take the last fools place because someone decided to put these dogs in an incompetent persons hands.

OKAY you are seriously overreacting here. Rather then be a douch about it how about you offer advice. EVERYONE starts somewhere with this breed and so everyone who is new the breed should be offered educated advice. NOW if they choose not to go by the education they have been offered then you can go rant crazy on them.



OP: dont play with your dogs together even if it was a little scuff, little scuffs turn into big scuffs. Get a breakstick, learn how to use it and i would not recommend playing together, desginate play times with each dog seperatly

[Snuddyentaine]

who am i to judge? Someone who knows that one day we are all going to lose this breed due to the incompetence of fools that let their dogs play together.These dogs dont need to play together,they were designed for dog on dog combat,so that tells you that they can play together and always be nice? Anyone with enough experience in the dogs will tell you that,and if you were trying to get educated on them,you have had alot of time to have read the post's since you have joined to have learned that they dont need to play together.

[attackDoold]

How old are they? Do you know about DA and all that jazz? Cause its real and it might have just been triggered.

[Joircarm]

Robert - they may play nicely with each other at the moment, but that can change (been there, done that).

I have seen play behavior change to combat in the blink of an eye here, so we have learned to have separate play sessions.

[Snuddyentaine]

Obviously you guys are not aware of his track record with these dogs or never read his posts. here ya go,a lil history of Robert-

i made the biggest mistake ever - Training Behavior

stubborn pit bulls...what to do - General Dog Discussions

and the best one i have seen yet that he has put up on here

How often do your dogs get into fights? - Training Behavior

People have told him time and time again,does he listen?NO.Now who am i to judge?
Im the smart guy who listened to what people told me,the smart guy who read up and learned what he could before getting into these dogs.I wasnt the moron who wouldnt listen to what others were telling me,tht constantly had his dogs fighting because he wouldnt listen.And i would never take up for an idiot who wouldnt listen,so yeh,im going to be harsh when someone is told time and time again what they need to do,yet the still insist on being ignorant to what needs to be done.

[fgfblog]

yeh? well whats he going to do if one of those get the hell off me moments turns into one of his dogs pops a bleeder and he doesnt know jack on how to fix it,then it hits the news,then another fool goes down for dogfighting when he wasnt even fighting them,he was just being a fool.What people like you dont seem to understand tera-is the fact that most people who own these dogs,should have never owned them in the fisrt place,and many more fools will take the last fools place because someone decided to put these dogs in an incompetent persons hands.

You make some very good points six pack but I still think you're overreacting just a bit. And yes, unfortunately there are way to many people out there that should not own pit bull terriers but they are always gonna be there. There's no point in bitchin' about it when the best thing you can do is offer positive advice instead. SOME people will listen. You seem to be a person with some good dog smarts. Stop cappin' on people and share it. Also, I'm really getting sick to death of hearing people say we are going to lose this breed. Thats just BULLSHIT! It'll never happen.

[IteseFrusty]

OK.. time out.

Given the previous posts 6pack has listed, in which Robert has gotten a good amount of info.. I can understand some frustration. But let's not go nuts. It never helps the cause (getting somebody to listen and learn).

Robert... I would highly recommend reading up on the info blogs on this site to learn in hurry what you are going to be into very soon, if you don't start re-evaluating and re-organizing the way your dogs interact.
The bottom line is: the more they get into scuffles, the more intense they will get. It will happen more and more frequently and you will come to a point where your dogs can't be managed together AT ALL anymore. Do not give food to them when they are together, don't give them toys when they are together and don't favor one over the other when they are together. Take resource guarding out of the picture and decrease arousal while the dogs interact with each other.

[fgfblog]

Obviously you guys are not aware of his track record with these dogs or never read his posts. here ya go,a lil history of Robert-

i made the biggest mistake ever - Training Behavior

stubborn pit bulls...what to do - General Dog Discussions

and the best one i have seen yet that he has put up on here

How often do your dogs get into fights? - Training Behavior

People have told him time and time again,does he listen?NO.Now who am i to judge?
Im the smart guy who listened to what people told me,the smart guy who read up and learned what he could before getting into these dogs.I wasnt the moron who wouldnt listen to what others were telling me,tht constantly had his dogs fighting because he wouldnt listen.And i would never take up for an idiot who wouldnt listen,so yeh,im going to be harsh when someone is told time and time again what they need to do,yet the still insist on being ignorant to what needs to be done.

Robert, if this is all true then maybe you do need to reevaluate how you are doing thigs and make a few changes.

[bpejjssoe]

What the situation really is is that you didn't heed the advice that was given to you on your earlier posts.

[aNoBVsUW]

First lesson in owning an APBT...NEVER TRUST THEM NOT TO FIGHT!!!

with that said....NEVER TRUST THEM TO PLAY TOGETHER IF THEY HAVE HAD A SCRUFF...

Things can go form an awesome play time to dead dog in a matter of mins. A lot of times once two have had a scruff they will never get a long again. Looks as though you have been given some great info in all your post you have posted up...

This is just my opinion that I have drawn from reading all those threads....Get a poodle

[Stoniaanapy]

Thank you for Re-posting those threads 6pack, seems people are coming to the defense of Robert after he has been told several times how to better handle his dogs and yet he fails to listen.

I suggest yet again....re-home one or both of these friggin dogs. This information has already been covered in the links posted above and yet you still ignore the advise and you still have issues. Whats it going to take to have the information sink in, a dead dog ?

Sorry if you do not like the advise but that is whats best, you have gotten in way over your head and for the safety of your animals it is best that they find themselves living elsewhere.

[dubballey]

Separate the damn dogs. I think that's been suggested in every thread that the OP's posted and it simply falls on deaf ears.

[CaseyFan]

Robert, to make your homework easier for you these are the parts of the site that you obviously need to go over again asuming you have gone over them before make yourself familiar with them , because honestly if you cant make it work or understand the situation you are putting your dogs and yourself in you need to get rid of at least one of your dogs.

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=13984

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=61486

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=2779

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=3113

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=605

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=63501

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=63503

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=63504

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=13846

these threads which beleive it or not are very easy to find on here , are the absolute minimum you should have read before owning one pitbull, let alone a household with two. Please take the time in reading them and trying to understand that if you dont take serious notice you are going to end up in big trouble. Not taking notice of these is fitting into what most of us would say is pure negligence on your behalf and i hope you can turn it around and proove us wrong.